Now that you have had time to assimilate it, ...

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Star Member kentuck (98,286 posts)
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Now that you have had time to assimilate it, what do you think of yesterday's SC decisions?

Things do tend to look a little different in the rear view mirror.

But, from what I have gathered, the NY state case against Trump was granted and the Congressional case against Trump was not granted, although the Chief Justice stated that no president was above the law or exempt from subpoena.

A 7-2 majority voted that a grand jury could have access to Trump's tax returns in New York case. However, it would be in secret. What kind of problems might that present?

In my opinion, the Congressional ruling is slightly more problematic. They ruled that the Congressional request for financial documents was not "narrow" enough. Who will define what "narrow" means in the future? It could be open to interpretation, relative to political opportunity. What is to prevent any Court from saying it is not "narrow" enough? Either the Congress has the power of oversight or they do not.

In appearance, it looks as if the SC is saying that no one is above the law and the President must adhere to the requests of the grand jury and must adhere to the requests from Congress of relevant information.

In reality, it might be only a cover, to delay and to deny justice in both cases, in my opinion.

 

Star Member Laelth (25,550 posts)

1. Both rulings took compromise positions.

It could have been worse.

-Laelth

Star Member Happy Hoosier (1,568 posts)

3. I've heard people call it a "compromise" ruling.... I don't really see it that way.

To me, it seems to be the only possible reasonable position.

The President is not immune from subpoenas, but may argue that certain subpoenas are not reasonable or violate certain privileges. Any ordinary citizen can make the same arguments.

That's the proper ruling. It sucks that this means he gets to run out the clock, but that's due to slow-ass process.

greymattermom (5,435 posts)

4. So if Congress is investigating Russian influence,

they can subpoena any financial records related to Russia, and so on?

 

Star Member spanone (121,621 posts)

5. Don't worry, as soon as we have a Democratic President the court will allow any kind of subpoena

and it will all be live on fox teevee in prime time

 

[SVPete]

Both decisions sent the cases back to trial courts where Trump's team can still argue against the release of the tax returns, possibly successfully in both cases. And both cases will come again before the USSC.

And Lucy is sitting there with a case of footballs, .