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OSHA who?
« on: November 25, 2021, 05:13:32 PM »
I came across this video of a back alley foundry in Pakistan that makes cylinder sleeves for diesel engine blocks.  I'd love to show this to an OSHA inspector and see the response.  No safety glasses, no hearing protection, no thermal protective gear during the pour, not even any steel toed sandals, but they get the job did...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve6-y5G-x-Y
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Re: OSHA who?
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2021, 05:26:09 PM »
Well, at least the one guy at the top of the foundry had gloves on while poking at the scrap being smelted, and it looked to me like he either had ear plugs in or maybe it was an ear bud.

I like Mike Rowe's take on safety - "Safety third!" Meaning if you leave your own safety up to somebody else, you're going to get complacent and get hurt.

I wonder if those guys get burned or hurt. If they do, there's always somebody else willing to take that job.  :p
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Re: OSHA who?
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2021, 09:38:49 AM »
a few more videos about those industrious Pakis making useful stuff with very basic hand tools and almost zero safety equipment.  I admire their skill and craftsmanship...

Making a muffler for a diesel truck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4eYzriSTr0

making the chain sprocket for a motorcycle wheel
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Re: OSHA who?
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2021, 11:45:01 AM »
Gotta love the differential used as a right angle driver on the casting compound mixer.  :lmao:
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Re: OSHA who?
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2021, 11:49:25 AM »
Quote from: Wineslob on December 01, 2021, 11:45:01 AM
Gotta love the differential used as a right angle driver on the casting compound mixer.  :lmao:
Yeah,  I noticed that too.  Why reinvent the wheel when you can find a discarded rear axle to automate your factory
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Re: OSHA who?
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2021, 11:59:13 AM »
Wow - a couple of thoughts:
  • I get the impression that some of the steel taken from shipbreaking operations is used for the sprocket fabrication process.
  • Concentration is absolute - failure of which will certainly result in injury. And this is the crux of the matter. The Pakis rely on the individual to think of safety - it's not up to the employer to put in systems and protections that actually ENCOURAGE complacency. These guys do what they have to do to keep from losing an eye or a limb or something else relatively vital.
  • The guy toward the end of the process that shields his eyes from the spinning lathe to avoid the inevitable metal shavings. He does that because he wants to see what he's doing tomorrow.
  • Kids doing what they're doing at the low end of the process. Part of paying dues. They'll survive -- or not.
  • No evidence of equipment or tooling maintenance. It probably happens, but it's low priority so it's off-camera.  :thatsright:
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Re: OSHA who?
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2021, 08:29:51 PM »
Quote from: Eupher on December 01, 2021, 11:59:13 AM
Wow - a couple of thoughts:
  • I get the impression that some of the steel taken from shipbreaking operations is used for the sprocket fabrication process.
  • Concentration is absolute - failure of which will certainly result in injury. And this is the crux of the matter. The Pakis rely on the individual to think of safety - it's not up to the employer to put in systems and protections that actually ENCOURAGE complacency. These guys do what they have to do to keep from losing an eye or a limb or something else relatively vital.
  • The guy toward the end of the process that shields his eyes from the spinning lathe to avoid the inevitable metal shavings. He does that because he wants to see what he's doing tomorrow.
  • Kids doing what they're doing at the low end of the process. Part of paying dues. They'll survive -- or not.
  • No evidence of equipment or tooling maintenance. It probably happens, but it's low priority so it's off-camera.  :thatsright:

I think you are correct about the steel coming from ship breaking operations.  I remember watching a video a few years back about ship breaking and it showed them feeding long narrow strips of ship plates into a roller extruder that turned the scrap steel into rebar

I think maintenance on the machines happens when it stops production and needs to happen.

Today we are casting and machining the front wheel hubs of a rickshaw.  Looks like they are using scrap metal from a previous stamping operation for their source of molten metal for casting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs76hBQdcCY
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Re: OSHA who?
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2021, 09:26:32 PM »
New video of a Paki foundry making rear axle housings for tractors.  They are quite skilled at pattern making but the barefoot guys in the foundry make me nervous.

They use an interesting recipe of scrap metal to get the casting formula just right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJO8UxUb4b0

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Re: OSHA who?
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2021, 06:12:26 AM »
Quote from: DLR Pyro on December 11, 2021, 09:26:32 PM
New video of a Paki foundry making rear axle housings for tractors.  They are quite skilled at pattern making but the barefoot guys in the foundry make me nervous.

They use an interesting recipe of scrap metal to get the casting formula just right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJO8UxUb4b0

Some of the video is sped up, but those guys still are working their butts off. I wonder how long each day they work, for what kind of wage, and how many days per week. Something tells me they don't make much.
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« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2021, 06:49:56 PM »
Quote from: Eupher on December 12, 2021, 06:12:26 AM
Some of the video is sped up, but those guys still are working their butts off. I wonder how long each day they work, for what kind of wage, and how many days per week. Something tells me they don't make much.
no doubt they are busting ass for little money.  There are lots more guys to replace them if they aren't happy there. 

It was interesting the number of rough castings they had finished in the footage near the end of the video.  They loaded them onto a tuk tuk and I assume will take them to another shop to do the machining of the castings. 
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Re: OSHA who?
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2021, 07:24:46 PM »
I watched this one today where a primative machine shop is producing hydraulic cylinders.  Given the rough shape of the shop and crude measuring devices (they are using calipers rather than micrometers) they seem to produce a pretty good cylinder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCueeeh5foI&t=15

to contrast that video, I watch a channel (ABOM79) that is  produced a master machinist who does alot of work work with hydraulic components.  He is very precise and his shop is on my dream list of what I want when I win the lottery. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTfqBpUT7IE
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Re: OSHA who?
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2021, 08:04:39 AM »
Marking to watch later.

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« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2022, 08:02:02 PM »
Today those industrious Pakis are taking a large salvaged industrial radiator and turning it into a bunch of small radiators for cars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-otgjYZH1o&t=1835
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Re: OSHA who?
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2022, 10:41:49 AM »
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I watched this one today where a primative machine shop is producing hydraulic cylinders.  Given the rough shape of the shop and crude measuring devices (they are using calipers rather than micrometers) they seem to produce a pretty good cylinder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCueeeh5foI&t=15

One thing I noticed, no oil anywhere. I'm surprised the lathe(s) works.
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Re: OSHA who?
« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2022, 05:13:06 AM »
Quote from: DLR Pyro on March 03, 2022, 10:18:27 PM
Making hex nuts.

https://youtu.be/xKlAl8T7iMc

Gawd, all those unguarded spinning flywheels, noise, potential cuts from sharp edges, unguarded points of operation, flying steel at the drilling process, no eye protection, gloves...
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