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TomCADem (11,944 posts) https://www.democraticunderground.com/10141998743Dems introduce bill banning assault weaponsSource: MSN/The HillReps. David Cicilline (D-R.I.) and Ted Deutch (D-Fla.) formally introduced a bill on Monday to ban assault weapons. The legislation, called the "Assault Weapons Ban of 2018," was introduced less than two weeks after the mass shooting at a Parkland, Fla., high school that left 17 people dead. The gunman used an AR-15 assault rifle during the shooting, one of the many firearms that would be banned under the bill. The legislation would make it "unlawful for a person to import, sell, manufacture, transfer, or possess, in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce, a semiautomatic assault weapon." Deutch had promised to introduce such a ban during a CNN town hall event last week.Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/dems-introduce-bill-banning-assault-weapons/ar-BBJD8DK?li=BBnb7Kz Right on. It is about time some folks have the guts to take on the gun industry. While they are at it, please repeal the federal bill immunizing gun makers from lawsuits. Democrats need to show that they are not afraid of gun makers.
Star Member Maven (9,262 posts) 1. Good. Make them vote against it.Introduce it again and again and again, like they did the ACA.
olegramps (5,313 posts) 67. The Republicans will not allow it to come up for debate. This is why we must retake congress.The ballot box is our last and only hope. I can only hope that we can wake up the youth to get out and vote or their future is in the shit house of history. My time is over and I have to admit that I was most fortunate to have lived through the best times of our nation's history. I was born during the depression in a migrant labor camp after my parents lost their livelihood. Many kids didn't even have a birth certificate until after their citizenship, and birth were found in the federal census or had been recorded in the family bible which was taken as proof. Thank God for FDR or we would still be there. I was able to get an education, rather than being forced into employment while still a child, worked my way through college during a time when that was possible, gladly serviced in the armed forces, married and thrived in the Fair Deal and New Deal economies that saw the working class get a fair shake. The Republicans and their nincompoop useful idiots are determined to turn back the clock to the days of working class destitution it will be another day older and deeper in debt to the country store. The oligarchs are coming for you and they are intent on enslaving you in a hopeless futile life or misery. Its your choice.
Star Member Hermit-The-Prog (856 posts) 3. but but butMy rights! They're taking away my ability to defend myself from the mindless hordes of Rethuglicans! Dems got tighter language than I posted on here; I never thought of the "import" or "in or affecting" parts. Guess that's why the pros get the big bucks. Hope this gets lots of public attention and Ryan has hissy fits.
Star Member napi21 (42,795 posts) 4. I don't think the Dems can shame them into voting against banning assault weapons. I just saw, onMSNBC, there was vote in the Florida legislature and they voted the bill down. There was a lot of booing from spectators, but Pub chair kept banging the gavel and calling for the next bill. That's what I expect from the federal legislators too. I actually HOPE they do vote it down because it will give truth to the Dems while they are campaigning .
appal_jack (3,440 posts) 5. This is just as bad as the Franken pile-on.Last edited Tue Feb 27, 2018, 02:26 AM - Edit history (1)I oppose AWB's on grounds of individual liberty, and that they will not in fact reduce murders. I can't imagine compliance with such a ridiculous law being particularly high even if a fair price was paid for each weapon turned-in, and the link makes no mention of how more than a hundred million firearms would be paid for. But the details of my opposition aside, the mob mentality that has gripped many Democrats is truly chilling. There is a mad rush to delete one of the ten fundamental freedoms written into our founding national document. Like the rush to Deny Al Franken due process in the zeal for "Me too," this AWB madness will hurt many actual, progressive Democrats across the USA. I predict that Democrats will suffer at the polls once the media moves on to the next big story. Meanwhile, I will continue to speak against this ill-advised policy proposal. -app
TomCADem (11,944 posts) 23. Same RW Neoliberal Military Industrial Free Market CrapWe don’t even need to go to Fox News to get right wing no regulation talking points. There really is no reason why people should military weaponry that has been used in some of the deadliest mass shootings in our recent history. Not only is there not a ban, but gun makers have federal immunity against law suits.
cvoogt (789 posts) 27. the Second Amendment is not God-given.Sorry, screw individual liberties when it comes to weapons of war. No one should have those. It is an amendment, and as such could be amended or repealed if enough people agree. I don't see a mad rush; I see some level of sanity prevailing in the gun debate perhaps for the first time in a long time.
Star Member vkkv (3,212 posts) 31. The 1st Amendment is limited by common sense and decency. If you go TOO far in your freedom ofspeech you can also be sued, but that's another matter. Broadcast networks cannot say "Trump and the NRA are a bunch of butt-licking, douche bagger ball sucking ****-ups who'd screw their own daughters and sons just as soon as beating up their immigrant-prostitute wives." - You can't say that on broadcast tv. We have every right, at our choosing, to ban the public from owning unnecessary military grade killing machines. Get it now?
harun (11,149 posts) 32. It's a moving forward ban. No one is suggesting rounding up existing ones.
appal_jack (3,440 posts) 40. Read the proposed bill. It bans "possession." nt
Star Member steve2470 (34,048 posts) 54. Individual liberty to shoot up kids at school?OK then, toodles Mr. NRA
Dave Starsky (2,320 posts) 88. The NRA is quite clear that they are OK with child gun murders.They have made no effort whatsoever to ensure that the weapons they lust over won't be used for that purpose. At the same time, they act as a lobbying organization for the gun manufacturers and sellers. They invoke the 2nd Amendment to protect their primary purpose, to make money off the sale of guns. I will believe that the NRA gives a shit about the killing of children when they actually do something about it.
Star Member oasis (34,895 posts) 7. Dems must show courage. The recent youth movement won't waitfor stragglers.
Calista241 (2,873 posts) 9. This bill bans all semi automatic pistols and rifles.So, virtually 90%+ of all firearms sold today. I can’t begin to tell you how devestating this would be for us in the 2018 Senate races. Donnelly, Heitkamp, Tester, Brown and Smith would for sure lose. And maybe Manchin, Kaine, Nelson and Casey lose also. It’s fine if you want to lay down on this altar, but realize that Trump will have 2 more years of even easier approval of crazy judicial and cabinet appointments.
AtheistCrusader (32,639 posts) 19. "unlawful for a person to import, sell, manufacture, transfer, or possess, in or affecting""unlawful for a person to import, sell, manufacture, transfer, or possess, in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce, a semiautomatic assault weapon." Transfer means I can't even give mine to my kid. Possess means 'turn it in', destroy it, etc. After Gonzales v. Raich you can be sure that anything in your gun safe can be classified to 'affect interstate commerce'. This bill is a total shit-show. I'll need to re-read the whole bill in detail, but it'll ban about 25% of the contents of my gun safe.
Weed Man (304 posts) 72. And why do you need this many guns? People like you needs to have their brains examined for owning murder weapons. I suggest you sell the contents of your gun safe and the safe to go with it. Don't like it? Tough. We need a reasonably gun-free country. I'm all about strict interpretation of the 2nd Amendment. I interpret it clearly as the regulated militia is the standing military (Army, Navy, Air Force, Coast Guard, US Marines, to name a few)- but not to the LEO's. THey will be issued a TASER or less lethal weapons.
Bengus81 (2,316 posts) 16. THANK YOU DEMS!!! You made my day. NOW let all Republicans vote AGAINST this for the World to see...
vkkv (3,212 posts)31. The 1st Amendment is limited by common sense and decency. If you go TOO far in your freedom ofspeech you can also be sued, but that's another matter.Broadcast networks cannot say "Trump and the NRA are a bunch of butt-licking, douche bagger ball sucking ****-ups who'd screw their own daughters and sons just as soon as beating up their immigrant-prostitute wives." - You can't say that on broadcast tv. We have every right, at our choosing, to ban the public from owning unnecessary military grade killing machines.Get it now?
Star Member Maven (9,262 posts)1. Good. Make them vote against it.Introduce it again and again and again, like they did the ACA.
They live in their little bubble over there and since 99% of them hate guns, they think that reflects the views of the whole nation. It's why they are always surprised when stuff doesn't go the way they think it should. It's hilarious and sad all at the same time.KC
O Lord please make it so. This will be the end of most democRATS, except in the total Lib s**tholds. Apparently the DUmmies haven't been paying very close attention in reference to politicians running on a anti gun platform. It usually doesn't end well for them.
They think that they have 'the public' behind them this time.
Ted Kennedy is the only person with an actual confirmed kill in the war on women.
