we need a democratic tea part movement

[dutch508]

Star Member rdking647 (4,261 posts) https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210132279


we need a democratic tea part movement

back in 2010 a GOP uprising by a base that felt ignored ignited the tea party and got rid of a lot of GOP members who they felt were what they called RINOS.

maybe we need a democratic tea party to replace some of the current entrenched leadership with a younger group who will listen to the base instead of ignoring it

You've had them.

Occupy Wallstreet
Black Lives Matter
AntiFa

Star Member rdking647 (4,261 posts)

15. their base loves trump

our base is split in 2. we have the traditional dems and the sanders dems.

the traditional dem approach isnt working,maybe its time to let teh sanders wing have a go at it.

Star Member DURHAM D (25,788 posts)

28. lol

Apparently poster doesn't know that BS is not a member of the Democratic Party. Much like Nina Turner and Linda Sarsour.

That the TEA party most successful thing was the election of D. Trump. You guys gave us that too.

fallout87 (274 posts)

48. And controlling all 3 branches of government, plus most statehouses and governorships.

Oh, yes... that too.

Star Member ehrnst (10,603 posts)

62. It wasn't their philosophy that got them that

There was also gerrymandering that helped, but they weren't afraid to actually roll up their sleeves and do the boring, tedious work of actual politics.

They ran for school boards, county councils, statehouses - and they got policy changed from the ground up. They established a record of accomplishment and ran on it.

They didn't avoid soiling themselves with "politics as usual" and "establishment leadership" by staying away from the voting booth unless there was a candidate that totes made them feel "validated" with their "new blood."

They got out the vote, they did the unglamourous WORK that didn't get them attention on social media. They didn't bitch and moan that "unaffiliated" voters weren't a part of party decisionmaking, they voted in primaries, even if that meant they needed to register with a party by a certain deadline in order to do so.

It's said that Democrats have to fall in love, while Republicans fall in line.

There is something to be said for having people willing to do the grunt work of building a party infrastructure even when you aren't starry eyed in love with that party or the candidates that are running. The Tea Party on the right definitely had that going for them.

I really don't see that happening in a "tea Part" on the left.

I do see it happening with women in the Party - getting out there and running themselves, even though there are those politicians who imply that Democratic gals don't really understand what they are doing, by 'splaining them "It's not enough to vote for a candidate because she's a woman," as if that's a problem.

Indivisible is attempting to apply the effective parts of what the Tea Party did to defeating them. The vast majority of people I see working in Indivisible are women who believe that the Democratic party isn't the problem - but laziness and pointless sniping might be.

Certainly it's easier to whine and complain about Democrats and demand that they change (but def leave that infrastructure in place that makes it possible for people to run for national office) than getting in there at the actual grassroots level and working for that change.

 

Star Member Eliot Rosewater (10,990 posts)

2. Half of them would end up losing guaranteeing the GOP would not just retain power but for decades

Recommending this NOW, is absolute SUICIDE

Caliman73 (2,943 posts)

83. Well Said!

The idea of a Tea Party is understandable in a conservative movement. They have a central theme of preserving some kind of nostalgic "golden time" where things were better. They are always looking for an authority that will make that so, that will make things make sense again. They will never find it because it never existed. It was always a product of being a child, being naive, and seeing the world in binary terms like an immature person does.

To Liberals/Progressives, there is no such thing as Purity anyway.  [ ] Liberals/Progressives are by nature always challenging, always changing, and changing at different paces. We seek to grow and create a better society. This is something that we need to remind ourselves BETTER NOT PERFECT. There is no perfect and will never be one. There will always be tension within our party from people who "have it figured out" and others who want to "wait and see".

As you said crazycatlady, the younger, more active people who want to engage in public service are already starting to break into politics. All are welcome to put their names into the hat and run for office to make the change they want to make.

Just know that we seek to improve, not to perfect.

ProudLib72 (6,488 posts)

87. And when someone who has not registered as a Dem or voted for Dems

comes along to run on our ticket in the primaries, screw them! I'm sorry, but that was a mistake that keeps on hurting us.

Star Member Tarheel_Dem (28,101 posts)

5. I get so tired of coming here and reading divisive shit like this. I don't want to become the GOP

and I don't want to adopt their tactics. The result is a neverending stalemate that profits nobody, except those who continually try to divide Democrats, and by extension, the country.

Why don't the Greens & other malcontents strategize elsewhere, and leave us the f**k alone?

And this is why you keep losing.

Star Member DURHAM D (25,788 posts)

30. I just call them the Chaos Agents.

The agents on the right and on the left are butt buddies and they are all paid in rubles.

 

Star Member BumRushDaShow (28,962 posts)

95. The "tea party" was an up front Koch-funded entity

that has of course, strayed away from their purported original focus, to now include all the RW christo-fascist, anti-everything but themselves "Freedom Caucus". They were also enabled by clever GOP maneuvering that allowed them to take over state governments at all levels, leading up to and during a census year, meaning they could then redraw the lines in their own favor. That further boosted their power beyond any statistical meaning with respect to actual party affiliation in a locality. They then promptly began to enact ALEC-manufactured legislation to further tighten their grip on our states, forcing us to spend more time in the courts to save the electorate from truly dystopian laws, than have time properly organizing that electorate to engage in the process and run for office.

This time we are (hopefully) getting ourselves ready for the 2020 census and that means taking back our states and getting people trained and ready to run for office.

What we are seeing is a hyper-local, grassroots effort, but one that recognizes certain values shared by most if not all Democrats.

 

Star Member Aristus (40,905 posts)

18. You're not going to get me to wear one of those cockamaimie teabag hats.

n/t

... wait for it...

crazycatlady (2,732 posts)

71. our hats are pink with cat ears

And IMO much more attractive

 

Star Member hunter (27,506 posts)

42. "Tea Party" is so ****ing boring. I say more FABULOUS!

Klingon included.

Honor is celebrated.

Everything about the modern Republican party stinks of dishonor.

Even the Ferengi shun them. They make the Cardassians look reasonable.

These modern Republicans are sadder souls than the Pakled.

Deplorable.

 

 

Star Member MineralMan (103,044 posts)

69. No. We don't.

You should, perhaps, think a little longer about this.

Don't worry, MM... you'll be dead before any of this comes to pass...

BlueTsunami2018 (17 posts)

78. We had one called Occupy. They were too good for politics.

Instead of using the momentum to run OWS candidates at every level in the Democratic Party, they instead embraced ridiculous and impossible ideas like eliminating capitalism and moving to a barter system. And somehow doing this without using the apparatus in place. If we had built the grassroots that were there and used them to work the system from within, who knows how big and how far we’d have gotten? We’d have been five years into it already.

Instead the baggers have a ton of elected officials destroying the country and the left is still impotently shaking their fists in rage as it happens. OWS had real potential as evidenced by Bernie Sanders’ huge popularity among the working class in 2016, it would have worked if anyone would have had the sense to use the system to change it.

It still infuriates me how pigheaded those people were.

[DUmpsterDiver]

The biggest movement these democrat DUmmys need is the one that follows gravity down the closet bowl...

[landofconfusion80]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W8AgOozM8KQ

[DumbAss Tanker]

Try getting the Communist Party USA to change their name to 'Democrat,' that ought to fill the bill nicely.

[SVPete]

You've had them.

Occupy Wallstreet
Black Lives Matter
AntiFa
...

Except the Occupooers, BLaMers, and Antifoids were/are violent and the TEA Party people never were. But there is the Coffee Party USA which never managed to percolate into significance. Their Board Minutes evidence that they are struggling to continue exist. As Tessa would say, .

[Carl]

Or maybe the retarded shit you mongrels believe in disgusts normal Americans.

[DLR Pyro]

If the DUmmies had any knowledge of history, they would know that the original Boston tea party was done to protest a tax.  The recent TEA party stood for Taxed Enough Already which represernted the feeling many conservatives have towards government taxation.

With how much complaining the DUmmies and the democrat party has made of the recent Trump tax cuts, they should form a party called the TUMS party which would stand for Tax Us More Socialists.

[Adam Wood]

If the DUmmies had any knowledge of history, they would know that the original Boston tea party was done to protest a tax.  The recent TEA party stood for Taxed Enough Already which represernted the feeling many conservatives have towards government taxation.

With how much complaining the DUmmies and the democrat party has made of the recent Trump tax cuts, they should form a party called the TUMS party which would stand for Tax Us More Socialists.

Not TUMS.

They should be TEEM: Tax Everyone Else More.  That's the actually accurate description.

[FiddyBeowulf]

BlueTsunami2018 (17 posts)

78. We had one called Occupy. They were too good for politics.

Instead of a jackass you can use an image of a homeless dude taking a shit on a cop car as your party's symbol.

[SVPete]

Instead of a jackass you can use an image of a homeless dude taking a shit on a cop car as your party's symbol.

That was an "Occupier", during the "Occupy" demonstration in SF. It's the inspiration for my usage of Occupooer.

[BlueStateSaint]

That was an "Occupier", during the "Occupy" demonstration in SF. It's the inspiration for my usage of Occupooer.

That was SF?  I thought it was NYC.  Same thing, really . . .

[67 Rover]

Occupy making a return?  Good time to invest in manufacturing tents for the rape free zones and library's.

[Old n Grumpy]

To Liberals/Progressives, there is no such thing as Purity anyway.  [ ] Liberals/Progressives are by nature always challenging, always changing, and changing at different paces. We seek to grow and create a better society.

Your problem is that your idea of a better society is not what the rest of society want. there are more of us than you so get used to not getting what you want.

You can't even get along amongst your selves so how can you build a majority?

[BlueStateSaint]

Your problem is that your idea of a better society is not what the rest of society want. there are more of us than you so get used to not getting what you want.  And, we have most of the privately-owned firearms in the country!

You can't even get along amongst your selves so how can you build a majority?

Added for emphasis.

[SVPete]

That was SF?  I thought it was NYC.  Same thing, really . . .

Different ends of it, but both are in Fly From Country.