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The Bernie wars are back on!
« on: December 18, 2018, 09:33:07 PM »
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Bernie tops progressive straw poll - Democracy for America

 
By DAVID SIDERS 12/18/2018 05:07 AM EST

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Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) tops the first 2020 straw poll by the progressive political action committee Democracy for America by a wide margin, followed by former Vice President Joe Biden and Rep. Beto O’Rourke (D-Texas).

The straw poll is more significant as a sign of organizational support than as a measure of public opinion. DFA boasts more than a million members, and after throwing its support from Warren to Sanders in 2016, it played an instrumental role in his unsuccessful presidential campaign.

Leading the field was Sanders, with 36 percent support. He was followed by Biden at 15 percent and O’Rourke at 12 percent. Warren and Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.), received 8 percent and 7 percent, respectively. No other potential candidate received more than 4 percent.

DFA said members cast more than 94,000 votes, ranking up to three potential candidates on each ballot. The poll ran Nov. 29 through Dec. 14, and results reflect only first-choice votes. The group polled 23 candidates, with write-ins accounting for nearly 5 percent of the vote, officials said.

“These results make clear that, while Bernie Sanders has a strong early lead, no single potential presidential candidate has full command of the Democratic Party’s progressive base heading into 2019,” the group’s incoming chief executive, Yvette Simpson, said in a prepared statement. “With more than 14 months before Iowa, we expect these results to change as grassroots progressives hear the messages the candidates are running on, see the campaigns executing on the ground, and watch them construct the broad-based coalition of the New American Majority of people of color and white progressive voters it will take to beat Donald Trump.”

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/18/bernie-sanders-straw-poll-2020-elections-1067867

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https://poll.democracyforamerica.com/results/

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Tue Dec 18, 2018, 07:13 AM
Star Member Laurian (2,396 posts)

3. Oh, please......

Sick to death of the (non-Democrat) Bernie promotions. As far as I’m concerned, he and people like Nina Turner were a large part of the 2016 problem. I could never support him.

... and that's one of the nicer posts...

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7. Yeah, go Bernie...

 Away.           
 

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Jim Lane (11,133 posts)

43. Yes, we must begin our preparations for 2020 by purging those 13 million people

After all, the only possible reasons for their voting against the most qualified candidate in history were that they were purists and/or misogynists. About 90% of them then voted for her in the general election, but no matter, let's purge them. We can win without them. We'll just spot the Republicans more than 10 million votes and win anyway.

SMH             
     

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  Star Member R B Garr (11,180 posts)

50. Actually, we must begin our preparations by acknowledging

the now proven facts that lying about Democrats is what got us here, and if calling out liars is “purging”, then there is more to be gained than lost. Look how you ignore that it only took 70,000 people nation-wide to believe the lies about Hillary, it wasn’t 13 million like you are falsely conflating... SMH                   

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19. Progressive group Democracy for America lines up squarely behind Bernie Sanders

Washington Post 2015

I'm shocked. lol. They are an outreach arm for his campaign.

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22. They are the organization that began sending me emails in Sanders' name....

....in December 2015, the day after Sanders' IT people accessed the DNC database, pleading for money.

I wonder where they got my email address? Certainly not from me!

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Tue Dec 18, 2018, 02:37 PM
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95. Bernie would've won 2016.

I'd be very surprised if he gets the nomination. But I'd be even more surprised if, once nominated, he lost to Trump. Match up polls had him at 10%-15% ahead of Trump quite consistently (the same polls always put Clinton at 3-5% ahead of Trump). Bernie's not changed much since then (the duration of his political consistency is one of his strongest points). And a lot of what he warned us about has since come true.

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Tue Dec 18, 2018, 10:05 AM
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33. Here we go

Divide and conquer!! That's what RUSSIA wants AGAIN!! Common people only a DEMOCRAT keep saying this!! only a DEMOCRAT!!! THAT is the ONLY way we win in 2020!!!

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SFnomad (2,917 posts)

35. Democracy for America? Is that a Russian website? n/t

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Yosemito (165 posts)

46. He won it in 2016 too

Think of the three little piggies when you hear "straw" poll.
We all know what happened to the straw house.

well, we do know Hillary conspired with the DNC to throw the primary to Hillary over Sanders...

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Jim Lane (11,133 posts)

68. There does seem to be a very vocal "purge" faction on DU.

Two thoughts to cheer you up: First, out in the real world, there's not nearly so much visceral Bernie-bashing. If Bernie had won the nomination, Hillary Clinton would have endorsed him, just as he endorsed her. Each candidate had a few supporters who hated the other candidate. Bernie took some flak from them for endorsing Hillary, and she would have been similarly attacked if the tables were turned, but the vast majority of people on both sides of the divide transcend such pettiness.

Second, even on DU, I suspect that we actually are more welcoming of his supporters than this thread suggests. My personal guess is that the most vocal Bernie-bashers tend to post a lot more on this subject than does the average member. This thread may be a cross-section from the small end of the log.

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103. Over a hundred replies ...

... over 1100 views - and only 10 Recs.

'Nuf said.

Oh, STFU, you drunken old hag...
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Re: The Bernie wars are back on!
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2018, 10:06:39 PM »
Does this mean DU having a comeback?
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Re: The Bernie wars are back on!
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2018, 01:25:53 AM »
Well, I personally would have no problem if they did this:

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.....Yes, we must begin our preparations for 2020 by purging those 13 million people.....

Democrats: A bunch of rich people convincing poor people to vote for rich people by telling poor people that other rich people are the reason they are poor

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Re: The Bernie wars are back on!
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2018, 08:10:56 AM »
Viva la revolucion!  No pasaran!

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Re: The Bernie wars are back on!
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2018, 08:16:33 AM »
Viva la revolucion!  No pasaran!

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Re: The Bernie wars are back on!
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2018, 08:23:22 AM »
Bernie & Biden 2020

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Re: The Bernie wars are back on!
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2018, 08:33:11 AM »
I'll be honest, Bernie scares me.  Thank God he'll be older than dirt come 2020, but there's enough DUmbfu*ks out there that want everything given to them for doing nothing he could win.  The under 35 generation is a major disappointment.  My own SIL is practically a socialist.  He works, but wants the taxpayers to pay off all his student loans.

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Re: The Bernie wars are back on!
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2018, 08:34:31 AM »
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43. Yes, we must begin our preparations for 2020 by purging those 13 million people

Wow. That asshole just went full Stalin.

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Re: The Bernie wars are back on!
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2018, 08:48:50 AM »
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43. Yes, we must begin our preparations for 2020 by purging those 13 million people

After all, the only possible reasons for their voting against the most qualified candidate in history were that they were purists and/or misogynists. About 90% of them then voted for her in the general election, but no matter, let's purge them. We can win without them. We'll just spot the Republicans more than 10 million votes and win anyway.

SMH

Wow. That asshole just went full Stalin.

You never go full Stalin!

Actually, I take his post as mocking DU's purge-minded members.

My low-information take on the current D Herd of Possibilities is that unlike 2007/2008 and 2015/2016, there is no Party- or MSM-anointed D candidate-hopeful. If DUpipo don't keep in mind that a bit of rough-and-tumble between now and ~May, 2020 should be seen as normal, they could get pretty :catfight: y.
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Re: The Bernie wars are back on!
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2018, 10:00:45 AM »
So the DUmmy is placing all his hope in an old white guy.  How progressive of him...
Trump Won.  Get over it!

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Re: The Bernie wars are back on!
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2018, 10:30:13 AM »
Wow. That asshole just went full Stalin.

You never go full Stalin!

I read that as Jim telling them they were stomping on their wieners, but with the DUmmorrhoids I guess you can never assume common sense.
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Re: The Bernie wars are back on!
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2018, 10:59:45 AM »
Wow. That asshole just went full Stalin.

You never go full Stalin!

I'm sure most here would enjoy a bloody Demo civil war, and yeah, that would be nice.

Myself though, I'm more in favor of total liquidation of the primitives supporting the hoary old white-haired sourassed sourpuss crank from Vermont and his thieving wife, than I am of a possible Demo civil war that would benefit this side.

There are some people who simply don't need to be using up our oxygen.

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Re: The Bernie wars are back on!
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2018, 11:18:56 AM »
I'll be honest, Bernie scares me.  Thank God he'll be older than dirt come 2020, but there's enough DUmbfu*ks out there that want everything given to them for doing nothing he could win. The under 35 generation is a major disappointment.  My own SIL is practically a socialist.  He works, but wants the taxpayers to pay off all his student loans.

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Re: The Bernie wars are back on!
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2018, 11:53:39 AM »
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.....Yes, we must begin our preparations for 2020 by purging those 13 million people.....

Yes siree, a most excellent idea!! That will be 13 million less democrat / socialist's voting  next election.  :-)
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Re: The Bernie wars are back on!
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2018, 04:20:46 PM »
They keep bringing up Russia, but somehow a senator ( kennedy) actually contacted them (with evidence!) And is one of the greatest Democrats ever
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20. absolute bullshit. the cave is unspeakably vile.

I don't know how any of you can live with yourselves.

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Re: The Bernie wars are back on!
« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2018, 12:34:46 AM »
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Those threads are always so funny...
Dropping a bernie thread over there is like pulling a grenade pin over there

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Re: The Bernie wars are back on!
« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2018, 01:16:52 PM »

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After all, the only possible reasons for their voting against the most qualified candidate in history


 And you idiots wonder why/how Trump won........
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Re: The Bernie wars are back on!
« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2018, 07:44:27 PM »
The top three contenders at this point are Beto, Bernie, and Biden.  Three white guys.  This us UNSAT.  One of them has to come out as Transgender.  I suggest Biden as he already has had a couple holes drilled in his head and would seem a natural cross dresser.  He could then run with Beto the wanna be beaner as VP.  Win Win.  Bernie, of course, would be shut out but he is use to rejection by now. :whatever:  :rotf:
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