Big Mo's crotch fruit heads down the wrong track of life, Mo ponders on why

[BattleHymn]

https://www.democraticunderground.com/11517723

A big helping of Big Mo, followed with a extra-extra helping of Tubby Tobin:

Tue Oct 24, 2017, 08:07 PM
Star Member mopinko (50,371 posts)

well i met a sister today.


unfortunately, she is a sister in the sorority of mom's of mentally ill children. her untreated bipolar daughter is now cohabitating w my quite unstable son. i recently kicked him out of the house, and he pressed her to let him move in w her, even tho they only met recently.

it was an hour long, mostly very depressing phone call. as it happens she has a degree in psychology, which she got sort of in self defense to try to understand her daughter.
she finds my son quite frightening. i could not argue.
there is a 2 year old child involved, and that is not going well.
he is quite out of touch w reality. my efforts to get him help, as often happens, have been in vain.

most disturbing thing- he was apparently arrested recently. driving at 3 am, likely speeding. had weed in the car, and decided to try to evade the cops. considering everything that all of us know about out of control cops, and how paranoid he is about "the system", i have to wonder if he wasnt attempting suicide by cop.

it was comforting to know that there is someone who is there to try to limit the damage that he can do. i hope she succeeds in protecting her daughter and grandson. i will do whatever i can to help her.
clearly this kid has to hit bottom before he gets any help. he is getting damn close to the bottom.

shit shit shit shit shit shit shit.

Tue Oct 24, 2017, 08:33 PM
Star Member mopinko (50,371 posts)
3. it was also nice to be able to say-

the things my kid says about me arent true- and be believed.

her guess is that he is schizophrenic. he is way more than bipolar, which was the quick guess from his 3 day hold. so very out of it.

Tue Oct 24, 2017, 08:25 PM
Star Member IADEMO2004 (2,536 posts)
2. Much in common with family next door here.

Their son's marriage fell apart drugs mental issues many arrests for no contact violations. Iowa's useless mental health care system offers nothing. Only time they rest is when son is in jail. What choices do people have?

Tue Oct 24, 2017, 08:34 PM
Star Member mopinko (50,371 posts)
4. not many.

even if i got him involuntarily committed, they can make him take any meds. but maybe 30 days w/o weed might clear his head a bit.

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIT a minute.  Weed is GREAT.  What are you TALKING about??

Wed Oct 25, 2017, 01:41 PM
Star Member Tobin S. (9,596 posts)
13. I became severely mentall ill when I was 20 which is within the range

when such things happen in many people who become sick- 18 to 25 in a great many people. My guess is your son as well. At 26 I was still completely lost and even unaware that what I was experiencing was a mental illness. Your son may not have any awareness at all that he is in reality very sick.

When I was 30, a little sliver of reality made an appearance in my mind at a time when I was starting to totally break down: this is not normal...there is something very wrong...I need help...somebody please help me. And I reached out.

Hopefully, that will happen to your son here soon. Unfortunately, many people who have severe mental illnesses often go a long time before getting proper treatment and endure a lot of suffering which is probably already the case with your son. And, of course, the people who love them suffer right along with them.

Wed Oct 25, 2017, 01:55 PM
Star Member mopinko (50,371 posts)
14. i think of you often my dear

and hope that his path follows yours. i want to think there is a light at the end of the tunnel.

this didnt just start, but i think it began w a long standing depression. he is a trauma survivor as well. he was raped by a boy on the block at 10. he only told me this 6 months ago.

he dropped out of school at 16, and hasnt really done much since. he has chased a few interests, and taken some classes, but hasnt really worked. or done much around here. among the many opportunities he has ignored is working w me at my farm.

i have been around bipolars, as well as borderlines (like his sister and possibly his father) and this is much, much worse. he is dangerous.

Anybody like to ponder on how Big Mo's son might have ended up so effed up? 

Bueller?  Bueller?

[franksolich]

One wonders if Big Mo's ever heard the saying, "chickens coming home to roost."

[FunkyZero]

One wonders if Big Mo's ever heard the saying, "chickens coming home to roost."

I've seen legitimate mental illness before, although pretty rare, and it's hard for me to not apply sympathy when I see it. But there sure seems to be a very high rate of it among these people.
I won't poke fun at people who are truly mentally ill, but I think in the case of these animals, it's 99% behavioral, mixed in with refusal to accept personal responsibility and an unwillingness to apply basic impulse control. In other words, their only malfunction is that they are lazy and uncivilized. Taking pills gives them an excuse...  or so they think it does.
I know, everyone already knows it here. It's so freekin obvious.

[SVPete]

unfortunately, she is a sister in the sorority of mom's of mentally ill children. her untreated bipolar daughter is now cohabitating w my quite unstable son. i recently kicked him out of the house, and he pressed her to let him move in w her, even tho they only met recently.
...
there is a 2 year old child involved, and that is not going well.

he is quite out of touch w reality. my efforts to get him help, as often happens, have been in vain.

most disturbing thing- he was apparently arrested recently. driving at 3 am, likely speeding. had weed in the car, and decided to try to evade the cops. considering everything that all of us know about out of control cops, and how paranoid he is about "the system", i have to wonder if he wasnt attempting suicide by cop.

That latter incident might "solve" the shacking-up problem.

If mo-mo's son was relying on the "out of control cops" narrative to put him out of his misery, doesn't his survival and arrest kind of show that the "out of control cops" narrative is more fairy tale than reality?

Why is the girl's mother wringing her hands on the phone to mo-mo instead of trying to rescue her 2YO Grand-Daughter?

[Old n Grumpy]

well i met a sister today.


unfortunately, she is a sister in the sorority of mom's of mentally ill children. her untreated bipolar daughter is now cohabitating w my quite unstable son.

Wow, sounds like the perfect couple. At least neither of them will hook up with some one sane and screw up another life.

[67 Rover]

Wed Oct 25, 2017, 01:55 PM
Star Member mopinko (50,371 posts)
14. i think of you often my dear

and hope that his path follows yours. i want to think there is a light at the end of the tunnel.

this didnt just start, but i think it began w a long standing depression. he is a trauma survivor as well. he was raped by a boy on the block at 10. he only told me this 6 months ago.

he dropped out of school at 16, and hasnt really done much since. he has chased a few interests, and taken some classes, but hasnt really worked. or done much around here. among the many opportunities he has ignored is working w me at my farm.
 

i have been around bipolars, as well as borderlines (like his sister and possibly his father) and this is much, much worse. he is dangerous.

"Farm"   

[FlaGator]

Perhaps she should have spent less time posting on DU and used that free time to rear her children properly.

[lastparker]

One wonders if Big Mo's ever heard the saying, "chickens coming home to roost."

Nah....her chicken is roosting in someone else's home. Just like a DUmmy - foisting their problems off on others.

[FiddyBeowulf]

Tue Oct 24, 2017, 08:07 PM
Star Member mopinko (50,371 posts)

well i met a sister today.


unfortunately, she is a sister in the sorority of mom's of mentally ill children. her untreated bipolar daughter is now cohabitating w my quite unstable son. i recently kicked him out of the house, and he pressed her to let him move in w her, even tho they only met recently.

it was an hour long, mostly very depressing phone call. as it happens she has a degree in psychology, which she got sort of in self defense to try to understand her daughter.
she finds my son quite frightening. i could not argue.
there is a 2 year old child involved, and that is not going well.
he is quite out of touch w reality. my efforts to get him help, as often happens, have been in vain.

most disturbing thing- he was apparently arrested recently. driving at 3 am, likely speeding. had weed in the car, and decided to try to evade the cops. considering everything that all of us know about out of control cops, and how paranoid he is about "the system", i have to wonder if he wasnt attempting suicide by cop.

Smokes weed and is paranoid, unpossible.


The guy probably needs a good detox. Who knows how long he was exposed to Mo's toxic, chicken shit infused, yard sized compost heap growing up.

[thundley4]

he was apparently arrested recently. driving at 3 am, likely speeding. had weed in the car, and decided to try to evade the cops.She doesn't know what her son was arrested for?

her guess is that he is schizophrenic. he is way more than bipolar, which was the quick guess from his 3 day hold. so very out of it.If he tried to outrun the cops and had weed in his car, wouldn't he be locked up until someone paid his bail?

[DumbAss Tanker]

Kinda depends on how much dope.  'Fleeing and eluding' or whatever it's called there is not an offense for which the county normally wants to pay for your pre-trial room and board, so it's generally a 500/1000 or even an OR bond.  Same for non-dealer amounts of marijuana.  It sounds like they referred him on a 72/96 hour inpatient psych eval order instead of keeping him in the slammer.

[Old n Grumpy]

All he really needs is a simple lobotomy.

[67 Rover]

All he really needs is a simple lobotomy.

From the mother.