the Tobe says it's very sad

[franksolich]

https://www.democraticunderground.com/11518570

Oh my.

The mantra-chanting overall-wearing big-bellied Guatama Buddha Tobe.

Tobin S. (9,843 posts)     Thu Apr 19, 2018, 03:13 AM

Intellectual laziness, stubborn ignorance, and the false self.

I think most people in America stop growing and learning intellectually after they get out of school. For a majority of Americans that means when they are 18. They might get a little wiser over the years if they learn from life experience, but when it comes to the exploration of ideas, they just shut down after high school. They might work hard jobs that require physical labor, but their interior lives are marked by intellectual laziness and an abhorrence for new ideas that might cast some light over the ignorance that prevails. If you want to learn you have to be open to being taught. Many people are just too stubborn for that. They hang on to their ignorance and erroneous ways of thinking to their graves.

It's very sad when you see this kind of thing in the people that you love.

My nature is to try to understand the world and the people in it. If I don't understand something, I learn about it. It just seems foolish to me to live in the world essentially cut off from everyone else. But that's what it's like in this country now. Most people are so closed off from each other that they are even closed off to themselves. This isolation of the psyche leads people to believe that they are something that they are not. Their true selves languish in obscurity and rarely see the light of day. And when the self does surface people are so surprised by it that that they don't think it's real. I firmly believe that our true beings reside in compassion and love. There is no room for hate and selfishness in the self. But most people are essentially selfish. Then what are they? They are a false construct that they have mistaken to be their true beings. Trump is the epitome of that. He is not real. He is not true to his being, and that state of mind is a product of America.

Hypertensive ol' Bob:

TheMastersNemesis (9,997 posts)      Thu Apr 19, 2018, 04:55 AM

2. We Live In An Intellectual Vacuums. Lack Of Curiosity Is Pervasive.

I play a lot of golf and am always looking for ways I could improve. I have had a swing fault for years that I Keep trying to fix. I am surprised by golfers and even golfers I know that have little curiosity about how swings work and how many style of swings there are. I am also surprise at how many people I play with keep trying to get better making the same mistakes they are already making. Or how incurious they are about what they might do about how they play.

Of course I see a lack of curiosity in many levels and not just something like golf. I see little interest in exploring anything new. And politically I see ignorance and stubbornness on a scale I could have never imagined. I see people losing benefits voting for politicians who DIRECTLY saying to them I am going to take away YOUR benefit.

So go figure.

Yeah, yeah, sure, sure, Bob.

[freedumb2003b]

I think most people in America stop growing and learning intellectually after they get out of school. For a majority of Americans that means when they are 18.

Liberals, yeah.  That is why they are liberals.  At 18 the thinking is "everyone deserves everything - and most importantly **I** deserve everything."  It isn't until you grow up and learn abour work/risk/reward that true growth happens.

The OP is confusing repeating talking points from echo chambers and their masters with "learning."

[SVPete]

TheMastersNemesis (9,997 posts)      Thu Apr 19, 2018, 04:55 AM

2. We Live In An Intellectual Vacuums. Lack Of Curiosity Is Pervasive.

Says the hate-driven fool that rails against people about whom he knows less than nothing.

[USA4ME]

Star Member Tobin S.

Intellectual laziness, stubborn ignorance, and the false self.

I think most people in America stop growing and learning intellectually after they get out of school. But like all DUers, I started much earlier than that.

Fixed

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[Ralph Wiggum]

Why don't you a*s-clowns realize that the dumbing down of our culture is a big part of the problem?  Idolizing celebrities that have done zero for society. 

A worthless exercise of the frivolous crap leftists obsess over.

[I_B_Perky]

Tubbs cut and pasted that drivel. No way did his fat ass come up with any of that.

[BattleHymn]

Tubbs cut and pasted that drivel. No way did his fat ass come up with any of that.

Oh, I don't know.  It looks like classic Tubby Tobin to me, which is to say the meandering drivel and tortured thoughts of a steering wheel holder who finds solace in shrieking at himself while barrel-assing down the road. 

[SVPete]

Tubbs cut and pasted that drivel. No way did his fat ass come up with any of that.

You aren't buying the ToBuddha bit? DU already has Rock-Moses, so why not ToBuddha too?

[Old n Grumpy]

You mean keeping up with the kardishians is not intellectually stimulating?    OMG!!

Or reading the profanity laced drivel on du is not either?

[franksolich]

You aren't buying the ToBuddha bit? DU already has Rock-Moses, so why not ToBuddha too?

Guatama Tobe is pretty typical of "religious" (quotation marks sarcastic) primitives dealing with a "spiritual" (quotation marks sarcastic) crisis.

The Tobe, who grew up in the rustic backwoods of Georgia, its culture and the temperament of its people heavily infuenced by whatever relgious denomination dominates down there, instead of seeking solace and answers in the faith that sustained and nourished his people, tries to find solace and answers in a religion, although of course ancient and legitmate, that's totally alien to his culture and his individual nature.

I've never known of anyone from a western culture to truly grasp Buddhism, not even the scholarly Sir Christmas Humprheys (real name) or whatever-her-name-was, Annie Besant.  And if they couldn't "get it," neither can Atman.....or the Tobe.

Only those of Asian derivation, born and raised in an Asian culture, can truly understand Buddhism; best for people in other cultures to look around for something else that better suits them.  If the Tobe really and truly wants to solve his personal problems, and wishes to do so by a spiritual awakening, best for him to return to the faith that animated his forefathers, a faith he has the ability to understand.

[diesel driver]

TheMastersNemesis (9,997 posts)      Thu Apr 19, 2018, 04:55 AM

2. We Live In An Intellectual Vacuums. Lack Of Curiosity Is Pervasive.

Sounds like the Gorebull Warming crowd...

[Old n Grumpy]

I've never known of anyone from a western culture to truly grasp Buddhism,

Maybe so, but it just sounds so cool when you tell people you are a Buddhist

Like you are one of the "special" enlightened ones.

[franksolich]

Maybe so, but it just sounds so cool when you tell people you are a Buddhist

Like you are one of the "special" enlightened ones.

All of those of western or European derivation who've claimed to be Buddhist or Shintoist or one of these other Asian religions, whom I've known personally and well, always struck me as being that simply because it was "different," not because they had any "need" or longing for it.  They just wanted to be "different," that's all. 

It's not really a good excuse to adopt a religion.

[Tess Anderson]

yeah, I have noticed that a lot of them (Cali among others) are attracted to these Eastern religions, look at DUmmy "demgurl":

Religion:Buddhist/Taoist

  warniing this site is pretty out there but this is her:

http://datingmw.com/profile/yknottnc?dcb=datingmw.com&non_mobile=1&showerotic_photo=1

wait, SHE's circumcised???? These people . . .

[franksolich]

.....I have noticed that a lot of them (Cali among others) are attracted to these Eastern religions.....

Yeah, the bitter old Vermontese cali primitive was always amusing in that way.

Buddhism, as properly understood by those of Asian derivation and out of an Asian culture, advocates serenity and love of others.

But nobody could hate better, more vigorously, than cali--George Bush, pro-life people, Republicans, and the like.

I always suspected--the signs were all there--cali was Buddhist not because its beliefs and practices attracted her, but simply because she wished to be a "rebel" against convention and normality (in her case, probably a Judaic background); anything to offend, to trouble, her parents and other decent and civilized people.