I'm damn tired of blah blah blah... etc etc etc repeat...

[dutch508]

Star Member YoungDemCA (5,442 posts) https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029283096

I'm damn tired of rich people with ulterior motives trying to hijack the Democratic platform.

They are no friends to the people whom the Democratic Party represents (or claims to represent, at the very least).

If they sincerely want to help with the current American political crisis, they can always try to reclaim the Republican Party from the right-wing fanatics/Tea Party/Trump supporters or whatever the **** they call themselves these days. But I won't hold my breath on that.

 

Star Member WePurrsevere (19,376 posts)
1. Which rich people are you talking about? All of them or just specific ones? nt

Star Member DURHAM D (25,099 posts)
2. Could you list those things in the platform

that are under attack.

Here is the platform -

https://www.democrats.org/party-platform

pirateshipdude (406 posts)
4. This really did not work. I get you think it is an analogy, but it is not. Eom

Jim Lane (9,140 posts)
16. I think it did work.

I personally don't agree with using loaded words like "hijack" to describe views one disagrees with.

Nevertheless, that and other such words have been used relentlessly on DU to describe those of us who want to move the party to the left. In that context, I'm giving this post a rec precisely because it does make the analogy.

Kathy M (1,044 posts)
20. Then you must be okay with neoliberalism ideology

"But in the 1970s, when Keynesian policies began to fall apart and economic crises struck on both sides of the Atlantic, neoliberal ideas began to enter the mainstream. As Friedman remarked, “when the time came that you had to change ... there was an alternative ready there to be picked up”. With the help of sympathetic journalists and political advisers, elements of neoliberalism, especially its prescriptions for monetary policy, were adopted by Jimmy Carter’s administration in the US and Jim Callaghan’s government in Britain"

"After Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan took power, the rest of the package soon followed: massive tax cuts for the rich, the crushing of trade unions, deregulation, privatisation, outsourcing and competition in public services. Through the IMF, the World Bank, the Maastricht treaty and the World Trade Organisation, neoliberal policies were imposed – often without democratic consent – on much of the world. Most remarkable was its adoption among parties that once belonged to the left: Labour and the Democrats, for example. As Stedman Jones notes, “it is hard to think of another utopia to have been as fully realised.”

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/apr/15/neoliberalism-ideology-problem-george-monbiot

"This has held true in recent decades. After taking office in 1992, Bill Clinton worked to align the Democratic Party with corporate elites and to appeal to white voters at the expense of poor black people. The result was NAFTA, the expansion of mass incarceration, and the destruction of welfare as we knew it. I have nothing nice to say about this policy disaster, or about Hillary Clinton’s participation in it. But what’s also true is that in the late 1990s, the left, after years of defeat and disarray amid post-communist neoliberal triumph, began to put itself back together in the movement against corporate globalization."

"On the electoral front, the Obama years fostered not a milquetoast challenger like Dean but democratic socialist Bernie Sanders’ historic campaign. The anti-war movement is still nowhere in sight. But on so many other issues, Americans on the left are mobilized like never before and winning new people over to the cause."

"One can no more wish third party candidates out of existence than they can close their eyes and make the two-party system go away. Both are longstanding features of American electoral politics"

http://www.salon.com/2016/10/04/the-lefts-best-bet-hillary-clinton-not-trump-in-the-white-house-will-prove-the-necessity-for-a-progressive-agenda/

Did this retard say Reagan and Thatcher were neoliberals?

NYResister (32 posts)
22. What is this crap that you are peddling.

I went to your link and read this

Condescending essays endeavoring to shame or guilt-trip people on the left into voting for Democrats often proliferate in the months leading up to a presidential election. This year, they have less credibility than ever when written by people who opposed a historic campaign waged by a democratic socialist challenger during the Democratic primary when there was absolutely no “spoiler” argument to make.

It’s not very important whether the relatively small number of people on the organized radical left vote for Clinton. (And since I don’t live in a swing state, unless Clinton starts to blow it even more than she already has, I won’t be voting for her either.)

Support Democrats.

Kathy M (1,044 posts)
23. deleted response ..... its not worth replying ..........

Good luck " democrats " in 2018 and 2020 ...........

 

NYResister (32 posts)
25. The author of your second article was advocating

for people to not vote for our Democratic nominee.

I grew up poor, and was raised by a young widowed mother. I am not a corporate democrat, neoliberal or any of these other inane, bizarre things people attribute to me because I support Democrats, and more importantly, supported our Democratic nominee over the completely unacceptable, disgusting, vile, corrupt, insane, other choice.

Our nominee, was my Senator and she spoke for me. And she spoke for many others. 66 million of us.

66 million of us are not corporate democrats, neoliberals or whatever the hell you want to label us. We are people. We are people who voted.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfAvQp-Uk5I[/youtube]

NYResister (32 posts)
18. Who are the rich people with ulterior motives who are trying to hijack the Democratic platform?

Is it people like former Republican Cenk Uygur?

Foamfollower (691 posts)
27. I can think of only one rich person from the Northeast trying to hijack the Democratic Party

That person isn't even a Democrat, too!

NYResister (32 posts)
37. Yeah, because everyone woman in NY State lives in Manhattan and is wealthy.

  Lemme guess, you are one of the wannabe mensa candidates who believe there is no difference between Trump and Clinton. Amirite?

 

[SVPete]

Star Member YoungDemCA (5,442 posts) https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029283096

I'm damn tired of rich people with ulterior motives trying to hijack the Democratic platform.

   Dude, you're about 25 years late! The D Party started becoming the Party of the Monied some 25 years ago! Bill & Chill roped in Hollyweird $$ and started bringing on board tech company execs in the 1990s (e.g. Jim Treybig of Tandem Computers and Ed McCracken of Silicon Graphics, both of whose companies were high-flyers that tanked later in the 90s for failure to recognize and lead where their marketplace and customers were going). The CHILL and Bill brought on Wall Street during the mid-late 2000s and Obama kept them in and transferred them back to The CHILL for her 2016 failure.

(The headquarters buildings for Tandem are now occupied by the Deciduous Fruit Computer company, as is much/most of Cupertino. At least one of SGI's former main buildings now houses the Computer History Museum in Mountain View.)

[Adam Wood]

I'm damn tired of rich people with ulterior motives trying to hijack the Democratic platform.

Let us know when you start telling Democrats to reject the money from George Soros, Bill Gates, Tom Steyer, etc.

Kathy M (1,044 posts)
20. Then you must be okay with neoliberalism ideology

"But in the 1970s, when Keynesian policies began to fall apart and economic crises struck on both sides of the Atlantic, neoliberal ideas began to enter the mainstream. As Friedman remarked, “when the time came that you had to change ... there was an alternative ready there to be picked up”. With the help of sympathetic journalists and political advisers, elements of neoliberalism, especially its prescriptions for monetary policy, were adopted by Jimmy Carter’s administration in the US and Jim Callaghan’s government in Britain"

"After Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan took power, the rest of the package soon followed: massive tax cuts for the rich, the crushing of trade unions, deregulation, privatisation, outsourcing and competition in public services. Through the IMF, the World Bank, the Maastricht treaty and the World Trade Organisation, neoliberal policies were imposed – often without democratic consent – on much of the world. Most remarkable was its adoption among parties that once belonged to the left: Labour and the Democrats, for example. As Stedman Jones notes, “it is hard to think of another utopia to have been as fully realised.”

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/apr/15/neoliberalism-ideology-problem-george-monbiot

Yes, I can see how Reagan governed "without democratic consent:"




And look!  This bit of spew actually came from the original moonbat.  Figures.