DUmmies grasp at straws concerning uselessness of the vaccines

[BannedFromDU]

Star Member FirstLight (12,503 posts)

Ok, So I know we have low vax numbers, but why are vaxxed ppl getting sick?

I;m really having a hard time wrapping my head around all these breakthrough cases. Sure, they dont end up dead or on a vent, but still?

Going in for my check-up in oerson for the first time since all this started. I've got an autoimmune thing and take suppressants... so I know Im up for a booster by now. Going to ask the Dr to do some tests though before & after... antibodies.
I wanna know if my system is even producing them. SO hopefully they can do a test before and after booster to show me if it's working...

But really, I apologize for not being more up to speed and will read any links you guys throw at me. I dont have cable TV so Im not listening to the MSM all the time, Im sure I'm missing information.

If delta is more contagious and deadly, is the rate of transmission also related to asymptomatic carriers?
I'm just not getting something here... are the unvaxxed and unmasked really just continuing to give this thing a slow roll? what's the next variant?

The answer, of course, is that the vaccines do not work. But DU is a squalid houseboat drifting down de Nile...

mucifer (20,304 posts)
2. When we were told about the effectiveness of the vax early on we were told

that the vaccine is 95% effective in fighting SEVERE disease So LOTS of people are in that 5%. Lots more get mild disease.

Just because we want it to be 100% doesn't mean it is. It is way better than the flu vaccine.

Plus, now people vaxxed early on are having the vaccine wear off and boosters are helping.

So why get it in the first place if you admit it doesn't work?

Star Member PoindexterOglethorpe (20,971 posts)
26. Some vaccines actually do prevent the disease.

Smallpox, the MMR one, various others.

From the very beginning we were told this vaccine wouldn't necessarily prevent the disease, but should do a good job of preventing a serious manifestation, and most deaths. All of them have performed exactly as advertized.

Not to mention it is still mostly older people or those with certain conditions, like obesity, who are more likely, vaccinated or not, to get seriously ill and/or die. Yes, some younger people, including children, have died, but they really are a tiny minority.

This guy is grapplin' for a slappin' by MIRT. This proves that COVID is pretty much a bad cold unless you are old or infirm. If you are those things, be careful and/or stay home.


Idiots.

[franksolich]

That is my question too.

Why are some vaccinated people getting the China virus while some unvaccinated people aren't?

I suspect it's because, really, the vaccines don't work.

So they don't give any protection to people who get the shot.

And as for those who don't get the shot but remain unhindered by the China virus, they just happen to have a natural immunity.

[DUmpDiver]

There's no such thing as a "breakthrough." The Kung Flu isn't breaking through anything.  It's a phrase used by the CDC and FDA to mask and obfuscate vaccine failures.

[DUmpDiver]

That is my question too.

Why are some vaccinated people getting the China virus while some unvaccinated people aren't?

I suspect it's because, really, the vaccines don't work.

So they don't give any protection to people who get the shot.

And as for those who don't get the shot but remain unhindered by the China virus, they just happen to have a natural immunity.

Natural immunity used to be science.  Now it's a conspiracy theory.

[landofconfusion80]

What's interesting is seeing the old vaccine advertising that is now hidden in the storage rooms at walgreens.  " this is our shot at getting together again." How soon people forger what they were promised

[DLR Pyro]

What's interesting is seeing the old vaccine advertising that is now hidden in the storage rooms at walgreens.  " this is our shot at getting together again." How soon people forger what they were promised

Kind of like " we just need to shut down for a few weeks to flatten the curve"...

[Muddling 2]

Kind of like " we just need to shut down for a few weeks to flatten the curve"...

The hardest part of "15 days to flatten the curve" is the first 18 months.

[Ralph Wiggum]

This entire time, the Chinese Wuhan virus is really little more than a harsher strain of flu.  An average of 200k die of the seasonal flu, yet we never hear about that, nor do we completely panic every winter.

[BannedFromDU]

This entire time, the Chinese Wuhan virus is really little more than a harsher strain of flu.  An average of 200k die of the seasonal flu, yet we never hear about that, nor do we completely panic every winter.

This point cannot be stressed enough. We should have stood down in Q3 2020 when we saw who was at risk and who wasn't.

[DLR Pyro]

This entire time, the Chinese Wuhan virus is really little more than a harsher strain of flu.  An average of 200k die of the seasonal flu, yet we never hear about that, nor do we completely panic every winter.

that was in the past.  Now that the democrat party knows how to weaponize a virus for their political gain, I foresee alot more panic coming from any number of seasonal virus' that in the past were shrugged off as normal.

[Drafe Hoblin]

The vaccines only attack the novel protein-spike at the end of the tentacle.  The virus seems to continue getting protein by some other source to sustain itself.  Natural antibodies attack the entire cell.

[DLR Pyro]

maybe we should get word out to the DUmmies that the virus will never be eradicated and mankind's only hope is a giant Jim Jones style Kool-Aid party to deny the virus any hosts to thrive on.

[FlaGator]

I wonder about all this mandate stuff and the case they make for it. If you are vaccinated and safe then why do you care if I'm vaccinated? If you are vaccinated and can still catch it then the vaccine isn't working so why should get I get vaccinated.

[DLR Pyro]

I wonder about all this mandate stuff and the case they make for it. If you are vaccinated and safe then why do you care if I'm vaccinated? If you are vaccinated and can still catch it then the vaccine isn't working so why should get I get vaccinated.

it's all about controlling us

[DUmpDiver]

I wonder about all this mandate stuff and the case they make for it. If you are vaccinated and safe then why do you care if I'm vaccinated? If you are vaccinated and can still catch it then the vaccine isn't working so why should get I get vaccinated.

Not only can the vac'd contract the Kung Flu but they can also SPREAD IT.

[Ferrance]

Not only can the vac'd contract the Kung Flu but they can also SPREAD IT.

Exactly. Here's an excerpt from an article in The Lancet (hardly a bastion of right wing thinking) published 10/29.

Vaccination reduces the risk of delta variant infection and accelerates viral clearance. Nonetheless, fully vaccinated individuals with breakthrough infections have peak viral load similar to unvaccinated cases and can efficiently transmit infection in household settings, including to fully vaccinated contacts. Host–virus interactions early in infection may shape the entire viral trajectory.

So the only thing the "vaccines" do is help you with possible hospitalization and death. That's it. Covid is at the endemic stage so everyone (DUmmies included) should accept it as a fact of life and move on.

[Ralph Wiggum]

Covid is at the endemic stage so everyone (DUmmies included) should accept it as a fact of life and move on.

That's pretty much how I regarded the Wuhan Virus all along.  Came in close contact with at least a dozen people last year, was tested 3 times and was still negative.  It is little more than a stronger strain of the common flu.

[landofconfusion80]

Just like anything else made in China, relatively ineffective and didn't last as long as intended