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My advice to the Democrats if they take control of the Federal government in January.

Dear Democrats,

Should you take complete control of the Federal government in January, you need to act as if you are the sole national party of the U.S. What does that mean? Right now, all Americans are in some stage of crisis, either ill from the disease, unemployed, and/or have no means to send their children to school. What's the Republican response? Nothing. The Republicans have completely abdicated their responsibility to govern this nation. They simply do not care about the people they are supposed to lead.

That means that you have to act unilaterally to address this emergency. Do not seek out bi-partisan support. If you have to kill the filibuster to get help to the American people. Do it. Do not hesitate. Do not concern yourself with budget deficits. If a foreign army had invaded the U.S. and killed 150,000 Americans, we would be writing blank checks to our military. This is the same situation.

Think big to find solutions to this crisis.

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Star Member still_one (70,983 posts)

2. If the country is lucky, and we win the WH and both houses of Congress, the first thing we

must do eliminate the filibuster.

Next thing is make Washington DC a state. For years we have faced a disadvantage with only two Senators from each state, regardless of size, and this will solve that problem for years to come

After that we undo the destruction of our republican that the republicans have been doing for years

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33. And Puerto Rico, if it's willing.

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Star Member thucythucy (4,885 posts)

3. Also, take steps to redress the imbalance in power that sees a minority party more and more out of step with the vast majority of voters somehow ending up in control of the presidency, the Congress, and the judiciary.

The Democratic candidate for the presidency won the plurality of votes in six out of the past seven elections, and yet the GOP took the White House in three of those elections.

Vast swaths of voters aren't even represented by voting members in Congress, the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico come immediately to mind. There should be an immediate push for statehood for both of them.

There also needs to be some sort of commission set up to examine all the Trump appointments to offices in the executive branch, with the goal of weeding out appointees who are clearly incompetent and even opposed to the goals of their department.

Congress needs to hold hearings on Russian and other foreign influence in our government, on how the COVID relief money was spent, on "faith based initiatives" that have funneled money into racist, homophobic, and misogynist organizations, on right wing infiltration of the police and the military, on the use of paramilitary groups to crush dissent, on the failed response to the pandemic, on the gutting of environmental and civil rights regulations, on the compromising of science at the CDC and elsewhere, and on whatever other atrocities and have committed these past four years.

Investigations also need to be launched into possible illegalities committed by the Trump clan involved in government, including violations of the Hatch Act and the emoluments clause of the Constitution.

Legislation must be passed requiring all presidential candidates to release at least ten years worth of their tax returns.

Legislation must be passed requiring all holders of public office to put their personal business into blind trusts during the length of their terms in office.

And some way must be found to gut the Electoral College's ability to assign presidents regardless of the choice of the voters.

There's more, but this is for starters. If we can get these measures passed we can help insure that the will of the people will be respected going into the future.

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Star Member KPN (10,741 posts)

40. Trump appointees can be terminated immediately and

temporarily replaced with career employees if need be to manage agency operations. Career employees are typically invested and support the mission and fundamental goals of the federal agencies. This is not always the case with appointees— tRump appointees being the best (or, in effect mission-wise, worst) example. Can tRump appointees day one.

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Star Member dixiechiken1 (222 posts)

15. 100% agree with everything you said except this:

There also needs to be some sort of commission set up to examine all the Trump appointments to offices in the executive branch, with the goal of weeding out appointees who are clearly incompetent and even opposed to the goals of their department.


I don't believe we need a commission. Dump all of his appointments. Every. Single. One. On day one. We already know what qualification Trump considered necessary for them to be appointed in the first place: loyalty to Trump.

In 3-1/2 years, he hasn't appointed or nominated anyone based on their experience in government or their knowledge of the department to which they were appointed. Let the career government employees continue on and bring those who were unceremoniously "you're fired"-ed (is too a word) back into the fold, if they so choose.

We have got to rebuild our government from the ground up again to undo the damage that shitstain has done. IMO, the first step towards that end is to clean house. Quickly & mercilessly.

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30. The fatal flaw in the constitution

Also, take steps to redress the imbalance in power that sees a minority party more and more out of step with the vast majority of voters somehow ending up in control of the presidency, the Congress, and the judiciary.


Unfortunately this is due to the fatal flaw in the constitution that empowered the minority. Between the EC and the unalterable requirement for every state to have 2 senators, we are doomed to be ruled to a great degree by the minority. By 2040 roughly 70% of the population will live in just 15 states. That will give them outsized influence on the EC, the senate, and as such the judiciary.

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Star Member I_UndergroundPanther (2,599 posts)

35. Get rid of the flaw

If Dems control the three branches of the federal government they will have the votes to fix it. Permanently.

I suggest they write thier solution in plain unambiguous language. Without loopholes.

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zipplewrath (15,311 posts)

39. The senate is unalterable

It's the only feature of the constitution that is exempt from the amendment process. Short of a constitutional convention, there is nothing to be done. The only other option is to bust up large states into numerous small ones, the size of North Dakota.

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Star Member I_UndergroundPanther (2,599 posts)

49. Maybe we will have to do that

Because we cannot allow the minority to have such control over our lives.

It will leave the door open to tyranny. We must close lock and weld that door shut. Even if there are sweeping changes. Maybe we need those changes.

Unless you wanna go through this shit all over again.

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11. Nancy Pelosi will be the first to call the Capital Police to escort Donnie out he refuses to leave.

Somehow I think it will not come to that. If Biden’s vote is large enough, the courts will not intervene to save Trump. In January, he will resign so Pence can pardon him and be the one to hand ver the presidency. I don’t think Trump can stand what he will see as the humiliation of losing and having to publicly to demonstrate that he he lost and has to move on.

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Star Member ancianita (17,610 posts)

26. I don't want us to be like them. I want: Fairer voting. Single issue bills. Straight up or down.

No bullshit haggling or stealth insertions.

Let them stew at watching how well Democrats execute governance.

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Star Member I_UndergroundPanther (2,599 posts)

50. I want them empowered

To do whatever it takes to get rid of the republicans and thier antiamerican policies.

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19. Build a justice department that will aggressively prosecute every single one of these bastards. I doubt it will be hard to find crimes committed by every one of them. And if Trump resigns and Pence pardons everybody, assist AGs in states to go after them there. At the very least, get all that are lawyers disbarred. Make their lives a legal living hell. Let this be the motto of the DOJ:

Trump did what he did because Richard Nixon didn't die in prison. Carve it in stone on the front of the building.

I can think of over 2000 felony charges on Hillary without thinking too hard.

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MichMan (3,678 posts)

42. UBI of $5000 per month for anyone over 18.

Each household of two or more would automatically receive $120k per year for living.

 :o

$60,000 a year... for everyone over 18... Who the **** would do any work?

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Star Member cstanleytech (21,002 posts)

44. While I am not sure if that is a good idea for them to do but if and I mean IF they do then

they had better go whole hog and do some other major changes.
For example SCOTUS should be changed to 27 seats packed with young progressive judges no older than 40 max.
Second would be a massive infrastructure bill as well as major education spending and national healthcare program.
Not to mention redoing the entire tax system so the wealthy and corporations start actually paying their fair share rather than the majority of the burden being placed on the poor and middle class most of whom are probably tired of surviving on crumbs.

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My advice to the Democrats if they take control of the Federal government in January.

Dear Democrats,

Should you take complete control of the Federal government in January, you need to act as if you are the sole national party of the U.S. What does that mean? Right now, all Americans are in some stage of crisis, either ill from the disease, unemployed, and/or have no means to send their children to school. What's the Republican response? Nothing. The Republicans have completely abdicated their responsibility to govern this nation. They simply do not care about the people they are supposed to lead.

That means that you have to act unilaterally to address this emergency. Do not seek out bi-partisan support. If you have to kill the filibuster to get help to the American people. Do it. Do not hesitate. Do not concern yourself with budget deficits. If a foreign army had invaded the U.S. and killed 150,000 Americans, we would be writing blank checks to our military. This is the same situation.

Think big to find solutions to this crisis.

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Star Member still_one (70,983 posts)

2. If the country is lucky, and we win the WH and both houses of Congress, the first thing we

must do eliminate the filibuster.

Next thing is make Washington DC a state. For years we have faced a disadvantage with only two Senators from each state, regardless of size, and this will solve that problem for years to come

Translation: establish a dictatorship and rig the system so that our opponents will ever be able to be elected into a position of power again.  Because we have to save the democracy!!!!

Trump Won.  Get over it!

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$60,000 a year... for everyone over 18... Who the **** would do any work?


The 60+ million Trump voters who now are without a vote or representation and are now slaves of the democrat party dictatorship as a form of reparations for not thinking or voting the right way
Trump Won.  Get over it!

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Right now, all Americans are in some stage of crisis, either ill from the disease, unemployed, and/or have no means to send their children to school.

Hmmmm ... weird. I'm not ill from any disease. I'm not unemployed. And the one child of mine that is still in college took online classes in the spring semester plus summer classes. I will admit the this child was unable to return to China for the spring semester. And yet I'm an American.
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The crazy thing is they think they are 'Uniting America' with this garbage.  Their idea of 'Uniting' involves the extreme suppression of contrary views.  And, since they don't even agree with each other on all their triggery BS, it eventually devolves to totalitarian control by the most fanatical reign-of-terror 15% or so while everyone else is reduced to proles or zeks.
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Take the worst behaviors of the German Nazis, the Soviet Communists, and the Chi-coms and that’s what the primitives want; a one party State and anyone who disagrees is to be eliminated. Hey, I’m just repeating what the primitives said in their posts above.

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26. I don't want us to be like them. I want: Fairer voting. Single issue bills. Straight up or down.

No bullshit haggling or stealth insertions.

Never going to happen with the Democrats. Why would they change to an honest government when they're the masters of dirty tricks?

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Let them stew at watching how well Democrats execute governance.

Don't worry DUmbass. We've seen plenty of "how well" Democrats execute governance in places like Chiraq, Seattle, Portland, Minneapolis, NYC, LA, SF Bay Area and other metropolis under Democratic governance to know just how bad it is.
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There's one of two things that's going to happen.

If Biden wins, the first order of business for the Democrats and primitives will be to wreak vengeance upon Republicans and other decent people.  There'll probably be a bunch of events resembling the St. Bartholomew's Day massacres.

But this side isn't exactly passive, and will probably uprise against such tyranny and bloodshed, creating even more social disorder.

If Trump wins, the Democrats and primitives will be unwilling to peacefully accept the results, and riot, burn, loot, rape, and murder all over the country.

The situation reeling out of control, and The People wanting stability, a "Strong Man" making President Trump seem like St. Francis of Assisi or Mahatma Gandhi will emerge.
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If Trump wins, the Democrats and primitives will be unwilling to peacefully accept the results, and riot, burn, loot, rape, and murder all over the country.

That's already started. In Portland, Seattle, Chicago, SF, NY and lots of other Dem run municipalities. All of those places are competing to be the next Detroit.  Hopefully, this will get voters across the country to get off their butts in November and vote for Trump.

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And the DUmbasses wonder why we call them totalitarian communists.
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