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Offline dutch508

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The Bernie-Hillary wars continue...
« on: February 05, 2019, 02:41:21 PM »
redgreenandblue (1,963 posts)

The visceral hatred for Bernie is starting to remind me of the RW hate for Obama.

Some people are triggered by literally everything he does. Post-hoc inventing of special rules to follow that have never applied to anyone else, perpetual flipping out about things he did or didn't do that are common as dirt, totally ignoring his long track record on important issues while compulsively obsessing over the smallest details of tone and style, and throwing common sense and logic completely out of the window.


"release the birth certificate!!!111"

"look how his flag pin is crooked! he disrespects the troops!!!111"

"he is secretly a Muslim!!111"

"but he isn't a real American!!!111"

"his health care plan is anti-Christian!!111"


"release the tax returns!!!1111"

"look how he waves his hands and turns his head! he disrespects women and minorities!!!111"

"he is secretly a Russian!!111"

"but he isn't a real Democrat!!!111"

"his health care plan is sexist!!111"


TCJ70 (3,516 posts)

1. I'm over here waiting patiently for the threads chastising Kamala Harris for daring to speak...

...because Stacey Abrams tonight. After the upheaval and outrage about upstaging her and disrespecting her by endorsing her run, praising her as a choice, and saying he's looking forward to it I'm sure that same level of disgust will be shown towards Harris.

I have a feeling I'll be waiting a long time.

yes- the [D]s will be speaking before and after Trump's speech... not to mention all the leftist POS on the MSM commenting after, during, and before...

Star Member DownriverDem (2,025 posts)

61. It's not hate towards Bernie

Bernie is not a member of the Democratic Party. That is a biggie to me. Last Saturday I went to the Michigan Democratic Party Convention as a delegate. There was a Bernie table there collecting signatures. Every time I walked by I asked the same thing: Did Bernie join the Democratic Party yet? Of course they just looked at me.


Initech (73,774 posts)

14. I like Bernie, I just don't want to go through the whole Hillary - Bernie debacle again.


Hillary cheated Bernie out of the primaries and bought him off with a new house...

Star Member Autumn (33,050 posts)

23. You know Bernie is a Russian asset and his goal is to destroy the Dem party because he hates it?

Yeah that's a thing now.  It's ridiculous.


Star Member Apollyonus (474 posts)

144. Tad Devine.... Manafort ... Roger Stone

Ukrainian Oligarchs ... Russian trolls attacking Hillary ... fake web pages damaging Hillary ....

Someone needs to explain why Tad Devine's scripts to call Hillary corrupt, sick, an email criminal, in the pockets of Goldman Sachs and the Clinton foundation innuendo as being pay to play were the very same ones coming from Russia, Trump and various fake sites.

Until then, there are major coincidences ... only time will tell if they were innocent happenstances or something different.


Star Member Me. (22,629 posts)

32. Excuse Me...He isn't A Real Democrat

He isn't even any type of Democrat by his say so.

Star Member scheming daemons (24,104 posts)

36. The big difference is that it was the *RW* that hated Obama.....which is a good thing

.... because it means Obama was on the right side of history.

In Bernie's case, it is the *Left* that is hating on him..... mainly because they feel he is sabotaging their chances to remove Trump from power.


Star Member Hekate (53,249 posts)

75. Smells like desperation on your part. Psst: BS is Not A Democrat.

Poor thing.


Farmer-Rick (1,883 posts)

83. That sounds so much like the Russian Troll crap that was being passed around

In 2016, crap like that on Hillary and Bernie was being thrown out from Russian Troll farms and, even here, people were just eating it up. They were passing it around and getting their "feeling" all tied up so they couldn't tell truth from lies.

And I think the Russian trolls are at it again. Be careful what you take as fact. You may "feel" he is sabotaging the Dems but I "feel" he is emphasizing their message. Feelings are a funny thing. They prevent clear thinking and are loved by manipulators, con artist and trolls everywhere.

It worked last time around, hating on Bernie and dividing the Democratic party. We got Trump. Hating on Bernie took a good chunk of liberal voters away from Hillary. The Bernie or bust voters didn't vote for Hillary and many voted for the Green party because they were angry at the Dems over hating on Bernie.

But I'm sure this time around it wont have the exact same results. I'm sure the Russian Trolls aren't instigating this like they did in 2016.

If we do it again during this upcoming election, you know, trash Bernie and get everyone feeling angry, I'm sure the Dems wont lose again because.....................


Star Member honest.abe (1,353 posts)

94. You must see the difference.

The crap about Obama was all totally fabricated.


-- Bernie has not released his tax returns (fact)
-- Bernie is not a Democrat (fact)

The other stuff you listed about Bernie I dont think anyone seriously believes any of that.

Honeycombe8 (32,980 posts)

99. Factually speaking, he is NOT a Democrat at all. He is an Independent who identifies as Socialist.

He is proudly an Independent who self-identifies as a Socialist. He has said so. He is NOT a Democrat. That's what Democrats remind everyone. They don't say he's not a "real" Democrat, because he's not a Democrat at all. That's just a factual statement.

He works against the Democrats in many instances. He is an activist with his own agenda. Sometimes that agenda conforms to the Democratic agenda, but sometimes it doesn't. He travels his own independent socialist path.

Star Member Autumn (33,050 posts)

125. Best words ever spoken... As for Jill Stein: She can go **** herself.

That and... **** Rand Paul.

BannonsLiver (4,812 posts)

116. The OP drips with white privilege

President Obama was hounded, obstructed and disrespected for 8 years by racist white conservatives. The idea that Bernie experienced anything close to that is offensive, tone deaf and oh yeah, completely ****ing ridiculous.

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Star Member Apollyonus (474 posts)

140. One MAJOR difference

President Obama did nothing to invite it.

On the other hand,

Bernie has participated in divisive rhetoric.
Bernie has damaged the Democratic nominee.
Bernie has refused to drop out and endorse the nominee when it was mathematically certain.
Bernie's supporters coordinated a booing of Democratic icons like John Lewis at the convention.
Bernie NEVER directed his supporters to disavow the Bernie-or-Bust movements. At least not in a very forceful, imperative way.
Bernie didn't in fact release his tax returns -- what is he hiding?
Bernie did not remain a Democrat - he went BACK to being an independent.

Bernie's supporters may see it as unfair -- but this manifestly suggests that Bernie should not run and if he runs, he throws his wholehearted support behind the eventual nominee. He also should remain a Democrat if he wants more love.


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Re: The Bernie-Hillary wars continue...
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2019, 05:41:19 PM »
I have seen quite a bit of in fighting over at DU of late and was reminded of this:

Psalm 55:9-15

9 Lord, confuse the wicked, confound their words, for I see violence and strife in the city. 10 Day and night they prowl about on its walls; malice and abuse are within it. 11 Destructive forces are at work in the city; threats and lies never leave its streets. 12 If an enemy were insulting me, I could endure it; if a foe were rising against me, I could hide. 13 But it is you, a man like myself, my companion, my close friend, 14 with whom I once enjoyed sweet fellowship at the house of God, as we walked about among the worshipers. 15 Let death take my enemies by surprise; let them go down alive to the realm of the dead, for evil finds lodging among them.

Confused and confounded would seem to be what the Democrats are all about these days.
Should one a man of wisdom meet
who points out faults and gives reproof,
who lays a hidden treasure bare,
with such a sage should one consort.
Consorting so is one enriched
and never in decline.

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Re: The Bernie-Hillary wars continue...
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2019, 05:49:52 PM »
Hillary cheated Bernie out of the primaries and bought him off with a new house.....

Yeah, I've always said it was a good thing Hilda knew how to cheat, and was willing to cheat.

Can you imagine America under the heel of the freeloading jackpiners?

Good time, good times.
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Re: The Bernie-Hillary wars continue...
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2019, 11:07:53 PM »
They are still fighting, eh.
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