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Just Got Into It With A Customer / Friend This Nightmare Is 100% Trump's Fault

Our intelligence told the Israelis in November this was coming.

Trump called it a hoax and did nothing while it spread unchecked for months.

Trump's administration removed most of the scientists in China who were looking for this crap (according to Biden).

We have the most doctors, ventilators and everything else, and have by far the most dead. Why?

Failed Leadership.

He couldn't argue.....

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1. Because this is absolutely Trump's fault.

Obama left so much in the cupboard that Trump cut pandemic funding and personnel. He was given a playbook and ignored it. He was offered tests and declined to take it. We had plenty of notice that a virus was on the other side of the planet headed this way. I could on and on with all the reasons why it's his fault. I for one am enraged about the needless death and destruction. It will take years for the economy to recover.

And as if that isn't enough, he'll doom us with a second wave.

 :whatever:

It's like the "18,000 lies" and the multitude of crimes they "know" Trump has done...  :bs:

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2. I Kept Telling Him This Is Failed Leadership

And the clown won't even wear a mask, I said.

My friend said "thanks for the politics". I said politics stops here and I held up my hand like a chop, and said reality starts here. If Trump did something good I would give him credit. He hasn't. He has totally failed.

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4. +1, I talked to two MAGA Cultist and they agree that Trump sat on his ass when all this began

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Just Got Into It With A Customer / Friend 1.) This Nightmare Is 100% Trump's Fault

2.) Our intelligence told the Israelis in November this was coming.

3.) Trump called it a hoax and did nothing while it spread unchecked for months.

4.) Trump's administration removed most of the scientists in China who were looking for this crap (according to Biden).

5.) We have the most doctors, ventilators and everything else, and have by far the most dead. Why?

1.) What in Hades kind of business owner "gets into it" with customers? And if an employee, the business owner should consider canning DU-Moron DanieRains!

2.) Stupidly false, since it was only in mid-December that doctors in Wuhan had enough patients with the same symptoms to recognize a pattern.

3.) Trump did not call this coronavirus a hoax. He called the Dems' politicization of it a coax, quite accurately. Even Snopes had admitted this, :rotf: .

As for the stupidly false claim that Trump "did nothing for months", China notified WHO - after info leaked out of China - on 12/31/2019. On 1/2/2020 (US time), the US CDC offered to send specialists to China.

CDC issued a Level 1 travel notice for Wuhan, China: January 6, 2020, https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2020/01/cdc-issues-level-1-watch-travel-notice.html

CDC offered to send team to China: January 6, 2020, https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisettevoytko/2020/01/28/cdc-offers-china-help-as-coronavirus-outbreak-grows-according-to-report/#5b15af734ee4

CDC established a coronavirus incident management system: January 7, 2020, https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/videos/coronavirus/COVID-19-webinar.pdf

CDC alert to clinicians to ask patients with "severe respiratory illness" whether they had traveled to Wuhan: January 8, 2020, https://emergency.cdc.gov/han/han00424.asp

The US started screening arriving passengers from China: January 17, 2020, JFK, SFO, LAX https://www.businessinsider.com/new-disease-virus-china-us-airports-screening-cdc-2020-1 ; O'Hare and Hartsfield-Jackson January 22, 2020, https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/01/21/us-screenings-coronavirus-expanded-airports-atlanta-chicago/

Dr. Fauci announces the National Institutes of Health working developing a vaccine for coronavirus: January 20, 2020, https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/20/health/coronavirus-nih-vaccine-development/index.html

CDC activated its emergency operations center: January 20, 2020, https://emergency.cdc.gov/recentincidents/index.asp?cid=EPR-homepage

Pharmaceuticals company working with US government to develop vaccine: January 22, 2020, Moderna, https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/22/moderna-is-working-on-a-vaccine-for-chinas-deadly-coronavirus.html

CDC sought “special emergency authorization” from FDA to allow states to use its coronavirus test: January 23, 2020, https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-cdc-idUSKBN1ZM2XS

CDC renewed offer to send team to China: January 28, 2020, https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/480314-us-looks-to-send-health-experts-to-china-amid

White House announced the formation of the Coronavirus Task Force: January 29, 2020, https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/480627-white-house-announces-task-force-to-monitor-coronavirus

US personnel evacuated from Wuhan: January 29, 2020, https://abcnews.go.com/US/us-chartering-evacuation-flight-wuhan-coronavirus-zone-california/story?id=68571310

Trump declared a public health emergency: January 31, 2020, https://abcnews.go.com/Health/delta-suspends-us-flights-china-amid-coronavirus/story?id=68666037

State Department raised the travel advisory for China to Level 4, do not travel: January 31, 2020, https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/2020/01/31/coronavirus-china-flight-ban-delta-cuts-all-flights-white-house/4620989002/

People entering the US from China forbidden: Announced January 31, 2020, effective February 2, 2020, https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/02/us/coronavirus-us-travel-restrictions/index.html

4.) "According to Biden", :rotf: .The full story is boring, but basically they had been in China working on a multinational project, and their part was ending. China had plenty of its own scientists, but in late December and early January they were being ordered by China to destroy their work and stop all communication about this virus.

Ai Fen, director of Wuhan Central Hospital, posted a WeChat message about the new SARS-like virus and reprimanded: December 30, 2019, https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/11/coronavirus-wuhan-doctor-ai-fen-speaks-out-against-authorities

Genomics company employee ordered by Hubei Provincial Health Commission official to stop testing and destroy samples: January 1, 2020, https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/how-early-signs-of-the-coronavirus-were-spotted-spread-and-throttled-in-china

Just after 8 AM China time, a senior official of Wuhan Central Hospital subjects Dr. Ai Fen to what she later describes as “an unprecedented and very severe rebuke.” The official tells her not to speak to anyone, including her husband, about the pneumonia cases: January 2, 2020 (China), https://tinyurl.com/sggfhq8 (Chinese language)

China's National Health Commission ordered institutions not to publish any information and ordered labs to transfer samples to testing institutions (without designating an institution) or to destroy them: January 3, 2020, https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/how-early-signs-of-the-coronavirus-were-spotted-spread-and-throttled-in-china

Li Wenliang detained by Wuhan police for "spreading false rumors": January 3, 2020, https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/feb/07/coronavirus-chinese-rage-death-whistleblower-doctor-li-wenliang

5.) China's and Iran's stats are bogus, and Russia's questionable at best. That said, If one looks at the deaths per million in population numbers, https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries ,Spain, UK, France, Italy, Belgium, Netherlands, Sweden, Switzerland, Ireland, Israel, Japan, Austria, Denmark, Norway, Australia, Finland, Hungary, Iceland, and New Zealand are all doing worse, most far worse.
If The Vaccine is deadly as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, millions now living would have died.

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When you are the beneficiary of someone’s kindness and generosity, it produces a sense of gratitude and community.

When you are the beneficiary of a policy that steals from someone and gives it to you in return for your vote, it produces a sense of entitlement and dependency.

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OOOPS HERE IS ANOTHER FACT FILLED GRAPHIC.
When you are the beneficiary of someone’s kindness and generosity, it produces a sense of gratitude and community.

When you are the beneficiary of a policy that steals from someone and gives it to you in return for your vote, it produces a sense of entitlement and dependency.

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1.) What in Hades kind of business owner "gets into it" with customers? And if an employee, the business owner should consider canning DU-Moron DanieRains!

2.) Stupidly false, since it was only in mid-December that doctors in Wuhan had enough patients with the same symptoms to recognize a pattern.

3.) Trump did not call this coronavirus a hoax. He called the Dems' politicization of it a coax, quite accurately. Even Snopes had admitted this, :rotf: .

As for the stupidly false claim that Trump "did nothing for months", China notified WHO - after info leaked out of China - on 12/31/2019. On 1/2/2020 (US time), the US CDC offered to send specialists to China.

CDC issued a Level 1 travel notice for Wuhan, China: January 6, 2020, https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2020/01/cdc-issues-level-1-watch-travel-notice.html

CDC offered to send team to China: January 6, 2020, https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisettevoytko/2020/01/28/cdc-offers-china-help-as-coronavirus-outbreak-grows-according-to-report/#5b15af734ee4

CDC established a coronavirus incident management system: January 7, 2020, https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/videos/coronavirus/COVID-19-webinar.pdf

CDC alert to clinicians to ask patients with "severe respiratory illness" whether they had traveled to Wuhan: January 8, 2020, https://emergency.cdc.gov/han/han00424.asp

The US started screening arriving passengers from China: January 17, 2020, JFK, SFO, LAX https://www.businessinsider.com/new-disease-virus-china-us-airports-screening-cdc-2020-1 ; O'Hare and Hartsfield-Jackson January 22, 2020, https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/01/21/us-screenings-coronavirus-expanded-airports-atlanta-chicago/

Dr. Fauci announces the National Institutes of Health working developing a vaccine for coronavirus: January 20, 2020, https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/20/health/coronavirus-nih-vaccine-development/index.html

CDC activated its emergency operations center: January 20, 2020, https://emergency.cdc.gov/recentincidents/index.asp?cid=EPR-homepage

Pharmaceuticals company working with US government to develop vaccine: January 22, 2020, Moderna, https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/22/moderna-is-working-on-a-vaccine-for-chinas-deadly-coronavirus.html

CDC sought “special emergency authorization” from FDA to allow states to use its coronavirus test: January 23, 2020, https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-cdc-idUSKBN1ZM2XS

CDC renewed offer to send team to China: January 28, 2020, https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/480314-us-looks-to-send-health-experts-to-china-amid

White House announced the formation of the Coronavirus Task Force: January 29, 2020, https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/480627-white-house-announces-task-force-to-monitor-coronavirus

US personnel evacuated from Wuhan: January 29, 2020, https://abcnews.go.com/US/us-chartering-evacuation-flight-wuhan-coronavirus-zone-california/story?id=68571310

Trump declared a public health emergency: January 31, 2020, https://abcnews.go.com/Health/delta-suspends-us-flights-china-amid-coronavirus/story?id=68666037

State Department raised the travel advisory for China to Level 4, do not travel: January 31, 2020, https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/2020/01/31/coronavirus-china-flight-ban-delta-cuts-all-flights-white-house/4620989002/

People entering the US from China forbidden: Announced January 31, 2020, effective February 2, 2020, https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/02/us/coronavirus-us-travel-restrictions/index.html

4.) "According to Biden", :rotf: .The full story is boring, but basically they had been in China working on a multinational project, and their part was ending. China had plenty of its own scientists, but in late December and early January they were being ordered by China to destroy their work and stop all communication about this virus.

Ai Fen, director of Wuhan Central Hospital, posted a WeChat message about the new SARS-like virus and reprimanded: December 30, 2019, https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/11/coronavirus-wuhan-doctor-ai-fen-speaks-out-against-authorities

Genomics company employee ordered by Hubei Provincial Health Commission official to stop testing and destroy samples: January 1, 2020, https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/how-early-signs-of-the-coronavirus-were-spotted-spread-and-throttled-in-china

Just after 8 AM China time, a senior official of Wuhan Central Hospital subjects Dr. Ai Fen to what she later describes as “an unprecedented and very severe rebuke.” The official tells her not to speak to anyone, including her husband, about the pneumonia cases: January 2, 2020 (China), https://tinyurl.com/sggfhq8 (Chinese language)

China's National Health Commission ordered institutions not to publish any information and ordered labs to transfer samples to testing institutions (without designating an institution) or to destroy them: January 3, 2020, https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/how-early-signs-of-the-coronavirus-were-spotted-spread-and-throttled-in-china

Li Wenliang detained by Wuhan police for "spreading false rumors": January 3, 2020, https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/feb/07/coronavirus-chinese-rage-death-whistleblower-doctor-li-wenliang

5.) China's and Iran's stats are bogus, and Russia's questionable at best. That said, If one looks at the deaths per million in population numbers, https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries ,Spain, UK, France, Italy, Belgium, Netherlands, Sweden, Switzerland, Ireland, Israel, Japan, Austria, Denmark, Norway, Australia, Finland, Hungary, Iceland, and New Zealand are all doing worse, most far worse.
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And yet, the OP at DU claims 'reality begins here". What an asshat!  :lmao:

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We have the most doctors, ventilators and everything else, and have by far the most dead. Why?

Failed Leadership.

He couldn't argue.....
We don't have the most doctors per capita, which would seem more relevant. Also, my understanding is that by the time a person need a ventilator, their prognosis is already poor.

They call Trump's supporters "cultists", and yet these "cultists" don't even have a modicum of talking points to defeat obviously specious reasoning? Give me a break.
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4. +1, I talked to two MAGA Cultist and they agree that Trump sat on his ass when all this began
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4. +1, I talked to two MAGA Cultist and they agree that Trump sat on his ass when all this began

Dubious :bouncy: , but if true, as my post above listing doings of the Trump Administration for just January, 2020 shows, those Trump supporters are not well informed. While Star Moron uponit7771's ignorance is understandable, being willful, any time a MSM skews media type parrots the Trump-Did-Nothing narrative or fails to correct a Dem pol spouting it, they are all but certainly lying. My post above also shows that all the events were reported at the time or are documented in government documents.
If The Vaccine is deadly as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, millions now living would have died.

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If DaineRains really wants to have a debate about deaths, maybe he should study some other stats first;

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The third-leading cause of death in US most doctors don’t want you to know about

PUBLISHED THU, FEB 22 20189:31 AM ESTUPDATED WED, FEB 28 20189:39 AM EST
Ray Sipherd, special to CNBC.com

KEY POINTS

A recent Johns Hopkins study claims more than 250,000 people in the U.S. die every year from medical errors. Other reports claim the numbers to be as high as 440,000.

Medical errors are the third-leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer.

Advocates are fighting back, pushing for greater legislation for patient safety.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/22/medical-errors-third-leading-cause-of-death-in-america.html


So ... let the debate begin.

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