subway cat tells us who bullies are

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3808934

Oh my.

This is a dreadfully, drearily, long bonfire by the subway cat, so I edited things out; these apparently aren't the subway cat's thoughts, but stuff the subway cat collected from other sources.  The original bonfire is nearly 50% nothing but links.

undergroundpanther  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-16-08 04:56 PM
Original message

it's who they are...that's the problem
   
Bullies like us to think they are like gods

That they are creating reality.

A Bus aide once said "We're an empire," the aide told the reporter, "and when we act, we create our own reality.)

Bullies want a reality where they can do whatever they want and be accountable to no one.They want to be lords.

So,Bullies want us to believe in social stratification.

Bullies want to get us to believe might makes right is reality,as long as they get to be the dictator...

Bullies want us to forget the things they want are destructive,like injustice,Claiming the suffering is only in our heads.The way things are has been socially engineered by those who want us to live this way and it has been ongoing for a very long time.

Maintaining this belief in social stratification ,of haves and have nots,a modified version of the divine rights of kings in our minds as valid and 'real' only matters to the people who take what is not theirs to take and giving nothing in return,justifying greed of having it all and getting away with anything they do that is predatory or abusive.

In nature, stratification involves securing a place within the food chain, not puffing up morally bankrupt egos.

The belief, The one claiming YOU are creating your own reality,it has very toxic social byproducts few dare mention.

This YCYOR belief creates justification for a class system,of betters and worses.

This creation'power and the right to perks,gets "proven" because not everyone can create the appearance of making their own reality as they would desire it to be, because of obstacles are preventing them. No matter how hard they try they never seem to"make it" and their ship never arrives. The elites KNOW this is how most of us live ,and engineered our culture to be built around this hierarchy lie,and all it's viciousness is seen as excusable because the elite/psychopaths/greed-heads/bullies are always looking for a way to justify their own 'charmed' lives and depraved agendas.

Those who "succeed" more than Thou,get social perks, to determine whom are the people deemed worth less than themselves.

This judgment game is not pressed up wards to the extent is is pressed down wards by the middle levels of the social strata.It never gets so intense to threaten the'elites'positions of power often enough.

Because the most popular dominant assholes deem even the'middle class 'lessors'by using the same rationalizations the middle class applies to the poor to snub them.

Bullshit like, because they don't try hard enough,or they are 'foolish'(moral inferiority)they got themselves into'debts'(they are lessor because they owe more than they have and fell for a credit con or had a crisis to contend with) or these lessors are inferiors because they have issues(psychological problems or wounds).Being disabled ,poor,mentally ill,or any manner of setbacks are according to those without them,what make the 'weak' ,weak, therefore less deserving. (the eugenics excuses come to mind next).

So basically the lie the lessors are told is, if you can't "hack it" and claw your way to elite status,in a system hellbent on crushing your well being,abusing you,interfering with your success and esteem in life ..only you are to blame,you failed to BE SOMEBODY..many kinds of therapy and religious beliefs teach this too.

So by default if you are hurt,poor or different you are inferior to those who have what you do not have.. It is idealogical circle jerk of self justification ,defending a belief,a lie that excludes based on an arbitrary social hierarchy measuring stick that is only real to us, because we believe in it's power.It's all in our HEADS and why we do not QUESTION these beliefs? I wonder..

No person or persons creates this collective reality,or their own reality,outside their own minds that is, they just like to PRETEND they can create reality,because it feels 'powerful',and others play along with the game. That's the PROBLEM. .But honestly, life in this reality here, it hurts, and it really it sucks for many people because it's a mixed bag at best.Life has no purpose or consistency to it so to feel in control people pretend it has a purpose,and start making up gods and myths and assigning purposes and categories...

Universally, the early development of human beings involves meeting the basic human needs of safety, trust, and a sense of one’s ability to impact the world. When a baby is born, the infant experiences total reliance on a parent figure to fulfill all needs. The parent, usually a mother, provides nourishment, protection, and physical care. When the child is hungry and cries, he or she is nourished. The child is protected from the cold and from danger. As a result of having these basic needs met, the infant begins to perceive the world as a safe place.Thus, a sense of both safety and trust is developed.

But this sense of safety and security fades away somewhat because as non abused kids grow up they may realize this is untrue because the Earth really is violent uncontrollable and unpredictable place that can be safe or feel that way sometimes..Not many people can handle facing the magnitude of life's unjust,meaningless,or imposed by nature or by other bad people,Looking at this suffering anxiety consumes the un -traumatized.They so desire to pretend the world is just because they want to feel secure and feel like they have a future.That desire to trust,in the power of the parents protection/denial of betrayal ,and trust in'leaders' to be protectors and guides ultimately helps create victims. The toxic side of the cherished beliefs non-traumatized people have undermines justice and keeps the world as it is.

Traumatized people are scarred into a long lasting state of vigilance and insecurity.They see and live through what others have the luxury to avoid dealing with,or denying.because they want to think it can't happen to them,they can't lose,and lose status.

So when they hear a traumatized person speak of what happened ,they are upset by it,defensive, and want to think the victim is who created the problem.They desire to blame the victim because if the victim was not to blame for'creating the bad reality of being brutalized..The implied message of a victims story is a warning, to the non-traumatized about vulnerability.

The traumatized and non-traumatized both are in danger and the world is unjust for everyone, ,whether they see it or not,manage to get by in life unhurt or not..

Traumatized people do not see the world as non traumatized people do,they see reality for what it is..Some can rebuild a feeling of safety or coping,others cannot,but one thing changes,forever.They know the world is unjust and shit happens and it hurts..Some seek to find out why as part of recovering.

At any age, the experience of torture and trauma significantly disrupts the sense of safety, trust and the ability to impact the world that was established in infancy. When tortured, the individual experiences profound vulnerability and finds the world to be unsafe. The ability to trust other human beings is disrupted. Further, victims find that their own ability to take action to protect self, to escape, or to stop the abuse make absolutely no impact on what is occurring. Consequently, the critical and primary experiences of trust, safety, and the ability to impact the world are fractured.

And victims are taught living in a stratified culture that thinks people can create their own reality, will blame themselves first.

"People would rather feel guilty than helpless," Spiegel said. "Helplessness is the essence of trauma."

Admitting helplessness means you will be seen as having a WEAKNESS,and it could be exploited by those "higher" on the various types of social stratification ladders.And it is a signal to bullies to try to censor you or bully you into silence.The patters are there and can be observed right here on DU with certain subjects are discussed.

Children blame themselves often in dysfunctional homes.and the number of dysfunctional homes in this country is staggering,so these dysfunctions and traumas do have an impact on how our society functions..Society's hierarchy belief system reinforces this self blame game right into adulthood. This self blame, evolves into a huge denial game with shared often unquestioned belief systems based in exploiting each others weaknesses and acting predatory and dominating and permitting and rewarding such behaviors that create victims to blame.

The so called elites bullshit plenty about the nature of reality ,they use all manners of symbolic authority to lend an air of credence and authenticity to what they say..they pull an"elite" card..simply to JUSTIFY silencing the traumatized, perpetuate unfairness,unjustness,their own greed,power tripping, even cruel things like torturer or exploiting kids,all that they want and do to others and believe they are entitled to do because of WHO they are..The goal of all this language twisting is to get people to BELIEVE in the bullies 'created' self serving kind of reality,as if it was TRUE or REAL for all of us,too..

There are varying kinds of ideologies used to "justify" why there are different levels of stratification(classes, if you will) in our society. The most pervasive (and mostly incorrect) ideology is that somehow the poor are responsible for their lot in life.A.K.A..Victim blaming.and this sort of ideology can be applied to any issue.

To a Bully..

Torture isn't Really torture.I's the victims fault.

A crime isn't a crime if the victim isn't Really, victimized and if the victim never SAYS anything happened.

Well it didn't happen if nothing is said right? ,Plausible deniability..We can't simply reply to this pervasive problem killing us all with "I can't do anything about it unless I see it.".Bullies know the abuses of power must be done secretly in private,behind closed doors,(like the G-8 summits) because of this demand to prove injustices to do anything about them must remain intact.

And the effects of trauma upon memory and a person,it works in a bullies favor too.

How those in power define their interests. When well-known human rights abusers and war criminals continue to hold high office, they are unlikely to permit the development of processes that will hold them and others accountable.

Bullies use fear to get away with unacceptable behavior. Their victims (the “bullied”) fear continued abuse if they tell. Bystanders fear becoming the next victim. The “bullied” suffer in silence while repeatedly getting harassed. Bystanders stay silent to avoid the unwanted attention. It’s a vicious, unending cycle.

Bullies try to get us to believe stuff like:

Torture doesn't do harm if it's all "no touch" water-boards,stress and psychological mind ****ing.They want to convert,control and dominate the world and every being in it by any means they can.

Lying to people isn't just necessary it is good to bullies.

Might makes right..as long as the right people rule the empire

The neocon lifestyle is by nature cancer like..

Free market/trickle down bullshit.

The Neocons are part of conservatism,they believe in Conservatism is the ideal belief system for bullies and bystanders. Conservatism itself is anti democratic,and sickening as a belief system,it is poison to a community and to freedom..conservatisism is an excuse for the systematic stratification and domination of others. It is how it is because of the types of personality traits most conservatives share,so the belief system benefits them..

What are people benefiting from the just world theory and who justify their ill gotten gains really scared of?

It's all because of their bad personalities schoolyard bullies to tyrant fathers,to neocon presidents, do these things to other people.

As long as we believe the bully the 'alphas' have right to inflict domination,lead, oppress or ruin others lives,it will stifle all the better things about humanity.

The bullies lack what makes us humane,able to relate to others without having a person in the group be a top or others be the bottom.

No one should have it all,no one should be left out..All should have SOME and share.

But certain personalities and the bodies they inhabit all because of who they are..will make sure this other way will never be real enough to enough people,to make usgrow wise enough to let the bully tapeworm empire threatening to dominate us all,just go away from lack of bystanders ,believers..and enablers.It doesn't have to be this way,as it has been done for so long,you know.

One sees the subway cat is on a slightly modified pharmacuetical regimen, than she had been two days ago.

The subway cat is one ****ed-up chick.

And speaking of--the new High Priestess of Moloch to the primitiives:

Warpy  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-16-08 05:06 PM
Response to Original message

1. Anybody who survived a public middle school knows the only way to deal with a bully is to give him a bloody nose.

Yes, he'll probably kick your ass, but it'll be the last time. He knows you'll try to hurt him and he prefers easier targets.

That's why Kerry needed to sue Corsi and O'Neil. It's why Obama needs to sue Corsi. They need to be hit in the wallet. Then they'll find a few easier targets besides Democratic front runners.

[Chris_]

Frank, you have the patience of a saint.  I could only make it about 3 or 4 paragraphs.

It could probably summarized by the "dicks **** assholes" speech from Team America.

[franksolich]

Frank, you have the patience of a saint.  I could only make it about 3 or 4 paragraphs.

It could probably summarized by the "dicks **** assholes" speech from Team America.

Essentially, the subway cat's describing herself.

[Chris_]

That's why Kerry needed to sue Corsi and O'Neil. It's why Obama needs to sue Corsi. They need to be hit in the wallet. Then they'll find a few easier targets besides Democratic front runners.

Psst -- warpy -- come here -- closer, closer.  Just between you and me and the walls, when being sued for libel/slander TRUTH IS AN ABSOLUTE DEFENSE YOU IDIOT!

[Vagabond]

undergroundpanther  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-16-08 04:56 PM
Crime isn't a crime unless the victim is victimized

undergroundpanther  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-16-08 04:56 PM
and if the victim never SAYS anything happened.

Especially since it is proven that authorities have a hard time prosecuting a crime they don't know about.

undergroundpanther  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-16-08 04:56 PM
Torture doesn't do harm if it's all "no touch" water-boards,stress and psychological mind *******.They want to convert,control and dominate the world and every being in it by any means they can.

Yeah, those filthy Islamic fascists.....oh, wait.

undergroundpanther  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-16-08 04:56 PM
There are varying kinds of ideologies used to "justify" why there are different levels of stratification(classes, if you will) in our society. The most pervasive (and mostly incorrect) ideology is that somehow the poor are responsible for their lot in life.A.K.A..Victim blaming.and this sort of ideology can be applied to any issue.

Let's see.  I have known some poor people in my time.  Their defining characteristics, didn't get up early for work, were lazy at work, dropped out of high school, had kids before they were married, got into drug and alcohol problems, and such.  Yep definitely thier own choice.

On the other hand, we have a guy at work that is slightly mentally handicapped.  Generally, we have to pair him with somebody and make the instructions a little easier for him, he is a bit slower to grasp and a bit quicker to forget.  But, he always shows up on time and will work as long as we let him.  In fact, we just promoted him recently.  He has limitations, but PMs actually ask to have him on our projects.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Bullies like us to think they are like gods

That they are creating reality.

A Bus aide once said "We're an empire," the aide told the reporter, "and when we act, we create our own reality.)

Bullies want a reality where they can do whatever they want and be accountable to no one.They want to be lords.

So,Bullies want us to believe in social stratification.

Bullies want to get us to believe might makes right is reality,as long as they get to be the dictator...

Bullies want us to forget the things they want are destructive,like injustice,Claiming the suffering is only in our heads.The way things are has been socially engineered by those who want us to live this way and it has been ongoing for a very long time.

Is this coming from the self-actualization and moral relativism crowd?

[franksolich]

Frank, you have the patience of a saint.  I could only make it about 3 or 4 paragraphs.

I dunno.

I read every word the subway cat and the phalloscraping primitive write, because I'm trying to detect what medications they're using.

Doug's ex-wife would be a good Exhibit A when it comes to detecting pharmaceuticals, but Doug's ex-wife's brain is so scrambled now it would be like trying to dissect vomit.

A few weeks ago, a physician gave me a medical textbook dealing with mood-altering pharmaceuticals and their effects--it's bigger, and smaller-printed, than the complete IRS manual--and it's been a wealth of information.

Of course, I'll never get to the point of actually detecting the exact medications, but it has been eminently useful in determining whenever the subway cat or the phalloscraping primitive are put on new medications, or taken off old medications.

I do believe the phalloscraping primitive is coming up on a change soon, like in about two or three weeks.

It's really remarkable, how much the primitives unwittingly reveal about themselves.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Dieter finds she has grown tiresome.

[DixieBelle]

^LOL!

Yeah, I need serious phramacological assistance to read her litterbox leavins'.

[Chris_]

I couldn't make it past the first sentence. As verbose as her posts are getting I'm beginning to wonder if they've somehow spliced her dna with some of Wee Willie's.

[miskie]

The sad thing is Pitt's screeds are far far better than UP's - I can usually get through one of his sarcasm-laced rants, whereas UP's hatred for...everything.. has grown tiresome.

[Chris_]

Frank, you have the patience of a saint.  I could only make it about 3 or 4 paragraphs.

I dunno.

I read every word the subway cat and the phalloscraping primitive write, because I'm trying to detect what medications they're using.

Doug's ex-wife would be a good Exhibit A when it comes to detecting pharmaceuticals, but Doug's ex-wife's brain is so scrambled now it would be like trying to dissect vomit.

A few weeks ago, a physician gave me a medical textbook dealing with mood-altering pharmaceuticals and their effects--it's bigger, and smaller-printed, than the complete IRS manual--and it's been a wealth of information.

Of course, I'll never get to the point of actually detecting the exact medications, but it has been eminently useful in determining whenever the subway cat or the phalloscraping primitive are put on new medications, or taken off old medications.

I do believe the phalloscraping primitive is coming up on a change soon, like in about two or three weeks.

It's really remarkable, how much the primitives unwittingly reveal about themselves.

I forgot about your academic research interest in the island -- when studying something under the microscope, you have to note all the behaviors, not just the interesting ones.

As far as which pharmaceuticals she is taking goes. you can check the old "what are you taking" thread or, even better, hope they start a new one.
 

[BlueStateSaint]

I couldn't make it past the first sentence. As verbose as her posts are getting I'm beginning to wonder if they've somehow spliced her dna with some of Wee Willie's.

Three . . .

 

And the H5 to boot!

[MrsSmith]

Maintaining this belief in social stratification ,of haves and have nots,a modified version of the divine rights of kings in our minds as valid and 'real' only matters to the people who take what is not theirs to take and giving nothing in return,justifying greed of having it all and getting away with anything they do that is predatory or abusive.

Says the cat who does no work, nothing productive, but takes all she can.

The belief, The one claiming YOU are creating your own reality,it has very toxic social byproducts few dare mention.

Says the male cat trapped in a female human body.

Being disabled ,poor,mentally ill,or any manner of setbacks are according to those without them,what make the 'weak' ,weak, therefore less deserving. (the eugenics excuses come to mind next).

Which would be why the cat supports the party of eugenics.