Anyone else skeptical about the Gov. Cuomo accusations?

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Star Member brush (33,972 posts)
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Anyone else skeptical about the Gov. Cuomo accusations?

Is he up for re-election soon or something? First the long-term care home deaths allegedly low-balled/not reported (but actually reported as hospital deaths when covid patients were moved to hospital), and now the two sexual harrassment accusations.

Sounds like a pattern, similar to the Al Franken, Katie Hill and Joe Biden take-down campaigns. Two worked and one didn't but it seems to be part of the playbook against targeted Democratic politicians, which is why I asked when is Gov. Cuomo up for re-election? It's not as if there's a republican who's going to win the governorship of New York if he's taken down? And the presidential election, for which he looked very attractive for a while, is long over.

What is this all about?

 

Star Member leftyladyfrommo (14,376 posts)

2. I don't think it was sexual assault. It was sexual harassment.

The first one basically claimed that he gave her a bad time.

I am not sure about the second one.

But he has called for an outside review.

It does sound like a typical Republican move.

It wasn't RAPE rape...

Star Member hlthe2b (84,145 posts)

3. I don't know, honestly and I do think there is quite a bit. He's not up for reelection until 2022

It does, however, feel like a real "pile-on," so I am not going to render an opinion until some verified facts (rather than conveniently timed allegations) are made public. DOJ is looking at the nursing home issue. The sexual harassment allegations (or at least one) does seem to have been challenged by other staffers, so?

Best to remain concerned but with an open mind right now, IMO... I don't deny he has a pattern of being an asshole, but that covers a lot of politicians and isn't generally criminal.

except if he's a [R]....

theneworiginal (264 posts)

66. The thing that makes me go hmmmm...

is that Trump did not jump on him about it. He remained conspicuously distant.

Normally, I am quick to guess that most women who come out with these kinds of stories are real victims, with some exceptions, of course. But I am reserving judgment on this one. Requesting an inquiry reflects well on the Gov.

What appears obvious to me in the recent stories about AC is that he is not easy to work with. He has a lot of conflicts which I guess is inevitable in a complicated state like NY, but people don't see him as warm and fuzzy. There's a big jump from being tough on people and threatening to ruin them, however, but he does not seemed well-liked by colleagues.

Not sure what to make of all this.

PoliticAverse (22,610 posts)

6. "What is this all about?" - A man who repeatedly behaves badly. n/t

 

Star Member brush (33,972 posts)

20. So you don't suspect any republican skullduggery?

Despite the pattern we've seen before?

Star Member brush (33,972 posts)

27. Possibly, but you seem to be forgetting, maybe ignoring, that Cuomo made trump's...

daily covid news updates look like the inept, clown show they were compared to his competently handled ones. Plus Cuome is the governor of a state that is investigating trump criminally and civilly and has recently received even more receipts (trump's tax returns).

The timing by itself, coinciding with the trump investigations going on in NY, not to mention the similarity of it to the Franken-Hill-Biden take down pattern, must at least raise an eyebrow.

This smells hugely of free-ranging Roger Stone, saved from jail by trump.

Star Member Hortensis (43,963 posts)

8. We're coming up to another hugely important election -- the 2022 midterms.

That's what's happening. Has to be. The stakes for America are enormous.

The senate is 50:50. McConnell and company intend to take it back.

We now have a bare majority in the house. They intend to take it back.

And we should assume they'd then do their best to keep power permanently by finishing what they've started.

So, the RW character assassination machine's going after the Democratic Party. Of course.

They're already working to obscure the good we do behind a blizzard of lies, sleazy accusations and insinuations, a barrage of politically motivated phony legal actions, social media carpet bombing to sow confusion, destroy belief and poison with disaffection. They'll trigger and augment anti-Democratic left hostilities and welcome foreign warfare against us.

Including hillarying Cuomo and other big Democratic names with "the insinuation is the crime." When managed by their expert character assassins, accusations that can't be proven or disproven can be not just every bit as damaging as those that can but often far more.

Buckle up. Helmets would be good.

Star Member kentuck (100,928 posts)

9. The timing is coincidental, I am sure.

Just when the investigation of Donald J Trump begins in earnest.

Star Member Demsrule86 (52,140 posts)

40. I honestly don't care. I won't allow the GOP to destroy another Democratic leader.

I don't know what this person is thinking or if it really happened ...but I will support Cuomo. And not allow the Trump forces to win in New York or California.

 

Star Member PTWB (2,662 posts)

43. You don't care?

You will support Cuomo? Regardless of the facts?

I support an independent investigation. If the accusations are found to be credible I will support the survivors.

Star Member Demsrule86 (52,140 posts)

70. Yes I will. I consider it BS. I am sick of these accusations that bring down powerful Democrats without any sort of proof. Had Northam and Fairfax fallen for it, we would have lost Virginia. The GOP is using this sort of thing to attack our people. Also, Cuomo has been attacked before by Democrats...who consider him too middle of the road. I support Cuomo and I will continue to do so.

I survived sexual assault...and I hate hate women who use such things politically. It is disgraceful and is why many truly evil men will not be brought to justice as it causes women not to be believed when they should be believed.

 

Star Member Demsrule86 (52,140 posts)

72. Endless investigation weakens Democrats. The so called charges do not rise to a level of

investigation. It will end up going nowhere and weaken a strong Democrat. I could see looking into the nursing home thing but I feel the way Trump handled it caused there to be few options for governors...but that would be legit...the rest of it is pure unsubstantiated BS if you ask me.

Star Member pwb (6,738 posts)

16. It is a puke hit job, because Cuomo can speak in full sentences.

And he gets things done.

malaise (225,373 posts)

17. Let me put it this way

ReTHUGs tried to overthrow the Biden win and they are asking me to pay attention to another Al Franken like bullshit argument.
Focus on locking up the terrorist in chief and his goons.

Everything about this smells of Trump.

**** this shit. ReTHUGs are going after New York and California. Wake the **** up!

Star Member Demsrule86 (52,140 posts)

69. Nonsense...in my opinion. We have lost great Democrats because of this. And it needs to stop.

You can't believe anyone- woman or man without evidence...any person can make accusations and that is not proof.

Lancero (2,088 posts)

54. Well, that's one way to justify sexual harassment.

How far are you willing to draw that line? What else will you excuse? What else will you justify? What else will you wholeheartedly support?

Star Member Demsrule86 (52,140 posts)

63. You know what...I heard the same BS with Governor Northam...and I will say the same thing.

The GOP and others who dislike Cuomo are using this to get rid of him...and we can't allow it. I am the victim of violent sexual assault. I have also experience sexual harassment... and I don't see that here.

This is political. And I bitterly resent using 'Me Too' politically. Already, you see women not being believe when they should be. This is a merely an attempt to destroy powerful Democrats. And I won't be part of it...purity costs us elections. Had we rushed in and forced Northam and Fairfax out when the GOP plotted to get rid of them...Virginia would be run by Republicans today.

Star Member Demsrule86 (52,140 posts)

38. Yes. I don't believe this is sexual harassment period. and I am sick of the me too

movement being used for political payback. As a woman who survived sexual assault...it pisses me off to see sexual harassment or Sexual assault used for political reasons... which in the end will make it so women who experience what I did are not believed.

ADK (62 posts)

46. Cuomo did this to himself.

Cuomo governs by fear and has no friends outside of his very small circle of like-minded advisors. While the Dems in the State legislature endure Cuomo, there is a lot of cheering amongst them in private quarters right now, and don’t expect many Dems in NY to stand up for Cuomo. Cuomo has become toxic.

Keep in mind that AG Tish James (D) started this ball rolling when she released her nursing homes report, and Assemblyman Ron Kim (D) pushed it along when he went public with the Cuomo threats. The women who came forward with sexual harassment allegations are both former Cuomo staffers and Dems too. I wouldn’t be surprised if more accounts of Cuomo bullying or worse start coming to light now that ball has picked up steam.

https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/For-Cuomo-a-legacy-of-intimidation-hardball-15972208.php?IPID=Times-Union-HP-CP-Spotlight

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/andrew-cuomo-bullying-crisis-new-york-governor_n_603a7dcfc5b6d7794adf4ee

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/10/19/andrew-cuomo-the-king-of-new-york

Star Member BlueLucy (615 posts)

49. I don't care.

Trump and republicans get away with so much really vile behavior that I am numb to wrong doings now. Republicans have set president.

Star Member Greybnk48 (9,043 posts)

65. Trump is going after him for revenge.

I believe he's a clumsy flirter, and inappropriate, but nothing more.

He's being "Al Frankened," and Democrats need to stop it.

Star Member leftyladyfrommo (14,376 posts)

75. Maybe Cuomo can be a jerk but it takes someone like

him to go up against Trump. Most people were too intimated to do anything.

And Trump pretty much left Cuomo alone because he knew it wasn't a good idea to mess with him.

Star Member Laura PourMeADrink (35,020 posts)

80. Not sure if you're talking about reporting. But my dad went From hospital to nursing home for his back and they put him next to a man with covid. He died 14 days later. So, the part about nursing homes being unprepared and negligent maybe hospitals too, is real.

 

Mr.Bill (11,424 posts)

82. I don't want to live in a world where

nothing but words from a few people can destroy someone's career.

I'll keep an open mind, but there needs to be some more investigation.

 

[Carl]

God,I hate these morons.

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[SVPete]

Cuomo's main usefulness to the Dems and their MSM shills was his attacks on Trump. That usefulness ended Election Day, 2020. He lost his shield from the nursing home scandal, and when that hit it got to the point that some women figured his power to ruin them was over. So now they, too, are speaking out.

Not all that different from what has happened to Lincoln Project leaders, IMO.

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theneworiginal (264 posts)

66. The thing that makes me go hmmmm...

is that Trump did not jump on him about it. He remained conspicuously distant.

Normally, I am quick to guess that most women who come out with these kinds of stories are real victims, with some exceptions, of course. But I am reserving judgment on this one. Requesting an inquiry reflects well on the Gov.

What appears obvious to me in the recent stories about AC is that he is not easy to work with. He has a lot of conflicts which I guess is inevitable in a complicated state like NY, but people don't see him as warm and fuzzy. There's a big jump from being tough on people and threatening to ruin them, however, but he does not seemed well-liked by colleagues.

Not sure what to make of all this.

We have thoroughly investigated ourselves and found no wrong doing.

[Zathras]

Star Member brush (33,972 posts)

Anyone else skeptical about the Gov. Cuomo accusations?

Not me. After all, you DUmbasses were saying to "Believe All Women" when the accusations of sexual misconduct were raised about Supreme Court Justice Kavanaugh during his confirmation hearings. Why is this any different? Unless you DUmbasses are a bunch of hypocrites who think that rules apply to thee and not me?

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