Is it time to swiftboat McCain.

[dutch508]

What's that Frank? DUmmies lie. They lie all the time?

edhopper  (1000+ posts)     Thu Aug-14-08 08:14 PM
Original message
Is it time to swiftboat McCain.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6637398
Make him spend campaign money to fight allegations that...let's say....

He's an adulterer
A poor student who got into the Naval Academy on family connections
Was embroiled in a major banking scandal
Couldn't fly planes worth shit
Has a campaign completely staffed by lobbyists
Is married to a very wealthy woman who has bought them 8-9 homes
Has supported without reservations the biggest foreign policy debacle in U S history.

Also that,
He would rather pollute the environment than lose an election
Would rather bankrupt the country than lose an election
Would rather stoop to the lowest campaign practices than lose an election

He can spend his time trying to tell us how it isn't true.

faygokid  (1000+ posts)        Thu Aug-14-08 08:24 PM
Response to Reply #4
8. Precisely. The Swift Boaters are a Rove invention: Take your opponent's strength, and turn it.
 We are amateurs here. Telling the truth isn't the way Swift Boating is done.

They took decorated war hero John Kerry and made him out to be a coward, and proven draft dodger and AWOL National Guard member George W. Bush, and made him out to be the military's hero.

Now, that is Swift Boating. The OPs suggestion is not.

 
 

[Carl]

Kerry attempted to make his service a political issue when he used the images of him in uniform for commercials and then when he took the rostrum at the convention with a salute and the remark "reporting for duty".
He was forced to admit errors (lies) about his whereabouts and has not once been able to address what the Swiftboat veterans have revealed.

On the other hand DUmmies cling to an obviously fraudlent story that no sane person of either party believes as truthful.

Wonder what color the sky is in the primitives world?

[Lord Undies]

It won't work, DUmbasses.  Not just because no one pays any attention to you, but because your liberal media has spent the last decade building John McCain's reputation as a "maverick" and the perfect republican.  To slam him now means they have been lying to the nation.

See your dilemma, DUmbass.

[BannedFromDU]

What's that Frank? DUmmies lie. They lie all the time?

edhopper  (1000+ posts)     Thu Aug-14-08 08:14 PM
Original message
Is it time to swiftboat McCain.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6637398
Make him spend campaign money to fight allegations that...let's say....

He's an adulterer
A poor student who got into the Naval Academy on family connections
Was embroiled in a major banking scandal
Couldn't fly planes worth shit
Has a campaign completely staffed by lobbyists
Is married to a very wealthy woman who has bought them 8-9 homes
Has supported without reservations the biggest foreign policy debacle in U S history.

Also that,
He would rather pollute the environment than lose an election
Would rather bankrupt the country than lose an election
Would rather stoop to the lowest campaign practices than lose an election

He can spend his time trying to tell us how it isn't true.

faygokid  (1000+ posts)        Thu Aug-14-08 08:24 PM
Response to Reply #4
8. Precisely. The Swift Boaters are a Rove invention: Take your opponent's strength, and turn it.
 We are amateurs here. Telling the truth isn't the way Swift Boating is done.

They took decorated war hero John Kerry and made him out to be a coward, and proven draft dodger and AWOL National Guard member George W. Bush, and made him out to be the military's hero.

Now, that is Swift Boating. The OPs suggestion is not.

 
 

     Have fun with that, DUmmies. Let's see how far you get with a candidate like Obamohammad trying to poke holes in the record of a decorated POW. PLEASE do it.

     Somehow I think Obamohammad is going to have his hands full in October dealing with a slew of McCain ads full of Ayers, Wright, and other influential people in BHO's life.

     Your man is an empty suit, a neophyte. A rookie. If he doesn't get turned away by American voters first, there will be chunks of Obamohammad in Vladimir Putin's stool.

[franksolich]

By the way, did anybody ever prove the Swiftboat opponents of the Bostonian Billionaire wrong?



















































I didn't think so.

[MPCOA]

I just wish that someone would get the clue that you can't really be AWOL from the Guard or Reserve.

[Chris_]

Despite the DUmmy protest, to "swiftboat" means "to expose the truth in a purported history, especially (but not limited to) Military Service."

j f'ing kerry lied about his 4 month service in Vietnam and was exposed by his colleagues.  He whined his way into getting 3 owies into 3 "official" wounds, thus enabling him to invoke the 3-wound rule and get the hell out of there.  His one foray was a screaming run into an empty village, and he once again whined his way into a medal.  His :seared" memory has been factually proven to be a falsehood.

Compare that to the service John McCain provided.  Although not the best pilot (and McCain has never said otherwise), he still served and served admirably -- and of course he did his time in a Vietnam prison -- and TURNED DOWN a chance to be released if the release didn't include his brothers in arms.  Since the truth merely enhances McCain's service record, I think we should all invite "SwiftBoating" -- the truth works in his favor.

[dutch508]

I just wish that someone would get the clue that you can't really be AWOL from the Guard or Reserve.

um...yes you can be.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

They seem to undeerestimate teh voting public's ability to discern truth from BS.

Despite my misgivings about McCain this would be such a monumental and catastrophic strategic error I wish to do everything to encourage them to try.

[MPCOA]

I just wish that someone would get the clue that you can't really be AWOL from the Guard or Reserve.

um...yes you can be.

You can not be AWOL for a drill, you can be AWOL for active duty, but missing a drill is administrative.

[Chris_]

Swift boat away, call him on every lie he's told about his service.
Oh, wait, he never lied about his service.
Fin

[dutch508]

I just wish that someone would get the clue that you can't really be AWOL from the Guard or Reserve.

um...yes you can be.

You can not be AWOL for a drill, you can be AWOL for active duty, but missing a drill is administrative.

Technicality of phrases and standings. If a Guard or Reserve unit is mobilized and goes on Title 10 orders then a member of that unit who fails to be present for duty for a given period of time is AWOL. We have one soldier from a NG unit completing mobilation training prior to deployment who is AWOL.

[DumbAss Tanker]

I just wish that someone would get the clue that you can't really be AWOL from the Guard or Reserve.

um...yes you can be.

Only from AT or ADT, it is not legally possible to be AWOL from drill weekends since they are not ACTIVE duty, but "Inactive Duty for Training" aka IADT.  All the supposed "AWOL"  time involved in the allegations against Bush were scheduled IADT dates.

[USA4ME]

John Kerry served in Vietnam?

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[MPCOA]

I just wish that someone would get the clue that you can't really be AWOL from the Guard or Reserve.

um...yes you can be.

Only from AT or ADT, it is not legally possible to be AWOL from drill weekends since they are not ACTIVE duty, but "Inactive Duty for Training" aka IADT.  All the supposed "AWOL"  time involved in the allegations against Bush were scheduled IADT dates.

Thank you sir

[DixieBelle]

John Kerry served in Vietnam?

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Shocked me too!!!