primitives discuss natural cures

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NCDem777 (189 posts)    Mon Oct 16, 2017, 11:57 AM

Why are RWers embracing bunk "natural cures"?

Used to be that “natural cure” promoters, ya know the people who promote extracts of God knows whatever in place of scientifically proven medicine, used to be the exclusive domain of hippie new age holdovers on the left. But more and more, the radical right is promoting this bullshit.

Some of it can be traced to the hatred of “experts” that permeates large segments of the right. There’s a certain population, especially in rural America, that would do the exact opposite of what anyone with an education level above 10th grade suggested, purely out of spite.

And a lot of it has to do with the various conspiracy websites promoting theories about pharmaceutical companies being out to kill us as part of some drawn out plan of genocide.

But these people hated hippies for 50 years. Suddenly, they’re besties? This seems to have started around the time of the Tea Party revolution. Which makes me think there’s more going on here.

Permit me to indulge in my own theory for a minute. The Holy Grail of Tea Partiers is gutting Medicaid/Medicare entirely. But this is not popular among civilized folks.

But in the last couple Medicaid fights, I noticed something. Right-wingers were telling worried disabled people to just try “natural cures.” A lot of disabled people, myself included, had anti-Medicaid family members telling us to try these bunk “alternative medicines” instead of fighting to keep our access to actual treatments

Worried about losing epilepsy meds? Smoke pot (even if it would violate your lease). Cancer? Try goji berries. Mental illness? Fresh air!

Why? I’m thinking they increasingly want to push these bunk alternative medicine treatments to make themselves feel better about fighting to deny medical treatments to their disabled family members. If they fight to take away their cousin's epilepsy meds and they don't go along with smoking pot as an alternative, it's their fault if they die.

Kinda like “separate but equal.” Ableds can have actual medicine while the disabled and poor can go with alternative medicine (even if it is overpriced bullshit)

DetlefK (11,159 posts)      Mon Oct 16, 2017, 12:03 PM

1. Two obvious reasons:

1. Because science is something for libruls and elites.

2. They don't trust science. You can bribe and bully people, you can always make the argument that God is somehow on your side... but science is uncontrollable. Science doesn't care about what you want. Science doesn't care about your opinions, no matter how important they are to you.

JustAnotherGen (24,063 posts)      Mon Oct 16, 2017, 01:46 PM

8. They view us a 'useless feeders'

I'm convinced of that. I have a Genetic based disease - HLA-B27 Gene Marker Ankylosing Spondylitis.

To the Mississippi Teapublican making $8 an hour - I'm a 'useless feeder'.

They don't realize I'd blow my brains out if I made that kind of money (sorry - not sorry - I'm being authentic an truthful) and every single day more and more, bit by bit, I begin to resent the drain they place on America.

In case one's curious, the problem to which the primitive gives a fancy important-sounding name is nothing more than.....creaking joints.

PoorMonger (327 posts)      Mon Oct 16, 2017, 02:04 PM

9. Largely a symptom of their general idiocy.

The absolute hatred of ‘fake news’ and distrust of anything factual spreads far and wide. The shitty ‘leaders’ on the right know just how dumb their base has gotten and their greed is running rampant. Since so much of their irrational hatred at Obama was rooted in health care it’s only natural that sheisters on the right would target industries like this that push more of their particular bent of delusion.

[SVPete]

NCDem777 (189 posts)    Mon Oct 16, 2017, 11:57 AM

Why are RWers embracing bunk "natural cures"?

Used to be that “natural cure” promoters, ya know the people who promote extracts of God knows whatever in place of scientifically proven medicine, used to be the exclusive domain of hippie new age holdovers on the left. But more and more, the radical right is promoting this bullshit.

...

Is there context to this? Of the fairly many conservatives with whom I'm acquainted I can think of just one family that is into that sort of thing. I won't go through a litany of my family's medical woes, but suffice it to say we haven't gone the "alternative medicine" path.

[Delmar]

In my experience, people with weird notions about medicine, health, and nutrition are always leftists.  I don't know what the hell this primitive is talking about.

[Skul]

I find their pant-hoot sessions to be somewhat amusing.

[BattleHymn]

2. They don't trust science. You can bribe and bully people, you can always make the argument that God is somehow on your side... but science is uncontrollable. Science doesn't care about what you want. Science doesn't care about your opinions, no matter how important they are to you.

Everything you have just said applies to your all of your screwball theories on gender versus actual basic biology. 

[RobJohnson]

Dummies claim to be pro-science yet they reject modern medical treatment & vaccinations that have years of science behind the same.

If some of the DUmmies' natural cures really worked a drug company would be all over that to bring it to market...

[Carl]

"A lot of disabled people, myself included"


In other words someone trying to fake their way onto the disability gravy train had to start a bouncy.