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primitive urging false reporting
« on: October 02, 2018, 05:39:38 AM »
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Oh my.

The primitive doesn't say so, but we know exactly what he's suggesting.

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SuprstitionAintthWay (11 posts)     Tue Oct 2, 2018, 06:21 AM

PHYSICALLY GO TO AN FBI FIELD OFFICE AND INSIST ON REPORTING IF YOU HAVE INFORMATION ON KAV.

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I sent the below to Greg Sargent at the Post, Gail Collins at the Times, Rachel's show, and CNN. Trump is playing word games and lying about the latitude the FBI has while he runs out the clock on his sham investigation. I wrote the below before his supposed relaxing of the restrictions Monday, but my opinion hasn't changed. I notice we still haven't seen either set of Trump's orders to the FBI. Until we do, assume Trump's lying and the background investigation is still on a severely tight leash. WaPo says the restrictions are "slightly" less than they were, but they don't know how or how much. And what they were was a farce: 4 people, 3 of whom were already on record as remembering nothing, and the 4th already on record as denying everything. 

If McConnell holds a final vote Friday, then 3 of the 6 days the FBI has are already gone. Witnesses against Kavanaugh need to FORCE their statements into this outrageous "process."

This is how to do that.

Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 6:32 PM 
To: rachel@msnbc.com 
Subject: Fw: Publicize a way to get Kav reports into FBI records anyway 

Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 6:01 PM 
To: sargentg@washpost.com 
Subject: Publicize a way to get Kav reports into FBI records anyway 

Hi Greg: 

I think this workaround will work; check with your Bureau sources about whether it will. 

Do your best to get the word out, FAST, that if you have relevant info on Kavanaugh or Mark Judge, to not call the FBI and wait for a call back, because that's probably been specifically prohibited by McCabe and Trump until the 7 days are up. 

Tell people to instead PHYSICALLY GO TO AN FBI OFFICE, tell them you're there to REPORT A FEDERAL CRIME, and then sit in their damn lobby and refuse to leave until a SPECIAL AGENT TAKES YOUR REPORT. 

INSIST you want to report the crime RIGHT THERE AND THEN, and don't let them put you off. Because they probably will if you let them, Christopher Wray is almost surely under presidential orders to essentially run out the clock on this background investigation (BI) extension. 

Thursday Sep. 27, 2018 Brett Kavanaugh committed maybe 100 federal crimes. He lied under oath to Congress about that many times, and everybody witnessed it. Whichever lie he told that a person has specific knowledge is false, is the federal crime to report there in the FBI field office. 

And again, you must INSIST on reporting what you know to be a federal crime, based on whatever information you have that is contrary to his lie. Be prepared for the field office agents to try to not take the report, by saying it falls under a BI that a special team of agents is doing and you'd need to report it directly to them. Well, that special BI team of agents are not going to talk to you until after Friday, if then.   

So INSIST. There has been a federal crime committed, and you insist on reporting what you know about it, right then and there. 

Stay until you do. 

Ask for a photocopy of the statement you sign. 

Take the special agent's name. I believe they're required to submit it within 24 hours of receiving the report. Ask to be emailed and mailed a copy of it. 

When you leave, immediately send all of the particulars to the Democratic senator of your choice. And to the Washington Post, New York Times, New Yorker, CNN, MSNBC, Guardian, and whatever other media of your choice. Probably the FBI will instruct you not to disclose your report to anybody... "ongoing investigation" and all that. I'd do it anyway and take my chances, because to not will probably be to have accomplished nothing. 

If everyone who knows factually about a Kavanaugh lie to Congress does this immediately, we can at least get the reports physically into the FBI somewhere. And Democratic senators, the principled media, and the American public hopefully can successfully demand that the reports be taken into account before a final vote to confirm Kavanaugh.   

I hope this works. We are in a fast-moving constitutional crisis created by a dishonest authoritarian president and his Republican senator co-conspirators. The White House is in the position to make Christopher Wray run out the clock while avoiding any new negative information about Kavanaugh in a sham of a BI. And we need to do everything can to counter this, right NOW. 

Thank you
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Re: primitive urging false reporting
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2018, 06:28:00 AM »
Quote from: franksolich on October 02, 2018, 05:39:38 AM
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211220893

Oh my.

The primitive doesn't say so, but we know exactly what he's suggesting.

I don't suppose it ever occurred to the dummie that filing a false report with the FBI is a crime.
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Re: primitive urging false reporting
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2018, 07:22:23 AM »
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SuprstitionAintthWay (11 posts)     Tue Oct 2, 2018, 06:21 AM

PHYSICALLY GO TO AN FBI FIELD OFFICE AND INSIST ON REPORTING IF YOU HAVE INFORMATION ON KAV.
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I sent the below to Greg Sargent at the Post, Gail Collins at the Times, Rachel's show, and CNN.

Quote from: Patriot Guard Rider on October 02, 2018, 06:28:00 AM
I don't suppose it ever occurred to the dummie that filing a false report with the FBI is a crime.

I kind of hope not. Further expose the Ds' delay game, DUpipo modeling orange jumpsuits on the runways of the GrayBar Hotel ...  a win-win situation!
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Re: primitive urging false reporting
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2018, 07:48:32 AM »
Quote from: Patriot Guard Rider on October 02, 2018, 06:28:00 AM
I don't suppose it ever occurred to the dummie that filing a false report with the FBI is a crime.

So as to not be a total waste of time while they are in the FBI waiting room they should change the channel on the TV from Fox to PMSNBC and hide the remote.
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Re: primitive urging false reporting
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2018, 08:12:27 AM »
The same Trump who has angered the FBI by pointing out they are conducting a witch hunt against him now has enough influence within the Dept to lessen or stall an investigation?

For the millionth time, I do wish the primitives would decide.

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Re: primitive urging false reporting
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2018, 09:12:12 AM »
I just wish they could do basic math.  The background check was ordered last Friday, and was to last one week.  The floor vote is scheduled for this Friday, one week later.  One week is seven days.  Where are they getting this "3 of six days allotted" BS?

I guess it's supposed to be 168 business hours...
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Re: primitive urging false reporting
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2018, 09:26:42 AM »
Quote from: docstew on October 02, 2018, 09:12:12 AM
I just wish they could do basic math.  The background check was ordered last Friday, and was to last one week.  The floor vote is scheduled for this Friday, one week later.  One week is seven days.  Where are they getting this "3 of six days allotted" BS?

I guess it's supposed to be 168 business hours...

The irony is that Feinstein could have turned over that Ford letter 6 weeks ago and had a much longer investigation but decided to hold it like a trump card.
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Re: primitive urging false reporting
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2018, 09:32:38 AM »
Quote from: 67 Rover on October 02, 2018, 09:26:42 AM
The irony is that Feinstein could have turned over that Ford letter 6 weeks ago and had a much longer investigation but decided to hold it like a trump card.

Goal-Post-Chasing games have been the Ds' plan since Kennedy announced his retirement.
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Re: primitive urging false reporting
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2018, 09:41:00 AM »
Quote from: 67 Rover on October 02, 2018, 09:26:42 AM
The irony is that Feinstein could have turned over that Ford letter 6 weeks ago and had a much longer investigation but decided to hold it like a trump card.

But that investigation would have been quietly held (if possible) without the spectacle of televised hearings. That's the last thing democraps would have wanted in this politically charged environment.
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Re: primitive urging false reporting
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2018, 09:57:51 AM »
Quote from: 67 Rover on October 02, 2018, 07:48:32 AM
So as to not be a total waste of time while they are in the FBI waiting room they should change the channel on the TV from Fox to PMSNBC and hide the remote.

 :rofl:  Winner of the internet so far today.
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Re: primitive urging false reporting
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2018, 10:35:35 AM »
It's interesting that the DUpipo calling for false reports to the FBI - and fake calls to Congress Critter falsely claiming to be constituents (BigPig's claim to fame) - don't realize that the Ford and Ramirez false accusations are probably the fruit of a similar (but not public) call for false accusers. Not that DUpipo really care about truth.
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Re: primitive urging false reporting
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2018, 04:43:42 PM »
Really smart to post such a thing as pulling this type of prank.  Don't be shocked when the FBI comes knocking.  Smartest site on the internet, folks.
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Re: primitive urging false reporting
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2018, 08:47:08 PM »
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SuprstitionAintthWay (11 posts)     Tue Oct 2, 2018, 06:21 AM

PHYSICALLY GO TO AN FBI FIELD OFFICE AND INSIST ON REPORTING IF YOU HAVE INFORMATION ON KAV.

[Ah, FINALLY I have my 10 introductory replies done and can make this a thread!]

Seriously guys,  Who's mole is this?
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