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https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029659772Star Member DemocratSinceBirth (83,398 posts)
I'm surprised there is no social media for Stephen Paddock.
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Not much going on here but wait for it ...
Trust Buster (5,865 posts)
1. Older folks don't necessarily engage in social media.
Response to Trust Buster (Reply #1)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 07:33 AM
oberliner (45,742 posts)
3. He was the same age as most DU posters
So there is that.
Ouch, that's going to leave a mark!
Response to oberliner (Reply #3)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 07:34 AM
Trust Buster (5,865 posts)
6. I have never been into Facebook or Twitter. That is not unusual for those over 50.
Response to Trust Buster (Reply #6)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 08:48 AM
Star Member onenote (28,927 posts)
20. A survey last year indicated that 72 percent of those 50-64 use FB
If you've got contrary data, it would be interesting to see it and compare.
As for Twitter, the numbers for 50-64 aren't that much different than 30-50.
http://www.pewinternet.org/2016/11/11/social-media-update-2016/
Response to onenote (Reply #20)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 09:17 AM
Takket (3,981 posts)
25. That means 28% don't. He fits in that group
Response to Trust Buster (Reply #6)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 09:22 AM
Star Member Zoonart (1,677 posts)
26. I don't have a social media profile either.
Not because I'm old. I abstain for political reasons.
Response to Trust Buster (Reply #6)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 09:34 AM
mitch96 (790 posts)
32. Same here
Nobody can twitter my facebook in public!
m
OK
Response to Trust Buster (Reply #6)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 10:37 AM
Star Member malaise (162,927 posts)
37. Same here
and have no plan of joining either
Response to oberliner (Reply #3)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 08:33 AM
Star Member hlthe2b (56,951 posts)
11. I am quite computer literate as my educational background/work requires high level proficiency...
However, I refuse to register on facebook, twitter, instagram or any of the seeming countless social media platforms. I value my privacy.
Response to hlthe2b (Reply #11)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 09:29 AM
Star Member MiniMe (16,064 posts)
30. I'm with you!
I have a facebook account, and I use it. But I don't post anything personal or political on the account. Some people share way too much.
Response to hlthe2b (Reply #11)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 05:33 PM
Star Member jrthin (2,562 posts)
51. I'm definitely with you. nt
Response to oberliner (Reply #3)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 08:41 AM
Star Member Kingofalldems (25,188 posts)
17. What is that supposed to mean?
Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #17)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 08:46 AM
oberliner (45,742 posts)
18. People in their 60s use the internet
Post on message boards and discussion forums, use social media, etc.
Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 07:31 AM
obamanut2012 (13,629 posts)
2. I know lots of men in their 50s and 60s not on social media
Women that age and much older often do have at least FB, but I know lots of men who don't. So...
Grandchildren would be my guess.
Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 07:33 AM
Star Member BumRushDaShow (27,097 posts)
4. I am in my mid-50s
and don't do twitter or facebook or snapchat or any of that other stuff. I may read what others post on those venues (when publicly accessible) but I have no accounts on such.
Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #4)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 08:39 AM
anneboleyn (4,798 posts)
14. I'm in my forties and use other stuff but no Facebook or Instagram. No public social media page.
shrooms, pot ....
Response to anneboleyn (Reply #14)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 05:13 PM
Star Member Hortensis (17,384 posts)
46. Puerto Rico, anyone? Am I the only one who finds it suspicious that
coverage of what's happening there has virtually disappeared from CNN and MSNBC in favor of wall-to-wall coverage of a dead shooter, people dead and beyond help, injured people who are being helped by professionals and don't need our attention?
We were worrying passionately about Puerto Rico yesterday. Did it sink into the water under the weight of its misery and just disappear? Or are theese poor, dead people in LV being used as a ring in our noses to turn us away?
Honey, if it bleeds it leads. That, and won't somebody think of the children!
Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 07:34 AM
Star Member NightWatcher (33,293 posts)
5. I bet theyll find something
Response to NightWatcher (Reply #5)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 07:35 AM
Trust Buster (5,865 posts)
7. Probably relatives and friends of the guy will fill in the gaps.
Response to NightWatcher (Reply #5)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 07:36 AM
Star Member JI7 (63,088 posts)
8. isn't he a registered sex offender ?
Response to JI7 (Reply #8)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 08:39 AM
Star Member highplainsdem (13,913 posts)
13. No. That was misidentification with a different Stephen Paddock, different middle name.
Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 07:42 AM
Star Member lapfog_1 (17,032 posts)
9. I'm a near sixty year old white guy
I helped invent the Internet... wrote software for the Arpanet back in the early 1970's.
I've had email since the early 1980s.
Friends of mine and I invented some of those acronyms like LOL and ROTFLMAO etc.
I have a twitter account and a facebook account ( and a myspace account before that)... but I do not really use them.
The only "social media" I really use is "linked in" and then only for my professional purpose.
Oh, and DU!
Response to lapfog_1 (Reply #9)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 08:37 AM
burnbaby (412 posts)
12. did you work for bb&n
in Cambridge ?
Response to burnbaby (Reply #12)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 08:39 AM
Star Member lapfog_1 (17,032 posts)
16. nope...
wrote software for the BBN IMP however... as an undergrad in college. Interface between the IMP and an IBM 370 and a Honeywell 66/60.
Dinosaus roamed the earth too.
Response to lapfog_1 (Reply #16)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 08:49 AM
burnbaby (412 posts)
21. wow I forgot about the honeywell66/60
didn't last too long. I'm trying to get two more years out of this business, but it is not looking good
Response to burnbaby (Reply #21)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 09:38 AM
mitch96 (790 posts)
33. Crap, that puts my PDP 11 to shame
I don't know why but I still remember the boot sequence... Old habits die hard..
m
Hum, I guess if you do anythig enough.
Response to mitch96 (Reply #33)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 10:36 AM
burnbaby (412 posts)
36. OMG PDP 1170
I remember when the vax 750 was suppose to be the best of times!! I thought going from 16bpi tapes to 32 bpi tapes was fabulous. LOL ok we are old
Response to burnbaby (Reply #36)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 01:03 PM
mitch96 (790 posts)
40. How's about removable "storage" disks the size of pizza
that would hold only 1k of data.... whooo hooo!!
I think the one we used was a PDP 11-34
Yes we are antiques... or is it that we are "legacy" models...
m
Response to mitch96 (Reply #40)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 02:26 PM
burnbaby (412 posts)
42. they were heavy
did you ever put one in the wrong way? I didn't but a woman I worked with did. Powdered dust ever where, disk crash had a different meaning back then. She almost got fired
I feel so close to you and we are a legacy in our own mind
Response to lapfog_1 (Reply #9)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 08:50 AM
Bengus81 (1,689 posts)
22. But...were you ever on Qlink in eh...83/84?? LOL!!.....
Response to lapfog_1 (Reply #9)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 05:11 PM
Star Member fleabiscuit (3,204 posts)
45. And you mean "Internet" too.
Lots of folks don't realize there was "internet" before the http Web.
And all text based. I use to use a yellow tablet to track where I had been.
Response to fleabiscuit (Reply #45)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 05:24 PM
Star Member lapfog_1 (17,032 posts)
50. Wasn't called that back then...
As we joked in our class... "Much has been written about the Arpanet... we are here to write a little more"
Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 08:13 AM
Watchfoxheadexplodes (589 posts)
10. My tinfoil maybe shows but
If if he has Facebook and it was full of anti trump or Hillary
Would we ever know?
If it was Trump you would have known ten seconds later.
Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 08:39 AM
WhiskeyGrinder (1,028 posts)
15. I'm not.
Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 08:47 AM
Lee-Lee (4,463 posts)
19. Not uncommon for older folks to not have it or many have fake names
Part of what I do for a living is look at people social media lives when we are considering them for employment that involves a security clearance. I don't do the clearance investigations, what I do is weed out the people who won't get one so we don't waste time and money bring them and submitting a cleanrace that later gets denied.
Over age 50 it's very common for people to have no social media presence or very minimal. If your under 50 it starts looking odd. Under 45 and it raises alarm bells and makes me dig deep.
It is also more and more common to find people using modified version of their names or fake names on social media these day. While it violates the terms of service for most services it's not enforced at all.
And lots of people on the advice of people who help people job hunt run two pages anymore, if they are the kind that have any political or other posts that may not be liked by all. It's not uncommon for "John Gibson" who is a neo-Confederate to have his regular John Gibson page with posts about Jesus and grandkids and pictures of his dogs that gets barely any use, but also have a page with a name like "Johnny Reb G" where he posts all his neo-confederate garbage and is in all the hate group pages. When he applies for jobs and people search him out they just see the public face page.
However there are lots of tools out there that let me link up pages with people, based on mutual friends, posting habits, posting locations etc that let me know that the two pages appear related, then I can dig from there. I used that example because it's one I found not long ago with different names but same concept.
It may be that he has social media it's just not under a name anyone is associating with him yet. But LE has the tools to find that if it's there.
Hum, would that be like moles DU.
Response to Lee-Lee (Reply #19)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 09:25 AM
Kolesar (31,026 posts)
28. Canadian border police found a blog posting of a man who tried LSD 20 years ago
...and turned him back to America at the control point. That was on NPR a decade ago.
Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 09:04 AM
Star Member peggysue2 (729 posts)
23. Not that surprising
Although most people regardless of age are computer/internet oriented (even my 89 year old mother-in-law had her own computer), many older Americans are not on social media platforms. However, the cops could glean information by looking at the man's search history along with neighbor and family input. His family (brother) seemed to be caught off guard and had no information.
Read this morning that there was a woman at the concert who was yelling "You're all going to die tonight." Not sure if that's been verified but the article said she was escorted from the area. Could be a coincidence--some crazy person--or just a story circulated throughout the crowd. Also a companion, a woman, has been located out of country who does not appear connected to the shooting.
Sounds like another tragic, senseless act of violence. Makes you wonder if it will ever stop. Or if this is simply the new normal.
Awful.
Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 09:15 AM
Star Member MrScorpio (67,720 posts)
24. He was a 64yo white guy gun nut
I'm not surprised.
Now, maybe if he was half that age...
Response to MrScorpio (Reply #24)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 09:27 AM
roamer65 (12,612 posts)
29. Yes. He was. He had a fully automatic weapon.
That is illegal.
Response to roamer65 (Reply #29)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 09:56 AM
Star Member northoftheborder (5,547 posts)
34. Not in Nevada.
Just heard on MSNBC that Nevada has NO gun laws. No registration, no limit, no nothing.
Response to northoftheborder (Reply #34)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 11:59 AM
cevans1775 (2 posts)
38. Falls Under Federal Law, Not State.
"There are generally three ways to own a NFA weapon: as an individual, through a gun trust, or as a Limited Liability Company (LLC). Legal possession of an NFA firearm by an individual requires transfer of registration within the NFA registry. An individual owner does not need to be an NFA dealer to buy Title II. The sale and purchase of NFA is, however, taxed and regulated, as follows:
All NFA items must be registered with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF). Private owners wishing to purchase an NFA item must obtain approval from the ATF, pass an extensive background check to include submitting a photograph and fingerprints, fully register the firearm, receive ATF written permission before moving the firearm across state lines, and pay a tax.[21] The request to transfer ownership of an NFA item is made on an ATF Form 4.[22]"
Since he was not able to legally obtain a firearm capable of the rate of fire observed without an extensive background check and federal registration through the ATF, there are three possible ways he could have obtained these weapons:
1- The ATF background check (typically an 8-12 month process) did not discover any issues that would have red-flagged him from being able to legally establish an NFA Title II trust and purchase these types of firearms, along with the required tax stamp issued by the ATF.
2- He purchased the firearms illegally, through a black-market source either in the US, or smuggled from abroad. Could also be a legitimate dealer who illegally sold the firearm to him, but not likely at all, since that weapon can still be traced back to the FFL. A legitimate dealer doing that would be about as smart as stealing a cell phone and using it with the original SIM card. They're pretty much guaranteed to get caught.
3- He, or someone else, illegally manufactured the weapons, or illegally modified a standard single-shot weapon. Both of these require a great deal of skill, and access to expensive manufacturing equipment. However, there are cases of illegal firearms being made by hand in places like the Philippines. Based on the performance of the weapons in the video, they were not likely made by hand.
Not trying to argue one way or the other. Just stating what we know, in order to narrow down the next logical step in determining how this could happen. It is very clear that he didn't just walk into the local gun store and buy these off the shelf without an extensive amount of oversight, or at least that oversight being required by law. We can't at this point rule out a failure in the human element throughout the process(corrupt/inept govt officials, dealer acting illegally, etc.). Hopefully we will get more details as the investigation moves on in the near future.
Response to cevans1775 (Reply #38)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 02:48 PM
Star Member gopiscrap (16,000 posts)
43. welcome to DU
Response to northoftheborder (Reply #34)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 03:02 PM
Star Member ileus (15,214 posts)
44. Still need a 200 buck tax stamp and background check for class III.
Response to northoftheborder (Reply #34)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 05:19 PM
Codeine (18,423 posts)
49. That's not accurate. nt
Response to roamer65 (Reply #29)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 05:18 PM
Star Member fleabiscuit (3,204 posts)
48. May have been a bump trigger. Not that it matters to the dead and wounded.
Now congress is going to decide on silencers. Maybe they don't want to panic people so fast when a nut is shooting at them.
Response to fleabiscuit (Reply #48)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 06:31 PM
cevans1775 (2 posts)
52. Silencers are a fairy tale made up by Hollywood.
Congress is looking to lift the Title II tax stamp requirement for purchase of a suppressor. They don't silence the weapon. It is still quite loud. It simply reduces the decibel level so that anyone in the general vicinity of the firearm without hearing protection doesn't go deaf when it's fired. Hence why HR367 is called the "Hearing Protection Act of 2017". It's actually a safety device, not the magical total sound eliminator you've seen in James Bond films.
Standing in the middle, it's east to see how uneducated both sides of the party line are on various subjects...
Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 09:22 AM
Kolesar (31,026 posts)
27. If there is a gungeoneer who quits posting abruptly...
Then we found him.
Yup. I wouldn't doubt it. Could be one of theirs what with their wanting to start a revolution.
Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 09:30 AM
Coventina (17,032 posts)
31. DU is the closest thing to social media I have.
I'm not on FB, Twitter, or whatever the other things are.
Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 09:58 AM
Star Member redstatebluegirl (2,945 posts)
35. If you searched yourself this morning it may have been removed by police.
Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 01:02 PM
Star Member Eliot Rosewater (7,689 posts)
39. What do we call an event that is 100% predictable, guaranteed to happen
(ya know, given how easy it is to get guns, that we have more guns than people, etc)
and then happens?
And dont pray after the event for god's sake , pray that tomorrow legislation is drafted to allow us to follow the constitution which limits access to well regulated militias.
Or dont pray at all given how silly it is to believe in an invisible man in the sky.
Anyone else notice Rosebud seem to have become quite a prolific poster in a short time? Recently unemployed?
Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 01:05 PM
GusBob (2,838 posts)
41. Spent all his time gambling
Now if there is such a thing as a gamblers newsgroup, he might have been there
Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)Mon Oct 2, 2017, 05:18 PM
Codeine (18,423 posts)
47. There are quite a few people
who simply do not interact with social media in any way. I myself enjoy discussion boards and forums, but I don't use Facebook or Twitter anymore, and I never used Instagram outside of a work application.
Bada bing bada BOOM. AlGor3 is outted in
BOLD above. He invented the Internet don't ya know!
