I'm getting a sinking feeling about these shootings

[dutch508]

senseandsensibility (13,411 posts)
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I'm getting a sinking feeling about these shootings
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I grew up on the West coast during the seventies. Serial killers ran rampant here then. There were so many that it was impossible to keep them straight. The Green River Killer, the Zodiac Killer, and Ted Bundy are just the most famous, but there were many others. What did the cases have in common? White males who killed women. Sometimes, the victims were prostitutes.

What I remember is the victims were always an after thought. First, they were women. Then they may not have been the right type of woman. But the killers were "charming", "intelligent" or 'troubled." It always seemed important to the media or the public to "understand" them.

We're already seeing this dynamic play out with this new case. And since the shooter says that the victims "tempted" him and he is a white male, this will be treated seriously as an extenuating circumstance. In addition, they were Asian. So all the more reason for the usual suspects to dehumanize the victims.

 

Star Member niyad (76,088 posts)

2. Sadly, I fear you are quite correct. He was "tempted" at three different establishments? Must have really wanted to be tempted!

tulipsandroses (2,937 posts)

3. Yup. This is why I posted earlier among other reasons why that press conference pissed me off

After being peppered with questions from the reporters about the women, Mayor Bottoms responded " We are not going victim shame or victim blame"

I am going to go out on a limb and say that if he has a sex addiction, then he probably spent a lot of time watching pornography as well.
Did you go after your internet provider? How about Google Without them, you can't watch porn.

Why is the target of your wrath women, and although he said it was not racially motivated, I am not buying it.

It's because EVERYTHING FOR YOU LUNATICS IS RACIALLY BASED...

Star Member wnylib (5,599 posts)

9. I'm not buying the claim either, that it's not racial.

There are some racist men who find women of other races "exotic" or "alluring." It's connected to a belief that sex is part of a baser nature, so a woman from a so-called "inferior" background becomes especially desireable. This attitude is very well depicted in the film, Schindler's List, in the behavior of the concentration camp commander, Amon toward the Jewish woman, Helen, whom he keeps as a house servant and sex slave. He has conflicting lust-hate feelings toward her and blames it on her being Jewish.

 

Star Member Warpy (99,619 posts)

8. Most men who view women with dread and loathing don't do anything about it except send out vibes that chase all sensible women away--fast.

They tend to live their lives seething with rage and seeking out the company of men in manly pursuits. If they do manage to con some sweet and simple minded young thing into bed, it won't last long since they'll despise her for it from the very beginning. Women are never human beings to them.

They're out there and we all know it and most of us avoid them.

Once in a while, one will buy a gun and start killing us. We're just lucky it's rarer than their overall numbers suggest.

Oh, and I don't buy his defense. Killing women because they are women is not a hate crime. He's trying to duck the killing Asian woman only aspect, like adding hate crime to 8 cold blooded murders will increase his sentence.

bucolic_frolic (23,447 posts)

11. In my view forensic psychology receives far too little scrutiny in major crime coverage and outcomes

It's as if society keeps the mental experts, the PhD. criminologist consultants, under wraps.

But once you tick off borderline, sociopath or antisocial personality disorder, and run down the symptoms, it's pretty clear. They don't obey authority, they hate society, they don't respect the ordinary boundaries of other people.

America needs a deep dive into this stuff and a cease and desist to tabloid criminology pitched to dolts.

johnthewoodworker (348 posts)

12. The religious, Republican/Nazi, and white will lie about every crime they commit. Kill Asian women,

and deny it's hate. You have to be a real moron to believe that.

 

Star Member whathehell (25,572 posts)

24. "The religious" and 'Republican/Nazis" and "white"?..Huh?

It appears you are conflating "the religious" with "Republicans and Nazis" and then both groups with the "white" race, generally..I'm hoping this was the result of failing to write in clear and complete sentences, rather than bigoted intent, but you might want to confirm

Star Member Corgigal (8,183 posts)

26. Since when does the police

trust a word a criminal says? Is this a new thing? You might listen to them, but you don’t repeat their BS, you investigate.

So, my theory is that the Capt from the Cherokee Sheriff office understands that horrible sex drive of a youthful man, who was too lazy to compete in the biological game of matchmaking.
The Capt needs to leave law enforcement.

 

Star Member malaise (226,202 posts)

29. Great OP

Rec

 

Star Member I_UndergroundPanther (5,024 posts)

33. We need a way to identify Track and if nessesary remove sociopaths and abusive narcissists from society permanently.

They live to harm others and cannot be trusted with freedom ,sadly.

My dream situation is sociopaths and narcissists could be detected early or before birth so they could get into treatment or if nessesary,sequestered
and thier harmful traits made harmless before they kill or abuse others. If it's a brain issue that it could be fixed with meds or surgery and they grow up like people born with empathy.

 

They should have aborted them at birth, you think? [saysironypostwithoutcrackingsmile]

Star Member dlk (7,966 posts)

38. The white male patriarchy discounts and minimizes women, especially women of color

When multiple women are pathologically hunted and executed, the news media too often paints a sympathetic picture of the perpetrator and glosses over the victims, as though they barely even matter. We have far to go for women’s equality as humans.

Star Member JCMach1 (25,979 posts)

40. The patriarcal, white, male, RW, religious misogyny connection will get completely

Pushed aside for either racism, or the sex addiction culture war narrative depending on where the media falls on the ideology spectrum.

 

[dutch508]

FBI Director Christopher Wray told NPR Tuesday’s Atlanta-area shootings that killed eight people — six of whom were Asian-American — do not seem to be linked to race

https://www.weaselzippers.us/466272-fbi-director-says-atlanta-rub-tug-murders-do-not-seem-racially-motivated/

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tulipsandroses (2,937 posts)

3. Yup. This is why I posted earlier among other reasons why that press conference pissed me off

After being peppered with questions from the reporters about the women, Mayor Bottoms responded " We are not going victim shame or victim blame"

I am going to go out on a limb and say that if he has a sex addiction, then he probably spent a lot of time watching pornography as well.
Did you go after your internet provider? How about Google Without them, you can't watch porn.

Why is the target of your wrath women, and although he said it was not racially motivated, I am not buying it.     

Sorry, the bolded comment just shows how clueless some (many) folks are about how things they use frequently actually work, which brings to questions their grasp on other, higher level though processes.

[BamaMoose]

Interesting that this shooting on Saturday has got minimal media coverage:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/17/us/indianapolis-shooting-stimulus-check-dispute/index.html

4 dead with a fifth left for dead, but it appears not to be terribly newsworthy.  One murder victim was 7 years old.  I wonder if the fact that the shooter is black affects whether these "Black Lives Matter" to the media.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

FBI Director Christopher Wray told NPR Tuesday’s Atlanta-area shootings that killed eight people — six of whom were Asian-American — do not seem to be linked to race

https://www.weaselzippers.us/466272-fbi-director-says-atlanta-rub-tug-murders-do-not-seem-racially-motivated/

Some ****-knuckle at work said, "The shooter says he wasn't racially motivated, but can we really be sure?"

Me: "If he said he was racially motivated, would you still be second-guessing him?"

[USA4ME]

Most of these killer men start out fondling and sniffing young girls hair.

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[SVPete]

1. Two at least were places whose women he'd "patronized". The third was across the street from one of those. IOW, they were chosen based on past "patronage" rather than the ethnicity of the women.

2. Two of the ones killed were "whites", one a woman "customer", so the particular people he killed were targets of opportunity, not targeted for their ethnicity.

3. If DUpipo give a @#$% about Asians other than as political props, where were their protests when Biden backed out of the Yale discrimination lawsuit?

[Wineslob]

The DUmp, "experts" at nothing.

[SVPete]

The DUmp, "experts" at nothing.

Conservative: Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

DUpipo: Where's that accommodating female intern?