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Offline dutch508

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Why didn't Nancy just lie?
« on: January 09, 2019, 08:08:48 PM »
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Star Member underpants (139,053 posts)
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Did Nancy make a mistake today?

 
Hear me out on this. I think she's played everything so well but...

According the news report I heard on NPR, at the meeting today Trump wanted to know if the government reopened could he get his wall money. Nancy, reportedly, said flat No. then Trump stormed out.

Based on that here's my question.

Should she have taken the re-Open without committing to the money?

Trump is screwed either way. Why not achieve your prime goal without really giving up anything?

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rufus dog (7,107 posts)

6. I am a bit confused

Are you suggesting she lie?

Take the open but not give the money in 30 days?

If that is the case think about the consequences.

1. tRump would claim victory
2. Many Dems, including me, would have been pissed off
3. The media would report how tRump won
4. Then she pulls back the money
5. tRump calls her out for the lie
6. The media calls her out for the lie and claims she is a weak on not to be trusted leader.

I really hope I am confused.

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Response to underpants (Original post)Wed Jan 9, 2019, 08:11 PM
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11. Well, that would have set her and Dems up to take the blame down the road

Mollify him now and be lambasted later when we refuse to let him have his wall. No, this way the subject is moot. There will be no wall, so it isn't even worth mentioning.

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18. Both Nancy (and I love her) and Chuck are missing golden opportunities to give out some critical

facts when they are on camera, especially when they are responding to Trump's tantrums. They could have pointed out that there is no "emergency" because illegal immigration from our southern border is at its lowest 12 years. They should have pointed out that Trump keeps saying that his administration is doing such a wonderful job at the border that's why the numbers are so low BUT all that good stuff is happening WITHOUT THE WALL that the GOP claims is so necessary. And further more, most of those children will be young adults by the time the wall that Trump says he wants can be finished.

And, to me, they need to make a bigger deal about employers, like Trump, who continue to hire undocumented workers while screaming about asylum seekers coming here for better jobs.

Maybe they should get AOC to help them get some energy into their talking points?

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demtenjeep (25,190 posts)

24. it is Madame Speaker and Senate Minority leader

you don't know them personally so don't use N and C



sorry-it is a pet peeve of mine

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NoMoreRepugs (2,032 posts)

25. My trust is in Madame Speaker.

Out maneuvering tRumpy mostly requires letting him talk and paint himself into a corner. Patience is in Madame Speakers toolbox.

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Response to underpants (Original post)Wed Jan 9, 2019, 08:53 PM
Star Member Wounded Bear (25,756 posts)

26. Pay attention to their rhetoric, it matters...

When Madam Speaker and the Sen Minority Leader came out, they said Trump asked for them to open the government if he approved the money for the wall. When she said, "No" he walked (stormed, ran) out.

When Pence and the Repubs came out, they said that Madam Speaker and the Min Leader turned down money for border security and the wall.

Perhaps a suble difference that the Rube-pubs will buy, but definitely an attempt at a rhetorical trick.

Who do you believe? IDK about you, but I certainly do not believe Trump or Pence.

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Star Member aikoaiko (28,519 posts)

28. I know what you mean...she could have replied that we'll talk after we reopen


Which is what she has been saying all along.

He probably would have still walked out.

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Re: Why didn't Nancy just lie?
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2019, 09:09:02 PM »
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Response to allgood33 (Reply #18)Wed Jan 9, 2019, 08:51 PM
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24. it is Madame Speaker and Senate Minority leader

you don't know them personally so don't use N and C

sorry-it is a pet peeve of mine

It's Stretch Pelosi and Chuck U. Schumer.  Choke on that, Poopy Pants.

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7. Oh good lord.

Do you check out the cosmetic weaknesses on the men too?
That must have been a comment about Stretch's Botoxed face.  I wish I could have seen it before it got disappeared.
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Re: Why didn't Nancy just lie?
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2019, 09:19:48 PM »
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24. it is Madame Speaker and Senate Minority leader
you don't know them personally so don't use N and C

sorry-it is a pet peeve of mine

and it's President Donald Trump, not that "mother****er" as that palestinian whore from michigan referred to him as last week.


sorry-it is a pet peeve of mine
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Re: Why didn't Nancy just lie?
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2019, 05:32:25 AM »
Isn't that what this Dims usually do? Say they'll do something and then don't do it.
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Re: Why didn't Nancy just lie?
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2019, 07:19:47 AM »
Saying no is the only time she wasn't lying. she is a veratable fountain of untruths. :thatsright:
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Re: Why didn't Nancy just lie?
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2019, 09:06:31 AM »
Miss Nancy's plastic surgeon told her the Botox would complicate further tongue-forking surgery.
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Re: Why didn't Nancy just lie?
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2019, 09:14:19 AM »
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6. The media calls her out for the lie and claims she is a weak on not to be trusted leader.
In what universe?
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Re: Why didn't Nancy just lie?
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2019, 09:13:16 AM »
My prediction is that regardless of how this ends the media will call it a win for the dims and sing praises to them.
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Re: Why didn't Nancy just lie?
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2019, 09:44:51 AM »
My prediction is that regardless of how this ends the media will call it a win for the dims and sing praises to them.

Ding ding ding!!!  We have a winner!
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Re: Why didn't Nancy just lie?
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2019, 04:49:07 PM »
To me the names those two, Nasty and UpChuck should be called that would best describe them would probably melt most peoples ears off.
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