primitives shifting attention from war with Iran to war with Russia

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3837077

Oh my.

I wondered when the primitives were going to get tired of the war-with-Iran thing.

inanna  Donating Member  (474 posts) Fri Aug-22-08 10:32 AM
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Should we be worried?
   
From this Wired 'Danger Room' report:

U.S. Warships Run the Gauntlet with Georgia Aid

The U.S. Air Force flew its first planeful of medical supplies to Georgia more than a week ago. Now the U.S. Navy is getting in on the humanitarian action, sending a flotilla of at least three American ships plus some friends via the Black Sea to deliver more aid to Georgia. What's interesting is the mix of ships involved.

As we speak, the USS Kearsarge assault ship is sailing alone in Latin America, totally unescorted, on its own humanitarian mission. Captain Walter Towns said he feels "pretty secure." The Georgia flotilla, by contrast, is stacked with heavily-armed warships. The vanguard includes the Burke-class destroyer McFaul (pictured)and the armed Coast Guard cutter Dallas. (Another Dallas, a nuclear submarine , is also in the area.)

<snip>

Update 14:33 EST: Uh-oh: "Russian forces took up positions Thursday at the entrance to Georgia's main Black Sea port city of Poti, excavating trenches, setting up mortars and blocking a key bridge with armored personnel carriers and trucks," the AP reports.

http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/08/us-warships-run.h...

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NATO ships are also in the Black Sea right now as part of some kind of "exercise."

RethugAssKicker  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-22-08 10:49 AM
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1. Yes, we should..The US is provoking Russia.
   
This is all a game plan that Bush wants to lead to confrontation.

The ass-kissing primitive must be able to read George Bush's mind, or something.

alyce douglas  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-22-08 11:21 AM
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2. Yes, we should instead of us focusing on how many houses a candidate has or who will someone pick as their VP, Cheney is working his mastermind sick plan. Poland was pushed into the Missile shield defense system, by the US proking the Georgia invasion, made Poland take a second look, Poland was against this shield at one time, did Cheney give them an offer that they couldn't refuse, and what's happening in Iran, and Israel wondering when they get the order to attack Iran, am I going on and on let me stop now.

You know, I've been observing the Alice primitive for some time now, trying to discern if the source of her problem is poor bowel management (like, for example, Pedro Picasso), or some messed-up hardware in those things that make her a woman (like, for example, the dysmenopausal Kansas school teacher).

I suspect it's the latter, but I'm not sure yet.

inanna  Donating Member  (474 posts) Fri Aug-22-08 11:31 AM
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3. Russia blocks Georgia's main port city
   
POTI, Georgia (AP) — Russian forces dug trenches and built fortifications in key areas of Georgia Thursday, but also rolled columns of tanks north toward home, picking and choosing how their nation would comply with the terms of a peace accord.

<snip>

In a move sure to heighten tensions, a U.S. Navy guided missile destroyer loaded with humanitarian aid was heading to Georgia — the first of three U.S. Navy ships that will carry supplies such as blankets, hygiene kits and baby food to Georgia. The United States has also delivered aid to Tbilisi on 20 flights since Aug. 19.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gDNLWfQWKrQc48pITBUg...

I'm keeping a very close eye on this situation as it develops.

[TheSarge]

1. Yes, we should..The US is provoking Russia.
   
This is all a game plan that Bush wants to lead to confrontation.

And if we were doing nothing this DUmmie would be the first to claim that W is in collusion w/ The Russians and this was just part of their evil plan to conquer the world.

[asdf2231]

We may just yet find out how those T-80's with the slow autoloaders perform against REAL tanks.

[BlueStateSaint]

We may just yet find out how those T-80's with the slow autoloaders perform against REAL tanks.

Something I, as a cavalry officer in the late 80s, wasn't too eager to find out.

[dutch508]

We may just yet find out how those T-80's with the slow autoloaders perform against REAL tanks.

Something I, as a cavalry officer in the late 80s, wasn't too eager to find out.

Imagine our surprise in 1991 when we found they explode on contact like a ****ing Pinto.

[GOBUCKS]

inanna  Donating Member  (474 posts) Fri Aug-22-08 11:31 AM
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3. Russia blocks Georgia's main port city
   
POTI, Georgia (AP) — Russian forces dug trenches and built fortifications in key areas of Georgia Thursday, but also rolled columns of tanks north toward home, picking and choosing how their nation would comply with the terms of a peace accord.

<snip>

In a move sure to heighten tensions, a U.S. Navy guided missile destroyer loaded with humanitarian aid was heading to Georgia — the first of three U.S. Navy ships that will carry supplies such as blankets, hygiene kits and baby food to Georgia. The United States has also delivered aid to Tbilisi on 20 flights since Aug. 19.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gDNLWfQWKrQc48pITBUg...

I'm keeping a very close eye on this situation as it develops.

 

Thank goodness. I don't know about you, but this makes me feel more secure. DUmmy inanna - ever vigilant in defense of freedom.
   
 

[Tantal]

1. Yes, we should..The US is provoking Russia.
   
This is all a game plan that Bush wants to lead to confrontation.

And if we were doing nothing this DUmmie would be the first to claim that W is in collusion w/ The Russians and this was just part of their evil plan to conquer the world.

Exactly. Bush could offer Universal Health Care to the entire world, give a "free" education to the entire world, abolish the military completely, increase welfare by 3000%, and create a car that ran on noting but air with ZERO carbon emissions.........and they'd STILL hate him.

[USA4ME]

alyce douglas

Yes, we should instead of us focusing on how many houses a candidate has or who will someone pick as their VP, Cheney is working his mastermind sick plan.

So the "Clinton was never vetted as VP" story is to distract us from the "Housegate" story which is to distract us from the "Bush/Cheney are trying to start a war with Russia" story.   

I've got a headache.

.

[jukin]

Shit like this is why people should have jobs.

[Splashdown]

Shit like this is why people should have jobs.

I have baked beans all over my screen, but hi-5 anyway! 

[BlueStateSaint]

We may just yet find out how those T-80's with the slow autoloaders perform against REAL tanks.

Something I, as a cavalry officer in the late 80s, wasn't too eager to find out.

Imagine our surprise in 1991 when we found they explode on contact like a ****ing Pinto.

I know.  I remember talking to a friend of mine, who was the S-2 of 3rd Squadron of 3rd ACR at the time (Desert Storm).  I remember him telling me that, at 1600 meters, an M1A1 was able to throw the turret of a T-72 30 feet into the air--with a HEAT round!  I stood on the phone absolutely stunned at what he told me.  I said back to him, "You were told the same stuff that I was--that wasn't supposed to . . . that shouldn't happen!"  His response was, "I know, but I saw it happen--about twelve times."  Turns out that, when the "cease-fire" was called, a lot of the Iraqi equipment was just sitting in the desert with no crews or places to go.  So, 3rd ACR decided to have an impromptu gunnery exercise with the real thing as targets.

[Duke Nukum]

RethugAssKicker  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-22-08 10:49 AM
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1. Yes, we should..The US is provoking Russia.
   
This is all a game plan that Bush wants to lead to confrontation.

I think it's the Olympics that provoke the Russians.  Or maybe it's just the Olympics taking place in a communist country.

What is it with the Russians and invading other countries when a communist country hosts the Olympics?  Is the javelin event too close to state missile secrets? The discus too much like Soviet stealth technology?

[dutch508]

We may just yet find out how those T-80's with the slow autoloaders perform against REAL tanks.

Something I, as a cavalry officer in the late 80s, wasn't too eager to find out.

Imagine our surprise in 1991 when we found they explode on contact like a ******* Pinto.

I know.  I remember talking to a friend of mine, who was the S-2 of 3rd Squadron of 3rd ACR at the time (Desert Storm).  I remember him telling me that, at 1600 meters, an M1A1 was able to throw the turret of a T-72 30 feet into the air--with a HEAT round!  I stood on the phone absolutely stunned at what he told me.  I said back to him, "You were told the same stuff that I was--that wasn't supposed to . . . that shouldn't happen!"  His response was, "I know, but I saw it happen--about twelve times."  Turns out that, when the "cease-fire" was called, a lot of the Iraqi equipment was just sitting in the desert with no crews or places to go.  So, 3rd ACR decided to have an impromptu gunnery exercise with the real thing as targets.

Longest kill I saw was at 2600. Towards the end we took a whole tank battalion prisoner. They just left their tanks wehre they were dug in and walked away. I got to talk to a couple of the officers. Their comment was, "We knew when the Americans were coming when our tanks just started to blow up."

Talk to quiet a few my last tour over. They ahd the same stories in '03 that we'd heard in '91. They wouldn't even see us when we began to engage.

1st Brigade, 1st ID. I drove the BDES3's HMMWV. Didn't see a gawd-damm thing except dust.

[rich_t]

We may just yet find out how those T-80's with the slow autoloaders perform against REAL tanks.

Something I, as a cavalry officer in the late 80s, wasn't too eager to find out.

Imagine our surprise in 1991 when we found they explode on contact like a ******* Pinto.

I know.  I remember talking to a friend of mine, who was the S-2 of 3rd Squadron of 3rd ACR at the time (Desert Storm).  I remember him telling me that, at 1600 meters, an M1A1 was able to throw the turret of a T-72 30 feet into the air--with a HEAT round!  I stood on the phone absolutely stunned at what he told me.  I said back to him, "You were told the same stuff that I was--that wasn't supposed to . . . that shouldn't happen!"  His response was, "I know, but I saw it happen--about twelve times."  Turns out that, when the "cease-fire" was called, a lot of the Iraqi equipment was just sitting in the desert with no crews or places to go.  So, 3rd ACR decided to have an impromptu gunnery exercise with the real thing as targets.

Longest kill I saw was at 2600. Towards the end we took a whole tank battalion prisoner. They just left their tanks wehre they were dug in and walked away. I got to talk to a couple of the officers. Their comment was, "We knew when the Americans were coming when our tanks just started to blow up."

Talk to quiet a few my last tour over. They ahd the same stories in '03 that we'd heard in '91. They wouldn't even see us when we began to engage.

1st Brigade, 1st ID. I drove the BDES3's HMMWV. Didn't see a gawd-damm thing except dust.

hoo ahh!!

[PatriotGame]

RethugAssKicker  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-22-08 10:49 AM
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1. Yes, we should..The US is provoking Russia.
   
This is all a game plan that Bush wants to lead to confrontation.

He He He...our sinister plan is working out quite nicely:

[Crazy Horse]

What idjits...................what should we be sending Al Bore's 100' houseboat???

As we speak, the USS Kearsarge assault ship is sailing alone in Latin America, totally unescorted, on its own humanitarian mission. Captain Walter Towns said he feels "pretty secure." The Georgia flotilla, by contrast, is stacked with heavily-armed warships. The vanguard includes the Burke-class destroyer McFaul (pictured)and the armed Coast Guard cutter Dallas. (Another Dallas, a nuclear submarine , is also in the area.)

I know the idjits are dumb about military equipment.

Georgian flotilla

Let's see a DDG................1 5"54 gun, ~90 missles, 1 SH-60
Puddle Pirate Cutter...........5"54, 1-JH-60

USS Kearsarge sailing alone

Let's see................................CH-46~30
                                              AV-8B~6
                                               AH-1~6
                                              MH-53~5
                                                 V-22~?
                                               SH-60~2
                                                H-1~2

Oh yeah and 2,000 of the Proud...................So yeah.........the Kearsarge should feel kinda safe