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Trump might try to use military to retain power
« on: January 25, 2018, 10:56:54 PM »
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David Cay Johnston on MSNBC just mentioned Trump might try to use military to retain power

He thinks it's a real possibility.

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4. heard that    Good that he is out of the country now, he's probably over the top now. tRump is very unpredictable which could be a very dangerous thing.

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7. I doubt the Pentagon brass are big fans of Trump.

They'd resist the orders.

 :stoner: The military in general love Trump.

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15. My expectation is that the military would refuse such an order.

Military officers' oath is to the constitution. That oath - for want of a better word - trumps the duty to obedience to the President. Military officers are taught from their earliest days they have a duty to disobey illegal orders - that obedience to orders is the "Nuremberg defense" and the Nuremberg defendants were hanged. After nearly thirty years of duty as an Army JAG, I know the lawyers would be screaming bloody murder threatening prosecution for sedition (Article 94, UCMJ).

I have no reason to believe that the military would participate in a coup d'etat.

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22. I've said all along if something happens we are going to have a hard time getting rid of him

He's going to call on his crazy base to defend him. Hopefully the military will be on our side.

You may well get the civil war you idiots always scream for...
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Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2018, 07:12:50 AM »
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David Cay Johnston on MSNBC just mentioned Trump might try to use military to retain power

He thinks it's a real possibility.

Nah, the transition to the next POTUS in January, 2025 will happen as it should. And Trump and his peeps will do it with a lot more class than Clinton and his peeps did.
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Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2018, 08:55:19 AM »
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15. My expectation is that the military would refuse such an order.

Military officers' oath is to the constitution. That oath - for want of a better word - trumps the duty to obedience to the President. Military officers are taught from their earliest days they have a duty to disobey illegal orders - that obedience to orders is the "Nuremberg defense" and the Nuremberg defendants were hanged. After nearly thirty years of duty as an Army JAG, I know the lawyers would be screaming bloody murder threatening prosecution for sedition (Article 94, UCMJ).

I have no reason to believe that the military would participate in a coup d'etat.
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Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2018, 09:06:50 AM »
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David Cay Johnston on MSNBC just mentioned Trump might try to use military to retain power

Who TF is that, and why would anyone give a rat's ass what he thinks? 
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Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2018, 09:39:50 AM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on January 26, 2018, 09:06:50 AM
Who TF is that, and why would anyone give a rat's ass what he thinks?

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David Cay Boyle Johnston (born December 24, 1948)[1] is an American investigative journalist and author, a specialist in economics and tax issues, and winner of the 2001 Pulitzer Prize for Beat Reporting.

From 2009 to 2014 he was a Distinguished Visiting Lecturer who taught the tax, property, and regulatory law of the ancient world at Syracuse University College of Law and the Whitman School of Management. From July 2011 until September 2012 he was a columnist for Reuters, writing, and producing video commentaries, on worldwide issues of tax, accounting, economics, public finance and business. Johnston is the board president of Investigative Reporters and Editors.[2] He has also written for Al Jazeera English and America in recent years.

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Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2018, 09:50:10 AM »
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David Cay Johnston on MSNBC just mentioned Trump might try to use military to retain power

He thinks it's a real possibility.

he is just another ass hole liberal. we will use the military to round up all you resistors, blm, antifa etc. And make America great again!!
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Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2018, 10:04:37 AM »
Well, if you leftist assholes attempt a coup damn right he would use the military.
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Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2018, 10:31:25 AM »
"Marshall" Law!!!  :ohnoes:
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Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2018, 11:07:34 AM »
Why use the military to retain what you won with the votes of free men?

Still, the very thought that anti-gun DUmmies live in fear of men with guns is a good thing. All the easier to round them up for the FEMA camps.
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Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2018, 11:08:55 AM »
Quote from: Ralph Wiggum on January 26, 2018, 10:31:25 AM
"Marshall" Law!!!  :ohnoes:

I have always found Marital Law far more frightening.
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Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2018, 11:16:36 AM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on January 26, 2018, 09:06:50 AM
Who TF is that, and why would anyone give a rat's ass what he thinks?

Someone blathering what DU folk want to hear.
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Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2018, 12:14:35 PM »
DU is too stupid to realize they're being played like a fiddle for ratings.

The owner comes home, and kicks the cat.  The cat turns around and kicks the mouse.  So it is the way of things.

Trump comes to power, and kicks the MSM.  The MSM turns around and kicks their viewers.  So it is the way of things.



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Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2018, 12:41:12 PM »
The, "To ask is to answer," question of the day: Were the DU threads in 2003, 2004, 2007, and 2008 claiming George W. Bush would use the military to usurp the Presidency from Kerry and Obama?
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Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2018, 02:52:34 PM »
Quote from: Mr Mannn on January 26, 2018, 11:08:55 AM
I have always found Marital Law far more frightening.

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Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2018, 03:27:54 PM »
Quote from: SVPete on January 26, 2018, 12:41:12 PM
The, "To ask is to answer," question of the day: Were the DU threads in 2003, 2004, 2007, and 2008 claiming George W. Bush would use the military to usurp the Presidency from Kerry and Obama?

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Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2018, 03:30:25 PM »
Quote from: SVPete on January 26, 2018, 07:12:50 AM
Nah, the transition to the next POTUS in January, 2025 will happen as it should. And Trump and his peeps will do it with a lot more class than Clinton and his peeps did.

I remember that!  For those who do not, the reference is to the trashing of the White House by Clintonistas before W. Bush took over in 2000.
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Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2018, 06:00:38 PM »
Not this crap again. The claimed the same about Bush.
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Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2018, 06:54:24 PM »
Quote from: Mr Mannn on January 26, 2018, 11:08:55 AM
I have always found Marital Law far more frightening.

Worse than the IRS!  The IRS only lays claim to some of your stuff. Marital Law lays claim to all your stuff.   :lmao:

What is the old saying?  What's hers is hers and what's yours is hers.... and if you want to stay married you will like it that way!   :rotf:
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Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
« Reply #18 on: January 26, 2018, 06:57:04 PM »
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    highplainsdem (15,379 posts) https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210145834


    David Cay Johnston on MSNBC just mentioned Trump might try to use military to retain power

    He thinks it's a real possibility.


I don't think he would have to "use" them, dummie. I think they would do it all on their own... as they would if they saw any president getting illegally railroaded out of office.
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Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2018, 07:50:27 PM »
Yeah?  Some of us never retire from serving the USA.  Watch yer back you commie scum.
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Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2018, 08:49:30 PM »
Quote from: DUmpsterDiver on January 26, 2018, 07:50:27 PM
Yeah?  Some of us never retire from serving the USA.  Watch yer back you commie scum.

As I seem to recall, that oath to protect and defend "the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic" didn't have an expiration date.  Let's get it on!
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Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2018, 09:20:46 PM »
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David Cay Johnston on MSNBC just mentioned Trump might try to use military to retain power

He thinks it's a real possibility.

Lay off the pot.
« Last Edit: January 26, 2018, 09:26:33 PM by Ptarmigan »
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Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2018, 11:49:38 AM »
Damn,This crap again. They must think highly of themselves to think they are going to be the ones to save the country even if this did happen. The very people that hate guns and "violence" until they want to use guns to commit violence.
 
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Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2018, 01:51:28 AM »
It's already happening. I have proof!

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Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2018, 09:27:19 AM »
Quote from: Fourwinds on January 26, 2018, 10:04:37 AM
Well, if you leftist assholes attempt a coup damn right he would use the military.

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