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Star Member kentuck (102,541 posts)https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215697911In my opinion, Nina Turner wanted the rewards of the Democratic Party but.......did not want to support anything about the Democratic Party. She seemed to be critical of everything the Party stood for or tried to accomplish. Her style of politics never appealed to me.She seemed farther to the left than Bernie Sanders, which is about as far left as the Democratic Party will go at this time. In my opinion, the Party at this time is more center-left than far-left.Her associations with the Bernie campaign helped her immensely but, in the end, she was not "Democratic" enough to win the election.Just my opinion.
Star Member Demsrule86 (53,861 posts) 22. I don't think Nina Turner will be back as an elected official. And I believe a new coalition isforming...we have been forced as a party to move a bit to the right to pick up moderate voters and win without those who are to the left. And that is a daman shame.
Star Member NurseJackie (39,640 posts) 28. Those on the far left fringes like ("People's Party founder) Nina Turner, Stein, Sarandon, etcThose on the far left fringes like ("People's Party founder) Nina Turner, Stein, Sarandon, etc are unable to think with such clarity or foresight. They are so convinced in their purity and infallibility that they fail to think strategically. They fail to acknowledge reality. Petty people like Sarandon (et al) believe that revenge and destruction is better than progress. It's all driven by ego and vanity. Bitterness and sour grapes.Yes, it is a shame.
Star Member panader0 (22,866 posts) 2. I saw a brief clip of her "non concession" speech this morning."I did not lose this election. Evil money came in here and stole this." (Not an exact quote)She sounded like TFG. I cannot understand what Sanders and AOC saw in this candidate.Okay, she's says she's progressive, but she's mean spirited and doesn't seem nice whatsoever.I'm glad Shontel won.
nycbos (4,351 posts) 9. Sanders isn't a Dem.
Star Member hlthe2b (86,984 posts) 14. She wanted to come to DC to be a MTG-like bomb thrower. No doubt in my mind.And not for any objective other than to advance HERSELF. She'll undoubtedly try again, especially given her so-called "concession" speech was full of Trump-like excuses, accusing mainstream Democrats of corrupt funding of her opponent before an aide apparently drug her away from the microphone
Sympthsical (1,618 posts) 15. She's a bomb thrower and little elseNot even Reddit likes her, which should say something.That was not my circus, but it was entertaining as hell. Now we can go back to our regularly scheduled AOC criticism. That's already started.However, it's interesting. Clinton won that district in her primary 2-1. Fudge won the primary there with 90%. For Turner to bring things to a 5-6% gap even with the full power of the Democratic establishment coming after her and the fact most people don't even really like her is worth an eyebrow raise or two.I think any progressive who was not Nina Turner could've had a realistic chance there. She burned all of the bridges over the past five years. Hell, I don't even like her. I just think the collective meltdown over her was amusing. She probably wouldn't have been very productive in Congress.That said, voters under 45 are overwhelmingly progressive. They went for Sanders 2-1 in the 2020 primaries. This attempt to push progressives out of the party by certain quarters is very ill-advised. It is not thinking of the future of the party. Alienating them is very short-sighted. Hating Turner is understandable, but some parties went far beyond that. The AOC stuff illustrates it.My opinion, and it has been for awhile now, is that time is the only thing that's going to sort this out. Millennials are entering their 40s. 2024 is going to be the last hurrah for the current guard, and then whoever the successors to Sanders are will start making dents. In 10 years, it won't be a problem anymore. The party's going to shift left.Just probably without Nina. She's not super helpful.
Star Member hlthe2b (86,984 posts) 16. AOC and Bernie are not out to burn the Democratic Party down. Big damned difference.And, no, I think that when a relative political unknown can move the vote 35 points in such a short time against Turner, who had (unfortunately) tremendous inexplicable backing from a lot of respected Dems--not just AOC--is what should be remembered. The road to more so-called progressive legislating is not paved with ugly, "Trump-like" tactics, nor those who clearly want nothing more than a scorched earth strategy, "innocent bystanders be damned..."If I find something to criticize in Bernie or AOC or other far left, it isn't without respect for them in general. But if they keep backing candidates like Turner, I think there will be a lot just like me who may have a change of heart.
Evergreen Emerald (12,801 posts) 18. I believe she and Jill are part of the coupThe Republicans (except a rare few) are in the midst of a coup to take power and overturn our Democracy. They did not succeed after Trump lost, jumped too quickly. But they are not done. I wish we would take it more seriously, and act with the urgency the situation requires.I also believe that Jill and Nina are part of it and attempting to infiltrate the Democratic party and the liberal base. You think I am a conspiracy nut? Follow the money...and the connections.
Star Member Hortensis (46,726 posts) 29. She SAID publicly that she was running as a Democrat to infiltrate theonly game in town and take it over. That's after her faction's attempt to create a viable third party to attack and try to splinter away support from outside failed. As expected.My guess is Republican strategists prefer infiltration of infighters that'd undermine the ability of the Democratic Party to stop them, anyway. Confusion on the left about who's really who is critical to their success.Speaking of, BIG thank you to OH-11 and Congresswoman-elect Shontel Brown, and congratulations to America.