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Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
« on: October 27, 2019, 10:32:01 AM »
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Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
For a start, Trump has already argued that US forces shouldn't be in Syria and has ordered them to leave, so according to Trump, this raid should have never happened.

Second, the raid was delayed for a month because of the withdrawal order of US forces, triggering the Turkish invasion. And that withdrawal was to create a diversion from the impeachment investigation. Strategy and timing, when lives are at stake, shouldn't be based on the whims of a president.

Third, three children and two women died in this attack.

I don't see anything to gloat about here.

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3. To Trump, women and children are TERRORISTS....

Trump can try to use this to distractf, but President Obama was not under an impeachment inquiry.

Killing of OBL was a big deal. There will be people in ISIS to come up. ISIS has not been defeated. The U.S. policy, or LACK of one in Syria, will only strengthen ISIS. If Trump thinks Putin, Erdogan, and Assad are going to go to war against ISIS who have escaped, he has made a huge mistake. Things just got worse. Al-Qaeda is not dead. They are biding their time. You cannot defeat terrorism because it is an ideology that has no specific territory or country.

The invasion and occupation of Iraq was the beginning of what we have been seeing , so blame Bush for this blunder.

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4. Agreed

Also"
Baghdadi had already relinquished operational control."

Meaning all they killed was The equivalent of a CEO who sold/gave all all his assets or a mentor who has retired that ISIS could reach.

Should've tried to get him alive as hard as that would have been.

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Re: Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2019, 10:41:12 AM »
DU is  " whining and crying and screaming (like a coward) in a dead-end tunnel " .

I see everything to gloat about here. 

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Re: Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2019, 11:03:14 AM »
"Second, the raid was delayed for a month because of the withdrawal order of US forces, triggering the Turkish invasion."

I want to know how this idjit got hold of operational information that told him the raid was delayed for a month.
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Re: Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2019, 11:30:58 AM »
Lots of military plans are conducted under very tight secrecy.  If the President came out and announced them beforehand, that's akin to the Patriots just giving their opposition their entire game plan.

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Re: Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2019, 11:31:28 AM »
Yes, the raid was indeed a disaster:

Will this be the WashPost headline: Al Baghdadi Dead: Trump-Haters Hardest Hit :rotf:  :tongue:
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Re: Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2019, 11:33:11 AM »
Lots of military plans are conducted under very tight secrecy.  If the President came out and announced them beforehand, that's akin to the Patriots just giving their opposition their entire game plan.

Idiots.

You are correct on both points. Proggies are pissed they could not leak in advance of the operation; Proggies are.
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Re: Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2019, 12:41:30 PM »
Yes, the raid was indeed a disaster:

Will this be the WashPost headline: Al Baghdadi Dead: Trump-Haters Hardest Hit :rotf:  :tongue:

WaPo’s Description Of Baghdadi: ‘Austere Religious Scholar’
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Re: Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2019, 01:03:53 PM »
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Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
For a start, Trump has already argued that US forces shouldn't be in Syria and has ordered them to leave, so according to Trump, this raid should have never happened.

Second, the raid was delayed for a month because of the withdrawal order of US forces, triggering the Turkish invasion. And that withdrawal was to create a diversion from the impeachment investigation. Strategy and timing, when lives are at stake, shouldn't be based on the whims of a president.

Third, three children and two women died in this attack.

I don't see anything to gloat about here.

Welcome to DelusionVille!  Population: Dummies

From what I read no kids died and the two women blew themselves up along with their fearful leader.  Sounds to me like we did not kill anyone... they did it to themselves.  BTW... this was from the *conservative* magazine Newsweek.  :-)

Now dummie... if President Trump was to preside over America's Golden Age you idiots would swear it was iron pyrite. You know it is true. Admitting you have delusions is the first step to returning to sanity.

Edited to add: USAToday is saying that three of this fool's kids were killed as well. Newsweek says no kids were killed. So I have no clue.
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Re: Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2019, 01:29:01 PM »
I see the DUmmies are enjoying  the shit sandwich.   :cheersmate:  DUmmies
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Re: Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2019, 01:32:27 PM »
I see more meltdowns from the left.
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Re: Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2019, 01:42:44 PM »
WaPo’s Description Of Baghdadi: ‘Austere Religious Scholar’

The Dems and their MSM shills just cannot help giving Trump campaign rally and ad material.
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Re: Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2019, 07:36:27 PM »
The Dems and their MSM shills just cannot help giving Trump campaign rally and ad material.

I know, ain't it fun?  These idiots, in their seething hatred of everything Trump, are pretty much making it widely known that they are not objective observers, if they ever were.  They are trashing their credibility and they just cannot help themselves.

I love it. I hope every republican politician is taking notes.  The MSM is not your friend so quit treating them like such.
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Re: Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2019, 10:14:38 PM »
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Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.

I don't see anything to gloat about here.

Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi could not be reached for comment.

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Re: Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2019, 08:26:43 AM »
Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi could not be reached for comment.

When they asked for his location to get a comment they were told "He's over there, over there and up there".
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Re: Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2019, 09:31:55 AM »
WaPo’s Description Of Baghdadi: ‘Austere Religious Scholar’ Who was also an aspiring young rapper headed to college for an advanced degree.
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Re: Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2019, 07:49:13 PM »
I suck at the whole uploading pics and posting them here, but the description is probably good enough.  Some bright internet comic already took that picture of Al Baghdadi looking quizzical and captioned it.  "When did we get a dog?"  I ROFL.   :-)

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Re: Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2019, 08:30:02 AM »
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4. Agreed

Also"
Baghdadi had already relinquished operational control."

Meaning all they killed was The equivalent of a CEO who sold/gave all all his assets or a mentor who has retired that ISIS could reach.


Should've tried to get him alive as hard as that would have been.
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Re: Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2019, 08:46:08 AM »
Al Baghdadi and his would-be successor are dead ... could we have more "disasters" like that?
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Re: Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2019, 11:22:23 AM »
Al Baghdadi and his would-be successor are dead ... could we have more "disasters" like that?

Damn it! Killing ISIS leaders is just a recruitment tool.  :o
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Re: Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
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4. Agreed
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Should've tried to get him alive as hard as that would have been.

Absolutely!!  That way we could let the dog make the kill.  :yahoo:
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4. Agreed
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Should've tried to get him alive as hard as that would have been.

Should've shot the bomb out of his hand like they do in movies and on TV!
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« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2019, 07:26:06 AM »
Absolutely!!  That way we could let the dog make the kill.  :yahoo:

Uh Oh!  How long before the socialists realize that a dog is a weapon of war.  We are already forced to register our dogs now it  is just a matter of going door to door.
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Uh Oh!  How long before the socialists realize that a dog is a weapon of war.  We are already forced to register our dogs now it  is just a matter of going door to door.

My dog would love it if one of them showed up at my door.
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My dog would love it if one of them showed up at my door.

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High capacity, Kevlar vest defeating, assault doggo with bayonet lug and grenade launcher!!!  :cheersmate:
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