Star Member kentuck (83,254 posts) https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029988400
My guess is that Mueller is debating whether to indict another individual at this time or...
...to wait a little longer?
He may feel the need to show that there is indeed something to investigate and that it is not a "hoax" and that progress is being made in the investigation?
The times and circumstances may dictate that he move a little quicker than he would like?
Just a guess...
Poor kentuck... the DUmbest of the DUmpmonkiez... Meuller is hoping he doesn't end up in a federal prison...
Wwcd (907 posts)
1. Mueller doesn't have to prove wrong, an accusation from those he's investigating.
He only has to prove their criminal guilt.
He will.
DUmpmonkiez call Wwcd an idiot...
Wwcd (907 posts)
26. What attitude are you talking about? This is what I believe.
I don't agree with your opinion.
I have more faith in team Mueller & AG Schneiderman who work together in bringing down the mob.
The investigation into Trump Org in NY has been going on for yrs.
It is Guiliani/NYFBI who protected Trump's dirty deals during those yrs.
Mueller is after RICO. Trump, & Many Congressionals who took Kremlin cash.
The upcoming meeting next week between Mueller & Trump's attorneys will be the telling moment.
I have absolute faith the rat-corner Mueller has Trump in, is getting smaller & smaller.
Next week's meeting is where the biggest deal will be made.
Irish_Dem (3,359 posts)
2. I think he probably has a number of plans at hand.
He is careful and methodical, but never underestimates his enemy, and can adapt quickly and successfully to a changing environment.
I base this opinion on careful study of his experience in the jungles of Viet Nam as a rifle platoon leader. He stayed alive for a year, and received medals for his actions. One can make some good guesses about how he did this.
in that case I must be a ****ing genius...
Irish_Dem (3,359 posts)
15. And Mueller not only survived, he excelled on many levels in Viet Nam.
A very dangerous environment every day from the enemy and also his own men.
A lot of younger officers got fragged.
He stays one step ahead of the enemy and his own men. Knows how to lead and produce a cohesive fighting unit. He learns and adapts to new environments, has courage and steady nerves. Does not scare easily.
OMG!!!
S
tar Member Hortensis (19,044 posts)
20. Agree with all. I suspect he uses leaks as artillery, also indictments, to knock back advances and send those investigated scuttling for their lawyers and the national press avidly on their tails. And with this major attack by the right on his and his investigation's integrity, no surprise if people are expecting a strong counter move on his part.
If so, he'd be guilty of breaking the law.
Irish_Dem (3,359 posts)
51. We shall see how things play out. I have much faith in him as well.
But this is a very serious and complicated investigation with profound implications for America and its institutions. I believe the treason and Russian quid pro quo spans both the White House and Congress.
I do not know how far or wide Mueller will feel he can go without doing irreparable harm to the country, but to stop short would also do great damage.
All I know is that I would not want to be in his shoes.
If it were me, I would bring all wrong doers to justice, come hell or high water.
But I would not have lasted a week in the jungles of Viet Nam.
Perhaps some back room deals will be cut.
And are being negotiated as we speak.
Somebody has watched 'Platoon' way too many times...
Ccarmona (708 posts)
5. Indictments May Have Already Been Filed and Sealed
It’s just a matter of time before Mueller unseals them and sends out the Marshalls to bring the indicted in.
in just a mere 24 business hours!
Star Member former9thward (19,031 posts)
38. He hasn't indicted anybody about the Russian subject matter.
Manafort and his partner were indicted for crimes long before Trump. Flynn and Papadopoulos were indicted on process crimes not substance crimes. This has been an 18 month investigation so far. One would think more would have come out of it by now.
Star Member former9thward (19,031 posts)
47. My view is not popular here.
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I don't think much of the Russia investigation. I don't think Clinton lost because Russia was hacking ballots. Do I think Russia deliberately interferes in other country's elections including ours? Hell, yes. They have been doing it since Soviet times. Their first known attempt, when Truman called them on it, was in 1948 when they financed Wallace's third party bid.
Our hands are not clean when it comes to interfering in elections either. The list is long there, including Russia. And no I am not suggesting equivalency.
If Mueller wants to indict people on crimes he will find them. If you picked names of New York developers and lenders out of a hat you would find criminal violations no matter what their party. I just don't think there will crimes involving conspiracy with Russia and the election.
Irish_Dem (3,359 posts)
37. I think there is only one reason Mueller would back off, or change
course.
If he were convinced that the outcome of his investigation would do irreparable harm to the United States and its institutions. At this point he feels the opposite I think, but I am not sure how things will unfold in the future.
The DUmpmonkiez are already coming up with excuses if the investigation goes no-where...
hvn_nbr_2 (5,514 posts)
40. I see three ways that he might go
1. He may still be working at flipping more people. I'm thinking in particular of the guy who was in charge of Cheeto's computer stuff (forget his name)--he has always seemed to me to be flippable and also to know a whole lot. There are probably several others, maybe even people that we've never even heard of.
2. one indictment against an inner-circle person (Jared or Don Jr. probably) on one charge that is not a charge that states (primarily NY) could charge. This approach would be to get Cadet Bone Spurs to show if he's going to use the pardon, maybe even trick him into using it so that the person can't claim the 5th amendment.
3. a massive set of indictments of several, even many, people with many individual charges, spelled out in significant detail, to bury the "witch hunt" and "nothing happened" memes under a ton of facts. I think that the level of wingnut attacks on Mueller, the investigation, and the FBI and all the wingnut calls to fire him may make this outcome closer on Mueller's horizon than it would otherwise be.
or 4. A huge nothing burger...
I'm voting "4."
Irish_Dem (3,359 posts)
55. I would add #4. Back room deals and resignations in Congress and the WH.
People leaving to spend more time with their family.
But no formal charges.
I think all four options are in play.
