Check out a DUmmie admitting to a crime!

[Texacon]

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GOP Idiot Evan Siegfried ‏ lied about David Hogg and guns

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This moron claimed on MSNBC that David Hogg is a liar and that domestic abusers can not buy guns


Evan Siegfried
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@evansiegfried
 Fact check: Domestic abusers, even those convicted of misdemeanors, are barred from gun ownership. The question now is about enforcement of the law, which is painfully lax. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/06/us/politics/domestic-abuse-guns-texas-air-force.html … https://twitter.com/rhonda_harbison/status/980160124760346624 …
2:18 PM - Mar 31, 2018
Senator Frank Lautenberg, Democrat of New Jersey, displaying an AR-15 military-style rifle at a news conference on Capitol Hill in 1999. Three years earlier, Mr. Lautenberg helped make it illegal for anyone convicted of domestic abuse to buy a firearm.
Domestic Abusers Are Barred From Gun Ownership, but Often Escape the Law
In 1996, domestic abusers were legally barred from owning a gun, yet a large percentage of


This idiot has evidently never heard of the gun show loophole where anyone including domestic abusers can buy a gun because there are no background checks

This idiot attacked David Hogg because the right wing assholes are getting the butts kicked. I hate it when a right wing asshole makes a lie and is not challenged.

Oh these people are stupid, but check this out!

mr_lebowski
11. Then these are gun show(s) where they're allowing in private sellers ...
I didn't say this never happens, I said the large majority of gun shows don't allow private sales.

The reason you're 'allowed' to sell guns in the scenario you describe w/o the checks is not because you're 'at a gun show', it's because that this particular gun show allowed in private sellers.

Or they're just scofflaws, I suppose that might happen as well.

Again, there's no 'gun show loophole' there's a 'private transfer loophole'.

I'm just saying ... lets call it what it really is.

Hortensis
20. My husband purchased a high-power rifle at a
Florida flea market last year for a friend in upstate NY. No paperwork to speak of. (I purchased some geraniums to surround my reading chair on the little porch off our winter home kitchen.) Our friend has since died. Don't know what's happened to his gun collection of decades, which my husband sad was now worth well over a million dollars, but expect his son and DIL are selling it off.

Unless stuff has changed, THIS is admission of a ‘straw purchase’!!  This is illegal.

The whole thread is full of bullshit, but this jumped out at me. Anyone want to notify the BATFE?

KC

[hillneck]

For being the smartest people alive, they are truly stupid people.  Then again, with these idiots, if it isn't part of their echo chamber then it's not true.  How dare someone interject truth and honestly into their world.  Truth to a DUmmie, is like Raid to a cockroach.

[Old n Grumpy]

There is a whole list of people who can't legally by guns but the do it because they are criminals and the laws are meaningless to them. Dummies don't understand that concept.

[SVPete]

Why in Hades would Progs change from "Gun Show Loophole" to the more honest "Private Transfer Loophole"? The purpose of the dishonest term is to smear gun shows, not accuracy.

BTW, Cruz bought his guns legally, from a store that did the requisite background checks. So this is a red herring. Gun-grabbers should avoid "going there" because it highlights the dozens of failures of the school system and sheriff's department that could have prevented Parkland by Cruz having a criminal record or having been committed involuntarily.

[thundley4]

There is a whole list of people who can't legally by guns but the do it because they are criminals and the laws are meaningless to them. Dummies don't understand that concept.

Thousands of criminals illegally tried to purchase guns, and Obama's regime only prosecuted a handful, less than 50.

[docstew]

Thousands of criminals illegally tried to purchase guns, and Obama's regime only prosecuted a handful, less than 50.

And assisted in the purchase of thousands...

[DumbAss Tanker]

Unless stuff has changed, THIS is admission of a ‘straw purchase’!!  This is illegal.

Not so clear really, it would definitely be if he bought it from a dealer and lied on the form, but a private sale doesn't necessarily run afoul of that.  If the guy he was buying it for really was in NY it probably broke  some crazy-ass NY law, though.

[Texacon]

Not so clear really, it would definitely be if he bought it from a dealer and lied on the form, but a private sale doesn't necessarily run afoul of that.  If the guy he was buying it for really was in NY it probably broke  some crazy-ass NY law, though.

Why am I thinking you can’t mail a firearm without a FFL?

I don’t know why I read that and saw Flea Market, but for some reason was thinking firearms seller.

KC

[hillneck]

Why am I thinking you can’t mail a firearm without a FFL?

KC

Long guns (rifles and shotguns) can be mailed through the USPS.  Pistols however have to be transferred through a FFL holder.  That's the law in a majority of states, however there are always exceptions to the rule mainly California, New York, and Illinois.

[SVPete]

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Unless stuff has changed, THIS is admission of a ‘straw purchase’!!  This is illegal.

The whole thread is full of bullshit, but this jumped out at me. Anyone want to notify the BATFE?
...

Not so clear really, it would definitely be if he bought it from a dealer and lied on the form, but a private sale doesn't necessarily run afoul of that.  If the guy he was buying it for really was in NY it probably broke  some crazy-ass NY law, though.

I'm not withing a mile of being an expert, but I think it takes lying on some government background check form for it to constitute a "Straw Purchase". But the DU member did admit taking advantage of the "Gun Show Loophole" even though it wasn't at a literal gun show.

[BlueStateSaint]

Not so clear really, it would definitely be if he bought it from a dealer and lied on the form, but a private sale doesn't necessarily run afoul of that.  If the guy he was buying it for really was in NY it probably broke  some crazy-ass NY law, though.

Yup--Dandy Andy Cuomo's "SAFE Act."  The transfer requires a licensed firearms dealer within NYS, and a background check with the Feds.

[FiddyBeowulf]

Long guns (rifles and shotguns) can be mailed through the USPS.  Pistols however have to be transferred through a FFL holder.  That's the law in a majority of states, however there are always exceptions to the rule mainly California, New York, and Illinois.

To clarify, inside a state, long guns can be mailed to non-licensed people. Interstate mailing requires the person the long gun being sent to be a FFL.

[DumbAss Tanker]

BTW, I did not get from the excerpt posted that the rifle had been mailed at all, I was assuming it went by some otherwise-Federally-legal means such as being taken by hand on the DUmmie's further travels and delivered on a visit, or given to some mutual friend that delivered it.

[FiddyBeowulf]

Hortensis
20. My husband purchased a high-power rifle at a
Florida flea market last year for a friend in upstate NY. No paperwork to speak of.

BTW, I did not get from the excerpt posted that the rifle had been mailed at all, I was assuming it went by some otherwise-Federally-legal means such as being taken by hand on the DUmmie's further travels and delivered on a visit, or given to some mutual friend that delivered it.

I do not think any other means were friendlier. The buyer in Florida (whether a resident in FL or NY) took the firearm over state lines to another person without x-ferring thru a FFL in NY.