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subway cat gets triggered by proselytizers
« on: August 25, 2008, 06:01:03 PM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3814964#3815309

Oh my.

While we're waiting for the antics to start, I offer this:

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bezdomny  (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-18-08 12:35 AM
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If panhandling is illegal, why not proselytization?
   
Since in many towns and cities, panhandling and busking are illegal because they are public nuisances, why not proselytization? It's equally annoying and impossible to get away from when you're waiting for the bus.

I'm not condoning the right of the Chinese government to take 300 bibles away from the three missionaries in Beijing, but I'm frankly not all that appalled at a policy which bans religious people from making public nuisances of themselves. It's not the same as restricting freedom of religious practice or belief... just restricting the freedom to shove your beliefs down the throats of other people in public places. I live in Shanghai... there are practicing churches and you can buy bibles at the bookstore. These jackasses at the airport aren't doing anything for freedom of religion in China.

So, if you think that China doesn't have the right to ban proselytization, do you think cities in the US have the right to ban panhandling?

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undergroundpanther  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-18-08 04:46 AM
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19. I get triggered by proselytizers
   
Once they circled me in against a wall while I was waiting to meet friends there..And I held back my reactions as long as I could,The anger and hate and anxiety was overwhelming.So I warned them to get away from me 4 times,louder and fiercer each time..Then they tried to touch me(some kind of healing shit I think) and that was it.I lost it.I started biting clawing and punching them.

My friends arrived at that time,unbeknown to me,because I was freaking out..Alex pulled me off the fundie assholes ..and he did his best to help me chill out. The other people (all of us are punk freaks)I was meeting up with, grabbed and dragged the fundies away from where I was by their hair and shirts,screamed at them,then let them go and chased them across the street and out of the park whipping out their chains and boot knives telling them to stay the **** away or they'd ****ing curb stomp'em.

We all went into a nearby pub and I got some crab soup to try to ground myself(spicy).I was shaking for a half hour.And I got the reactive depression shit two days later.The whole incident was not longer than 10 minutes,I am glad the cops didn't see this get involved because the town tends to be bigoted against punks,goths and freaks.They'd probably assume I started it.Christians get too much of a free pass by cops or security when they act like assholes.

PSTD sucks.

But I am glad I tell my friends about my issues because they might not understand why I react to certain things or do things if I didn't tell them..

Christians that proselytize are sometimes some of the most callous overbearing selfish oblivious assholes I have ever seen.

I have been accosted by proselytizers on the street a few times.Mostly they respect my boundaries tho.If they understand NO and respect that,fine.. But it has happened repeatedly that they don't respect my wish to be left alone. After I tell them to leave me alone 3 or 4 times,it is usually a full on trigger by then, and if they keep on pushing me ,I think they deserve whatever bruisings they get from us.

Some proselytizers are just narcissistic bully aggressors who have a persecution complex and the belief system is a tool for them to get away with being an asshole in public.Some christians are so narcissistic and obsessed they can't imagine WHY someone would be a maltheist that legitimately HATES their bully god and despises that sickening religion and does not think jesus is a nice guy at all,and when christians get in my face I just find I hate their god even more.Sometimes I wish we lived in a world without organized religions..

As for panhandlers,If I got some to spare I give it.I don't care if they use it for booze or whatever.Being on the street sucks,they can't rest because cops constantly harass homeless people to move them. Most people do not GET how HARD it is to live on the streets.People are bigoted as shit to homeless people,young or old.I know some gutter punks and they are homeless because their parents are abusive assholes.Alot of younger people leave abusive homes,and wind up on the street.Some are addicts some not,some become addicts because of the stress of being on the street.

I give to panhandlers If I have it, because they asked.

I had to panhandle for bus fare once to get home.I was very thankful for those folks that gave me change until it added up and I got home.

You never know why they ask.

alot of people assume the worst.It gets me pissed off seeing comfortable people treat desperate people like shit.And the proselytizers never give to anyone.They just push their ****ing religion,they are as kind and compassionate to suffering people as crack dealers are to addicts with no money going through withdrawal..
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Re: subway cat gets triggered by proselytizers
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2008, 06:18:07 PM »
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Once they circled me in against a wall
Um, Let me interrupt with a physics question.
If it was against a wall, how was the moonbat being circled?
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Re: subway cat gets triggered by proselytizers
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2008, 06:22:26 PM »
Quote from: Big Don on August 25, 2008, 06:18:07 PM
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Once they circled me in against a wall
Um, Let me interrupt with a physics question.
If it was against a wall, how was the moonbat being circled?

Remember, the subway cat makes things up.

She can't help herself.
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Re: subway cat gets triggered by proselytizers
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2008, 06:28:10 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on August 25, 2008, 06:22:26 PM
Quote from: Big Don on August 25, 2008, 06:18:07 PM
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Once they circled me in against a wall
Um, Let me interrupt with a physics question.
If it was against a wall, how was the moonbat being circled?

Remember, the subway cat makes things up.

She can't help herself.

Actually, it was the little men in white coats that circled her...... :mental:
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Re: subway cat gets triggered by proselytizers
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2008, 06:34:46 PM »
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Re: subway cat gets triggered by proselytizers
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2008, 06:37:47 PM »
They touched her and she freaked? They weren't trying to put some "healing shit" on her, they were probably trying to get her to calm down.

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Re: subway cat gets triggered by proselytizers
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2008, 06:38:42 PM »
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but I'm frankly not all that appalled at a policy which bans religious people from making public nuisances of themselves. It's not the same as restricting freedom of religious practice or belief... just restricting the freedom to shove your beliefs down the throats of other people in public places

OK...so a law that says "christians can't proselytize in public" is NOT shoving any belief down anyone's throat?    Seriously, a law that values the right of "reducing public nuisance" by silencing possibly-irritating speech is NOT shoving a belief??  :censored:



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Once they circled me in against a wall while I was waiting to meet friends there..And I held back my reactions as long as I could,The anger and hate and anxiety was overwhelming.So I warned them to get away from me 4 times,louder and fiercer each time..Then they tried to touch me(some kind of healing shit I think) and that was it.I lost it.I started biting clawing and punching them.

Talk about an animal.  IF any of this is true, all "they" did was talk, and possibly reach out to touch, and she starts biting, clawing, punching??   ::)  And, of course, it's all "their" fault.  And, of course, they deserved it when her friends "chased them across the street and out of the park whipping out their chains and boot knives telling them to stay the **** away or they'd ******* curb stomp'em."


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Christians that proselytize are sometimes some of the most callous overbearing selfish oblivious assholes I have ever seen

Guess UP doesn't use a mirror much.   ::)
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Re: subway cat gets triggered by proselytizers
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2008, 07:31:04 PM »
Knowing all of her issues and how to push her buttons, she'd be a real hoot to run into and mess with for funsies.

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Re: subway cat gets triggered by proselytizers
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2008, 07:56:44 PM »
I'm trying to figure out why anyone would approach her in the first place. She (or is it he) looks like a crazy freak and I would think most people could figure out anyone walking around with a tail hanging out her ass isn't playing with a full deck and any proselytizing would fall on deaf feline ears. She must live in a big city or something because I don't see many street preachers myself. Maybe I just don't hang out in the right places.

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Re: subway cat gets triggered by proselytizers
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2008, 08:00:48 PM »
^according to her posts, somewhere in Maryland. I think Balitmore. Which is full of colorful charactors among other things.
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