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How would President Clinton have handles C-19 differently
« on: March 23, 2020, 08:38:05 AM »
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How would President Clinton have handles C-19 differently

 
Although she is not president, despite winning more votes we can take an educated guess on how she would respond.

1/ she would not have fired the pandemic response team. Because of that the US would be ahead of the curve instead of "flattening the curve"

2/ She would not have eliminated the USA infectious disease specialist position embedded in the China CDC.

As a result of NOT doing those 2 things, we would have been watching when this started. We would have had a whole team of CDC specialists working on this last year. <- this is important. Because the US was caught flat footed; conspiracy theories abound and disinformation runs rampant, creating a panic.

3/ she would have accepted the WHO test kits ASAP. As a stop-gap until we could create our own. if we hadn't already.

By doing this the infection rate would be lower. Asymptomatic carriers would have been found and quarantined. Symptomatic people would be found and treated before their symptoms became severe, saving lives.

4/ She would not been on TV everyday inciting panic, with lie after lie.

5/As for needed supplies? She would have known the comfort ships were in dry dock for maintenance. She would have either not promised their delivery until ready or hastened their preparedness.

6/ She would have given updates based on facts and science. Calls for unity and strength. Asking Americans to stand up to meet the common goals, while consoling those who are affected.

7/ While you can't prove a negative, I suspect the stock market would not be in total collapse as they are now. Strong leadership and a proactive instead of a reactive government creates calm, not chaos.

In the absence of a strong leadership, you get what we have today. 4 months in and still no test kits, shutdowns across the USA, free-fall on Wall St. People holding their breath for 10 seconds as a self test, people ignoring quarantine guidelines, white supremacists planning to infect the police and responders, and so on. We have become a 3rd world country in 3 years.

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Re: How would President Clinton have handles C-19 differently
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2020, 08:44:23 AM »
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If her handling of past crises when she was Sec of State can be used as a reference, she would have most likely slept thru it.
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Re: How would President Clinton have handles C-19 differently
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2020, 08:47:25 AM »
It would basically be a repeat of the swine flu, with the media lavishing praise and exaltations at Clinton while thousands upon thousands die, and instead of blaming Clinton, the media will blame everyone else like they usually do. And when the cure is found, the media will make it seem like Clinton herself singlehandedly discovered the cure and saved the entire world from such a terrible disease.
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Re: How would President Clinton have handles C-19 differently
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2020, 09:09:08 AM »
Who cares. I'm just glad she's not. Woman is a colossal idiot.

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Re: How would President Clinton have handles C-19 differently
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2020, 09:45:23 AM »
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Although she is not president, despite winning more votes we can take an educated guess on how she would respond. Trump won more Electoral votes. That's why he is President. Maybe someone should ask Hillary why she didn't campaign meaningfully in so many key states, effectively surrendering their Electoral vote to Trump.

1/ she would not have fired the pandemic response team. ( :blah: ) Trump didn't "fire the pandemic response team".

2/ She would not have eliminated the USA infectious disease specialist position embedded in the China CDC. This appears to be a less than 24 hours old story based on mostly annoymorous sources plus one named Chinese source. There's probably more to what actually happened than what has been claimed (as with all Gotcha-Trumps). Implicit in this narrative, by the way, are the factoids that: A. the epidemic started in November but Chinese doctors failed to recognize a (grossly obvious) pattern; B. China's notification to WHO was later than it should have been, by several weeks. The kernel of truth in this big lie is the confirmation that the outbreak started in November, not December, and that China delayed notifying WHO by several weeks. The lie begins with the insinuation that Chinese doctors did not recognize the grossly obvious pattern. This is known to be false, that in reality Chinese doctors blew the whistle, were silenced, and were ordered to destroy their work even before China's 12/31 notification to WHO. https://www.axios.com/timeline-the-early-days-of-chinas-coronavirus-outbreak-and-cover-up-ee65211a-afb6-4641-97b8-353718a5faab.html , https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3074991/coronavirus-chinas-first-confirmed-covid-19-case-traced-back

As a result of NOT doing those 2 things, we would have been watching when this started. We would have had a whole team of CDC specialists working on this last year. <- this is important. ( :blah: ) IRL, this claim is stupid, for two reasons: A. In December, China was silencing doctors sounding the alarm and ordered them to destroy their testing; B. In early January, the CDC offered to send such a team, and China refused.

3/ she would have accepted the WHO test kits ASAP. As a stop-gap until we could create our own. if we hadn't already. Stupidly false. WHO never offered test kits to the US. At! All!

By doing this the infection rate would be lower. Asymptomatic carriers would have been found and quarantined. Symptomatic people would be found and treated before their symptoms became severe, saving lives. Stupidly false premise, stupider conclusion.

4/ She would not been on TV everyday inciting panic, with lie after lie. The liars inciting panic are the alphabet-soup networks and Dem-shills like the NYT and WashPost. Take up your complaint with them. On the side, did HilLIARy ever apologize to the guy she falsely accused of causing the Benghazi attack-fiasco?

5/As for needed supplies? She would have known the comfort ships were in dry dock for maintenance. She would have either not promised their delivery until ready or hastened their preparedness. Ummmmm, does "Mercuryblues" know that Chuck Schumer requested that the USNS Mercy be moved to NYC before Trump said Mercy and Comfort would be moved there when they are ready? Take your complaint to Chuckles, "Mercuryblues".

6/ She would have given updates based on facts and science. Calls for unity and strength. Asking Americans to stand up to meet the common goals, while consoling those who are affected. I take it that "Mercuryblues" is unaware that Trump's comments about Chloroquine are supported by its having been used by China and a much smaller French study in which it proved effective. Fauci was being partly extremely cautious, and partly indulging in Not-Invented-Here Syndrome, reflexively distrusting work not done by the FDA. As for "unity and strength", House Dems have been fine-tooth-combing Trump's actions for shampeachment pretexts. Dems are not interested in "unity and strength" while Trump is President.

7/ While you can't prove a negative, I suspect the stock market would not be in total collapse as they are now. Strong leadership and a proactive instead of a reactive government creates calm, not chaos. Stupid premise, stupider conclusion. Numerous US companies have production work done in China. China had to shut down their whole industrial base, including work done for US companies. And the stock market reacted rationally/predictably. Nothing HilLIARy would or could have done differently would have prevented that.
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Re: How would President Clinton have handles C-19 differently
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2020, 10:00:57 AM »
Based on her campaign performance, she would've coughed on everyone.

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Re: How would President Clinton have handles C-19 differently
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2020, 10:18:57 AM »
Based on her campaign performance, she would've coughed on everyone.

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Re: How would President Clinton have handles C-19 differently
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2020, 10:42:08 AM »
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Re: How would President Clinton have handles C-19 differently
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2020, 10:52:52 AM »
A little reminiscent of the crap the DUmmies would masturbate to how President Manbearpig/Algore would have reacted to 9/11.  Most of those penthouse letters describe Algore not even letting it happen.
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Re: How would President Clinton have handles C-19 differently
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2020, 11:45:12 AM »
A real analysis.

1. She would have not stopped travel from China.

2. The media would not have caused such panic because a demo-commie waas president.

3. Total infected and dead would be two (maybe 4-5 times) orders of magnitude greater.

4. The Stock market would not have lost 10,000 points because it would under 7,500 DJIA.

5. The media would be praising The Beast's performance while millions died because it could have been worse without her super smart smartiness on everything.
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Re: How would President Clinton have handles C-19 differently
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2020, 01:01:48 PM »
Wow, a nice cocktail of conjecture and wishful thinking that shows DU has no idea what's going on.

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Symptomatic people would be found and treated before their symptoms became severe, saving lives.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that's a thing right now. If you become symptomatic, you either recover on your own, or need supportive care. I don't think we currently have a treatment that stops it mid-way or makes it go away faster, hence why it's important to investigate chloroquine.

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Calls for unity and strength. Asking Americans to stand up to meet the common goals, while consoling those who are affected.
Trump gets criticized for doing exactly that.

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While you can't prove a negative, I suspect the stock market would not be in total collapse as they are now. Strong leadership and a proactive instead of a reactive government creates calm, not chaos.
This is a novel coronavirus. We don't actually know how communicable it is. We don't know exactly how lethal it is. The uncertainty about these things is bad.


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Re: How would President Clinton have handles C-19 differently
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2020, 01:25:47 PM »
What difference does it make?
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Re: How would President Clinton have handles C-19 differently
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2020, 02:23:07 PM »
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that's a thing right now. If you become symptomatic, you either recover on your own, or need supportive care. I don't think we currently have a treatment that stops it mid-way or makes it go away faster, hence why it's important to investigate chloroquine.
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We currently (that I know of) have two treatment drugs in the testing process, Remdesivir (started 2/25) and Chloroquine, with both showing significant promise. The possibility of more getting into the pipeline is high. The good thing about Remdesivir and Chloroquine is that both have gone through safety testing due to having been used for other diseases (Chloroquine predates WW2). I would be totally unsurprised if one or both is approved by August or September this year.

We also have at least one experimental vaccine that started testing on March 16. If successful, it might be ready for approval by very early 2021. I don't have inside knowledge, but the testing is being done aggressively (as such processes go).
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What difference does it make?

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What difference does it make?

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Re: How would President Clinton have handles C-19 differently
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2020, 09:02:31 PM »
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The same way they handled the haitian earthquake aid. Took the money from all the donors into the clinton foundation and stole most of it.
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Re: How would President Clinton have handles C-19 differently
« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2020, 09:35:25 AM »
Since DU-folk need to dismiss Chloroquine even if it proves to be an effective treatment, and History is not their strong suit, I'm going to help them, :-) . Chloroquine was developed in Germany in 1934, the second year of Hitler's rule. Chloroquine is a Nazi Drug!
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« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2020, 04:48:19 PM »
Another piece of evidence against DU's laughably bad assessment: U.S. ranked 1st for pandemic preparedness

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