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Counting this election, Democrats will have won the popular vote in 7 of the last 8 presidential elections.

Of course, Republican will say that the popular vote is meaningless, and that it's an electoral strategy, and if needed, they could pull more votes in states like TX...blah, blah, blah.

Don't buy that b.s. for a second. Nothing is stopping Repubican voters in red states for voting for president if they wanted to. In one of those elections, 2000, TX's "favorite son" Bush II was on the ballot. So why didn't they come out in droves to vote for him?

On a national scale, the will of the people favors the Democratic party and has consistently done so since 1992. The people understand the need for effective, well-run government, and they want an effective, competent leader of their government.

We're not as divided as the media portrays us to be

What is the population of red states vs the population of blue states?

1. Based on 2016’s presidential results, this is how the situation looks:

Trump states- 192,672,429 (58.6%)

Hillary states- 135,672,429 (41.4%)

2. Based on governors:

Democratic governors- 171,649,239 (52.3%)

Republican governors- 156,410,043 (47.7%)

3. Based on US Senate elections:

2 Democratic Senators- 144,872,446 (44.2%)

2 Republican Senators- 136,336,964 (41.6%)

Divided Delegation- 46,147,417

DC residents who don’t have Senators- 702,455 (0.2%)

4. Based on State Legislative elections:

Republican Legislatures- 184,108,998 (56.1%)

Democratic Legislatures- 134,969,974 (41.2%)

Split/ DC voters- 8,890,340 (2.7%)

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Star Member Hortensis (38,421 posts)

1. And we're still the people who elected Obama twice by large margins.

Republicans can only win national elections by stealing them. Even their big electoral college advantage won't do it for them alone.

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Bernardo de La Paz (33,361 posts)

2. Past due to get rid of the Electoral College. Small states already have Senatorial advantage. . nt

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Star Member Hortensis (38,421 posts)

5. Yes! But effectively impossible. We can get rid of the winner-take-all delegate allocation system I think 48 (?) states use in the GE. That'd make the process a lot more democratic right there and could be done by state legislatures. Independently, too, over time as their situations allowed.

Most observers seem to feel SCOTUS will rule in the case heard last week that states can require electors to cast their votes in accordance with state election laws/results, though from what I've read textualists and originalists should seemingly favor the constitutional instruction that electors are to vote. Whatever, in either case best if states require allocating electors proportional to the votes they receive from the electorate.

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3. I don't think there has been an "honest" election for President since 1996.

Every one since then has had some sort of GOP induced black cloud shrouded over them. The Supreme Court giving BushII the election in 2000, Karl Rove and hackable voting machines in 2004 and the same machines again in the two Obama elections. Then of course the Russian trolls in 2016, not mention a two decade campaign by the GOP for voter suppression and their supposed battle of voter fraud. Kemp in Georgia took it to extremes with his purging of the voter rolls. And the list goes on and on.

The one, most important brick of Democracy in fair, free and open voting, and we have not had it for years. This year looks to be even worse.

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6. I think Republicans tried to get more votes in Indiana by messing with the computers

Perhaps they were practicing, but they did something wrong and it backfired, causing Obama to win despite all polls showing otherwise. In 2012 Romney won by 11. Indiana 2008 is very odd.

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8. The one that they won

Was the re-election of an incumbent who didn't actually win the popular vote.

You could make the argument that they would have lost that one as well if the incumbency wasn't conferred by the Electoral College.

Just imagine what the Supreme Court would look like if we had a passing resemblance to a real democracy.

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8. The one that they won

Was the re-election of an incumbent who didn't actually win the popular vote.

You could make the argument that they would have lost that one as well if the incumbency wasn't conferred by the Electoral College.

Just imagine what the Supreme Court would look like if we had a passing resemblance to a real democracy.


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Get rid of the Winner Take All that's in 48 states for a proportional allocation of Electoral Votes? Get ready for never having a Democratic President ever again.
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