I am SO glad we're finally just minutes away from the National Night Of Religiou

[Carl]

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Husb2Sparkly  (1000+ posts)         Sat Aug-16-08 07:13 PM
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I am SO glad we're finally just minutes away from the National Night Of Religious Pandering
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When will they do the National Clown Forum?

Or the League of Left Handed Aleutian Islanders?

How about the Coalition to Bring Back Tie Dyed Tee Shirts?

Presidential Candidates in a ****ing CHURCH.

Blech.

The bigotry and hatred is at full mast.

Malikshah  (1000+ posts)          Sat Aug-16-08 07:28 PM
Response to Reply #3
11. The US World, not the world. We're a laughing stock
   We are the laughing stock of the world for the pandering that goes on--as well as the power of pop-psychologists/pseudo-intellectuals like Warren, Graham and their ilk.

Yes, there's a long history of such pandering. But there was a long history of slavery, belief in the four humors, bloodletting, and belief in witches.

It is time for things to change in this country.

cliffordu  (1000+ posts)         Sat Aug-16-08 07:33 PM
Response to Reply #11
19. I agree, but the haters disguised as christians in this country
   would kill us all if it meant they could stay in power.

The last two killings haven't occurred in a vacuum.

No...that would be islamofacists who would and have promised to do that..you remember them,your friends in the struggle against the USA.
Effin idiot.

Malikshah  (1000+ posts)          Sat Aug-16-08 07:40 PM
Response to Reply #19
27. Too true. It is time to stop laughing at the ridiculousness of the GOP
   and their ilk (to me, laughing at them is not effective anymore).

It is time to publicly shame and then shun. It is time to condemn irrational thought for what it is

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cliffordu  (1000+ posts)         Sat Aug-16-08 07:50 PM
Response to Reply #27
37. As long as hate radio - and a lot of "christian" radio qualifies,
   they are going to have a majority of believers.

I met a group of heavily armed christian nuts a couple years ago. They're ready to be left behind...

Of course you did.

MrModerate  (1000+ posts)         Sat Aug-16-08 07:22 PM
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4. Sad fact #259: No one gets elected president in the US without . . .
   Edited on Sat Aug-16-08 07:24 PM by MrModerate
Professing avid Christian faith. Obama and (even) McCain are realists, regardless of what their personal beliefs may be. So they're doin' the god thing.

Yeah, it turns my stomach, but I'm in the minority that doesn't believe in supernatural explanations for natural phenomena.

However, the upside is that Obama can speak articulately about issues like faith and suchlike and McCain can't speak articulately about anything. This might be a pretaste of the debates.

Keep believin in your own religion.

Kutjara  (1000+ posts)          Sat Aug-16-08 07:25 PM
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8. Last night, the L. A. news channels were agog...
   Edited on Sat Aug-16-08 07:28 PM by Kutjara
...with how today's little inquisition would finally pin the candidates down on "the issues of greatest importance to voters." These issues are not, of course, war, poverty, health care, education, or even the economy. Oh no. Apparently, what the average no-job-no-insurance-in-hock-up-to-their-ears voter wants to know is which candidate is the bestest kisser of the Sky Fairy's ass in the whole wide world.

People don't care about what Obama or McCain think about real stuff, apparently; they want to know how much the Presidential contenders believe in made up stuff, for only someone who really truly believes in comforting fantasies has the kind of clear-headed rationality needed to lead a modern superpower.

You mean made up stuff like what Al Gore says?

Kutjara  (1000+ posts)          Sat Aug-16-08 07:45 PM
Response to Reply #13
30. Last time I checked...
   Edited on Sat Aug-16-08 07:47 PM by Kutjara
...America wasn't a muslim nation, so holding the event in a mosque would have very different connotations from holding it in a Christian church. Like it or not, Christianity has become a fourth branch of government in this country, and events like this only serve to cement the idea in people's minds.

If the candidates had gone to a mosque, synagogue, temple, or wooded glade, it wouldn't have sent anything like the message of "State religion" this little "Evening with Torquemada" does. Instead, it would have communicated far more positive notions of inclusiveness and multiculturalism. But that was never going to happen. Not in Gahd's Country.

You are simply a self deluded fool.

Blue_In_AK  (1000+ posts)        Sat Aug-16-08 07:39 PM
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25. I won't be watching.
   Edited on Sat Aug-16-08 07:39 PM by Blue_In_AK
It makes me a little ill.

Makes one wonder what force it is that makes them respond with such hatred against anything Christian.

[Happy Fun Ball]

Makes one wonder what force it is that makes them respond with such hatred against anything Christian.

[Chris]

Malikshah  (1000+ posts)        Sat Aug-16-08 07:28 PM
Response to Reply #3
11. We are the laughing stock of the world for the pandering that goes on.

Pandering... I guess that's why  the Democratic nominee field looked like an Affirmative Action form that had had every box checked on it. 

[FlaGator]

OK. I have no doubts now. DU is actually a message board in some bizzaro world/parallel universe that through some strange quirk of quantum physics we are able to access via the internet in our reality.

[Bondai]

DUmmies are afraid of God, most brain dead fools respond like they do. They will not admit that there is anything or anyone that is superior to them in any way.

[FlaGator]

DUmmies are afraid of God, most brain dead fools respond like they do. They will not admit that there is anything or anyone that is superior to them in any way.

Afraid is probably an understatement. With the lifestyles many of them live their only hope is that there is no God. If they face the fact that God exists then they'll have to change and they love their hatred to much to willingly give it up.

[Vagabond]

DUmmies are afraid of God, most brain dead fools respond like they do. They will not admit that there is anything or anyone that is superior to them in any way.

Because, to admit a God means there could be consequences to their actions.  Liberals hate nothing, even over all the other things they hate, worse than consequences.

[jinxmchue]

Presidential Candidates in a ****ing CHURCH.

Oh, so this offends you?

THEN WHY ARE YOU VOTING FOR DEMOCRATS, NITWIT???

I see way more Democrats pandering to voters in church way more often than any Republican.  Bill Clinton, Gore, Hillary, Kerry, and now Obamessiah.

It's funny how the Republicans are better at separating church and state than the Democrats are.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Presidential Candidates in a ****ing CHURCH.

Oh, so this offends you?

THEN WHY ARE YOU VOTING FOR DEMOCRATS, NITWIT???

I see way more Democrats pandering to voters in church way more often than any Republican.  Bill Clinton, Gore, Hillary, Kerry, and now Obamessiah.

It's funny how the Republicans are better at separating church and state than the Democrats are.

Well, actually they would think it was a fantastic idea if it was a Black chruch.  Their ability to be offended by religion is highly selective.

[Carl]

Presidential Candidates in a ******* CHURCH.

Oh, so this offends you?

THEN WHY ARE YOU VOTING FOR DEMOCRATS, NITWIT???

I see way more Democrats pandering to voters in church way more often than any Republican.  Bill Clinton, Gore, Hillary, Kerry, and now Obamessiah.

It's funny how the Republicans are better at separating church and state than the Democrats are.

Well, actually they would think it was a fantastic idea if it was a Black chruch.  Their ability to be offended by religion is highly selective.

It is based on whether the religion expects commitment and some sacrifice.
If it is a do as you please and feel good about yourself thing with a phony lib social gospel as the core then they are all for it.

[Chris_]

Presidential Candidates in a ******* CHURCH.

Oh, so this offends you?

THEN WHY ARE YOU VOTING FOR DEMOCRATS, NITWIT???

I see way more Democrats pandering to voters in church way more often than any Republican.  Bill Clinton, Gore, Hillary, Kerry, and now Obamessiah.

It's funny how the Republicans are better at separating church and state than the Democrats are.

Notice how Dems have a need to prove religious affiliation while it's a given with Republicans?

[MrsSmith]

cliffordu  (1000+ posts)         Sat Aug-16-08 07:50 PM
Response to Reply #27
37. As long as hate radio - and a lot of "christian" radio qualifies,
   they are going to have a majority of believers.

I met a group of heavily armed christian nuts a couple years ago. They're ready to be left behind...

I listen to a lot of Christian radio...so am wondering what cliff means?  Maybe all those songs about praising Jesus?  Or maybe the Focus shows, which are something like 90% about hateful things like marriage counseling, raising children, home schooling, prison ministries, overseas ministries, etc.  Or maybe the sermons, a lot of DUmp Monkeys seem to think that all Scripture is hate speech...   

[delilahmused]

cliffordu  (1000+ posts)         Sat Aug-16-08 07:50 PM
Response to Reply #27
37. As long as hate radio - and a lot of "christian" radio qualifies,
   they are going to have a majority of believers.

I met a group of heavily armed christian nuts a couple years ago. They're ready to be left behind...

I listen to a lot of Christian radio...so am wondering what cliff means?  Maybe all those songs about praising Jesus?  Or maybe the Focus shows, which are something like 90% about hateful things like marriage counseling, raising children, home schooling, prison ministries, overseas ministries, etc.  Or maybe the sermons, a lot of DUmp Monkeys seem to think that all Scripture is hate speech...   

Hate is simply anything they don't agree with. If Orwell would've had Skin's Island he wouldn't have needed a farm.

Cindie

[BlueStateSaint]

cliffordu  (1000+ posts)         Sat Aug-16-08 07:50 PM
Response to Reply #27
37. As long as hate radio - and a lot of "christian" radio qualifies,
   they are going to have a majority of believers.

I met a group of heavily armed christian nuts a couple years ago. They're ready to be left behind...

I listen to a lot of Christian radio...so am wondering what cliff means?  Maybe all those songs about praising Jesus?  Or maybe the Focus shows, which are something like 90% about hateful things like marriage counseling, raising children, home schooling, prison ministries, overseas ministries, etc.  Or maybe the sermons, a lot of DUmp Monkeys seem to think that all Scripture is hate speech...   

Hate is simply anything they don't agree with. If Orwell would've had Skin's Island he wouldn't have needed a farm.

Cindie

Two . . . 

And the H5.

[FlaGator]

cliffordu  (1000+ posts)         Sat Aug-16-08 07:50 PM
Response to Reply #27
37. As long as hate radio - and a lot of "christian" radio qualifies,
   they are going to have a majority of believers.

I met a group of heavily armed christian nuts a couple years ago. They're ready to be left behind...

I listen to a lot of Christian radio...so am wondering what cliff means?  Maybe all those songs about praising Jesus?  Or maybe the Focus shows, which are something like 90% about hateful things like marriage counseling, raising children, home schooling, prison ministries, overseas ministries, etc.  Or maybe the sermons, a lot of DUmp Monkeys seem to think that all Scripture is hate speech...   

Hate is simply anything they don't agree with. If Orwell would've had Skin's Island he wouldn't have needed a farm.

Cindie

Gilligan's Island?

[MrsSmith]

cliffordu  (1000+ posts)         Sat Aug-16-08 07:50 PM
Response to Reply #27
37. As long as hate radio - and a lot of "christian" radio qualifies,
   they are going to have a majority of believers.

I met a group of heavily armed christian nuts a couple years ago. They're ready to be left behind...

I listen to a lot of Christian radio...so am wondering what cliff means?  Maybe all those songs about praising Jesus?  Or maybe the Focus shows, which are something like 90% about hateful things like marriage counseling, raising children, home schooling, prison ministries, overseas ministries, etc.  Or maybe the sermons, a lot of DUmp Monkeys seem to think that all Scripture is hate speech...   

Hate is simply anything they don't agree with. If Orwell would've had Skin's Island he wouldn't have needed a farm.

Cindie

[Red October]

I'm just curious... for the Democrats and liberals who absolutely BRISTLE when right-wingers accuse you of being "anti-Christian," what say you when you encounter threads like this?  I mean, I've heard all kinds of belly-aching from Democrats who've "GONE TO THE SAME CHURCH FOR 30 YEARS, DAMMIT!  HOW DARE YOU QUESTION MY FAITH!"  And yet, at any liberal board, this is the popular consensus.  How on earth do the holy-dems justify it?  I'm just curious. 

[LC EFA]

I'm just curious... for the Democrats and liberals who absolutely BRISTLE when right-wingers accuse you of being "anti-Christian," what say you when you encounter threads like this?  I mean, I've heard all kinds of belly-aching from Democrats who've "GONE TO THE SAME CHURCH FOR 30 YEARS, DAMMIT!  HOW DARE YOU QUESTION MY FAITH!"  And yet, at any liberal board, this is the popular consensus.  How on earth do the holy-dems justify it?  I'm just curious. 

It's the same mental disorder that allows people to complain about the USA becoming a fascist-theocracy while being ardent supporters of communist and theocratic entites external to the USA.

The same disorder that enables them to see murdering an unborn child as acceptable, while the state execution of a confessed and condemned criminal is not.

[Toastedturningtidelegs]

Beregond2 (1000+ posts)      Sat Aug-16-08 07:50 PM
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38. Is there anything more ridiculous
 than the fear of religion on this board? What country do you think you are living in? How is it "pandering" to address a topic that is of importance in the lives of the vast majority of the population? 

Besides the hatred for the US military? No....But Beregond2 is absolutely right....It is fear.