Palmer Report; Trump is Toast! really! We really mean it this time....

[dutch508]

L. Coyote (45,701 posts) https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210040291


Palmer: Mueller investigating Trump & Russia for rigging Michigan and Wisconsin

Robert Mueller is investigating Donald Trump and Russia for rigging Michigan and Wisconsin
Bill Palmer ---- Dec 29, 2017

For weeks, prominent Republicans in Congress have begun trying to smear Special Counsel Robert Mueller. Now we know why. Earlier this week we learned that Mueller has been investigating the Republican Party’s role in the Trump-Russia scandal. Now we’re learning that Mueller is specifically investigating Trump, the Republican Party, and Russia for their roles in conspiring to rig multiple key swing states in the 2016 election.

Russian trolls micro-targeted voters in Wisconsin and Michigan, feeding them fake political news in order to trick them into voting under false pretenses, thus rigging the outcome of the election in those two states. The trolls in question had the kind of sophisticated knowledge and profiling of specific voters in these states that they almost certainly couldn’t have come up with on their own. Now, according to New York Magazine (link), Mueller is seeking to prove that the Trump campaign and the Republican National Committee provided this voter data to the Russians.

This is the most specific confirmation to date that Mueller is indeed seeking to prove that Trump and his Republican allies did in fact rig the outcome of the election by illegally conspiring with Russia to alter the outcome. ...............

They fall for it every single time...

Star Member JI7 (64,433 posts)

1. This source is not credible

 

Wwcd (1,021 posts)

17. Well he provides links like every other place, even like DU.

He's as credible as anyone else, including our top notch journalists at MSM, even! Judging by what a fine job they all did for the country in 2016 with their, Trump-24/7 coverage.


Palmer is as credible as any of them.

Wwcd (1,021 posts)

31. He seemed to have been on a blacklist with a few others, by a "certain group"

This happened early on when they began outing RU ops & connecting the Trump dirty works.
They also didn't like it when these blogger groups revealed the truth about Stein, & other questionable operations that brought on the coup.

You know how it is when the truth is revealed & trolls are sent out to stop the leaks.
Same shit happened with Palmer & the bloggers.
Well they failed because Palmer & his fellow bloggers are Still Here doing their part in outing Russia's game.

I guess that would piss off those who want to silence that truth.

 

Bernardo de La Paz (21,155 posts)

30. At minimum is Conspiracy Against the USA: Coordinating with enemy power to interfere in USA election


Welcome to DU, I think.

Star Member louis c (6,133 posts)

86. It's illegal for the campaign to coordinate

Obviously anyone can say anything. but it's illegal for the Prime Minister of England, for example, to donate money to a Presidential campaign and have the money accepted.

That's Russia. They hacked Democratic emails, passed them along to WikiLeaks for release and informed the Trump campaign that they were doing it on their behalf. The Trump campaign did not alert the FBI. Accepted the "donation" and was negotiating a quid pro quo, or understanding with Russia on the sanctions. It went up as high as Manafort, Kushner and Donnie Jr. That's the crux of the case.

GaryM (8 posts)

7. Illegaly targeting voters with mis-information is electoral fraud

If you want to debate definitions...

Electoral fraud, election manipulation, or vote rigging is illegal interference with the process of an election, whether by increasing the vote share of the favored candidate, depressing the vote share of the rival candidates, or both. ... In a narrow election, a small amount of fraud may be enough to change the result.

Apparently the Russian trolls have joined DU.

 

Bernardo de La Paz (21,155 posts)

24. What part of 'coordinating with enemy power to interfere with free election' do you not understand?


At a minimum it is Conspiracy Against the USA.

roamer65 (13,377 posts)

35. We must flip Congress as much as possible in November.

We must emasculate this aberration called the Dump pResidency.

 

Star Member Stinky The Clown (57,630 posts)

10. I hope people reading this thread understand Palmer is a wackadoodle nutter.

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Unreliable Sources.

Should be prohibited from DU. Along with a few others. All of whom, I think, live in St. Petersburg

 

Star Member malaise (166,369 posts)

14. Ryan, Preibus and Walker

got practice stealing that governorship after their attacks on unions.
Lock them UP!

Star Member kentuck (83,570 posts)

15. Is this a credible source?

Or just another "fake news"?

Star Member Hoyt (32,239 posts)

32. More hopeful BS from Palmer.

 

[Texacon]

No evidence. None. But, you know what is real?  Hillary was fed debate questions. Yup. She didn’t complain either. Had the questions and time to prepare and STILL got her ass handed to her.

Suck it DUmmies.

KC

[Old n Grumpy]

None of them cared when obama was meddling in the Israeli elections. Ass holes  .

[freedumb2003b]

GaryM (8 posts)

7. Illegaly targeting voters with mis-information is electoral fraud

If that was true, hiLIARy would have been arrested on the first day of her campaign. And obozo on the last day of his.

[DumbAss Tanker]

As a retired lawyer, it's both hilarious and aggravating to see them string words together like that and think they actually understand what they mean.  They don't, and the actual laws they're talking about mean something entirely different than they think.

[zeitgeist]

They 'send out the truth trolls'     Mueller couldn't find his ass in a windstorm with a map an guide dog if you spotted him both hands.   

National Spaghetti day is coming right up.  https://www.worldnationaldays.com/national-spaghetti-day-2018/

If it were a Democratic being investigated they would be plastering the halls with this stuff.

[Ralph Wiggum]

None of them cared when obama was meddling in the Israeli elections. Ass holes  .

Or Brexit.

[DLR Pyro]

GaryM (8 posts)

7. Illegaly targeting voters with mis-information is electoral fraud

so would something like, oh, gee, how about the senate majority leader repeatedly telling the media that the Presidential candidate of his opposing party has not paid his taxes be a good hypothetical example of electoral fraud as you define it, DUmmy?

[diesel driver]

They 'send out the truth trolls'     Mueller couldn't find his ass in a windstorm with a map an guide dog if you spotted him both hands.   

National Spaghetti day is coming right up.  https://www.worldnationaldays.com/national-spaghetti-day-2018/

If it were a Democratic being investigated they would be plastering the halls with this stuff.

Mueller couldn't find his own ass if he had both hands in his back pockets...

I'm betting it will be at least 24 business hours before anything surfaces about Trump, and by then, nobody will remember why...   

Mmmmmmmm      I likes me some spaghetti...

[SVPete]

Star Member Stinky The Clown (57,630 posts)

10. I hope people reading this thread understand Palmer is a wackadoodle nutter.

When Stinker is your voice of sanity becoming pathetic would be giant step up!

[Texacon]

so would something like, oh, gee, how about the senate majority leader repeatedly telling the media that the Presidential candidate of his opposing party has not paid his taxes be a good hypothetical example of electoral fraud as you define it, DUmmy?

Perfect example.

^5.

KC

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

As a retired lawyer, it's both hilarious and aggravating to see them string words together like that and think they actually understand what they mean.  They don't, and the actual laws they're talking about mean something entirely different than they think.

Over at DU Jr. there's a live one claiming that any AG that defends a law later ruled unconstitutional is guilty of following illegal orders.

[Movie buff- The Sequel]

Um, even if this latest explosion of BS is true, I'm pretty sure that just a few hackers sending supposed misinformation to voters in advance of an election to impact who they'd vote for wouldn't be considered election rigging, and certainly not illegal.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Over at DU Jr. there's a live one claiming that any AG that defends a law later ruled unconstitutional is guilty of following illegal orders.

 

It's not just their stupidity that is so appalling, it's their boundless confidence in the delusion that they're actually being smart.

[zeitgeist]

It's not just their stupidity that is so appalling, it's their boundless confidence in the delusion that they're actually being smart.

I was putting together a list years ago (@2005, maybe on the old CU before the first melt down) which I found the other day when doing some long overdue house keeping on a old server.    It was a "Check All Which Apply" to your favorite Dummy.

Paranoid
Schizophrenic
Abused / Abusive
Obsessive
Compulsive
Congenital
Pathologic
Psychotic
Alcoholic
Chemical Dependant
Sexual Perversion
Voyeur
Deviant
Physically Caused Dementia
Mentally Challenged
Tourette's
 

Note: more than one category may apply.