Chris Matthews: collusion "fell apart"

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Joe941 (380 posts) https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029178418
Chris Matthews: collusion "fell apart"

I'm done with MSNBC! The dribble that comes out of that rag is worthless I'm done with them all (except for maybe Rachel).

 

theaocp (2,062 posts)
2. Stop watching/listening to Tweety

I can't believe anyone would willingly think he has anything useful to say that doesn't benefit Tweety. **** that guy.

Star Member kentuck (80,735 posts)
3. Well, Chris...

Why was General Flynn fired and why did Jeff Sessions recuse himself? And why did Jared meet with that Russian banker?

A little premature to say there was no collusion, in my opinion.

Star Member WinkyDink (47,839 posts)
6. Matthews' mind has fallen apart. The other night it took him a dozen tries to think of "colleague" or some such easy word.

In this case, he is cravenly trying to stand out in the journo crowd. He knows what the consensus is.

Star Member still_one (52,587 posts)
7. I so glad that dribble no longer comes in my house. Nothing fell apart today, and in fact some
things were made clear:

1. Trump is a liar
2. No special counsel was necessary for Clinton because she did nothing criminal
3. A special counsel was needed for Russian interference, and their is no fuzziness about it, Russia interfered in the 2016 election
4. Trump told Comey in private to let the Flynn election go
5. Trump fired Comey because of the Russian investigation

More to follow

 

Thrill (17,921 posts)
11. Absolutely nothing said today tells you There was no collusion between the Trump campaign and Russian hackers. Nothing

Star Member BigDemVoter (2,361 posts)
12. Tweety is a piece of SHIT.

He's a ****ing religious NUT case, and he is too ****ing scared to EVER confront ANY religious conservative like Michelle Bachmann when it comes to her public statements versus her actions.

He's is ****ING worthless, and he NEVER shuts the **** up. . . .

Star Member Hoyt (29,714 posts)
14. Trump is in a mess, but Matthews is correct that there was no evidence Trump colluded with

Ruskies to get himself elected presented today or previously. None today, and none before. Hence, Trump was not under investigation.

We may not like the truth, but that's it at this point.

Now, Trump may have obstructed justice, which is our best chance to get him. But, there is a way to go on that.

ElementaryPenguin (6,686 posts)
15. WTF? How can YOU possibly claim to know that??

Because Comey didn't announce anything classified?

What do you suppose all those contacts were between Trump people and Russians during the campaign? Just coincidental timing? And EVERYONE'S in contact with Russians but Trump?? Everyone's running the show but Trump? That's now how he operates. He's been in bed with Russian oligarchs and mob figures for years - and there's NOTHING he wouldn't do for money and power!!

If you haven't figured out that much by now, you haven't paid too much attention!

Star Member Hoyt (29,714 posts)
21. Do you have some dates and names of contacts between Trump aides and Ruskies before election? Better yet, evidence they were colluding to elect Trump.

I would love to have to eat crow dung on this, but no one has produced evidence of collusion in election. I do not doubt Russia, Germany, Canada, big corporations, little corporations, the Vatican, Israel, gun manufacturers, and lots of others contacted Trump's people. I'm sure they contacted Clinton's too. But none of that will take Trump down, especially with GOPers in control unless you show evidence of collusion.

Star Member jmg257 (9,127 posts)
24. In fact, the big NYT story saying campaign associates had contacts with RUssians? - not true.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/us/politics/russia-intelligence-communications-trump.html?_r=0


Trump Campaign Aides Had Repeated Contacts With Russian Intelligence

Declared to be "in the main" false, "almost entirely no true" in testimony.

Samantha (9,227 posts)
35. So was that picture of Flynn sitting next to Putin at that circular table in Russia

a mirage?

Sam

 

Star Member alcibiades_mystery (36,200 posts)
18. He was obstructing an FBI investigation into why his major campaign surrogate spoke secretly with the Russian ambassador to discuss sanctions (while not officially in government, mind you), and lied about it not only in his clearance documents, but directly to two FBI agents.

Star Member still_one (52,587 posts)
27. Hoyt, that has yet to be determined. You are qualifying it with "at this point".

So you understand that investigations are still going on, and all the data is not in, including the fact that Comey would not discuss some things publicly.

What came out of today's session was the following:

1. Trump is a liar
2. No special counsel was necessary for Clinton because she did nothing criminal
3. A special counsel was needed for Russian interference, and their is no fuzziness about it, Russia interfered in the 2016 election
4. Trump told Comey in private to let the Flynn election go
5. Trump fired Comey because of the Russian investigation

The purpose of today's session had nothing to do with whether their was collusion with Russia or not. Comey outlined clearly in a letter the night before what he was willing to discuss

As I said, and you essentially said, "it has yet to be determined"

That look familiar? It's because it's the DNC talking points to today's hearing... normally you don't see them posted back to back in differnt DU threads...


... oh, wait... yes you do.   

Grammy23 (1,686 posts)
34. Often when I hear long testimony like was heard today...

I have an immediate impression. But then I like to think about what was said, re-read the testimony and as I did tonight, listen to others who also heard the testimony. Sometimes it helps to hear an expert in law to explain what constitutes collusion or obstruction of justice. There may be many explanations of what was said and what it means.

I heard many voices joining the chorus tonight of what exactly transpired today. After hearing their explanations, I feel fairly certain that tRump is under investigation. The fact that Comey was not able to discuss some of the details in open session means there is more to tell. Members of the committee heard more this afternoon and eventually so will we.

If trump's campaign is being investigated, that means tRump falls under that investigation, too. He is still the top of that chain, so how could he not be a subject? As I heard tonight, they will go after the smaller fish and work their way up. As they move through the ranks, theoretically, the lower level people could rat out the higher level people, maybe hoping for leniency.

Anyone who claims that tRump got exonerated by Comey did not hear the same testimony that I did. What he did not or could not say in open session was just as intriguing as what he did say. This is going to get really interesting when the open hearings get going after some of the information is no longer classified. Pop the corn, pull up a chair!

 

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Star Member BigDemVoter (2,361 posts)
12. Tweety is a piece of SHIT.

He's a ****ing religious NUT case, and he is too ****ing scared to EVER confront ANY religious conservative like Michelle Bachmann when it comes to her public statements versus her actions.

Matthews was raised a Catholic and graduated from Holy Cross university, but is he particularly religious? Or is BDV just riding his/her special anti-religious bigotry hobby horse? Suggesting that Matthews and Bachmann have much in common religiously is silly, AFAIK.

Star Member Hoyt (29,714 posts)
14. Trump is in a mess, but Matthews is correct that there was no evidence Trump colluded with

Ruskies to get himself elected presented today or previously. None today, and none before. Hence, Trump was not under investigation.

We may not like the truth, but that's it at this point.
...

Heretic! Heretic!!! To the st ... errrrrrr ... Alert him! Alert him!

More seriously, there seems to be 2 or 3 DU long-termers who, while convinced of Lib/Prog ideology, aren't koolaid-drinkers and try to toss in a bit of reality on occasion. 9th Ward and brooklyn (don't recall their full DU names) come to mind. Is Hoyt another reality-bomb tosser?

[FiddyBeowulf]

Matthews was raised a Catholic and graduated from Holy Cross university, but is he particularly religious? Or is BDV just riding his/her special anti-religious bigotry hobby horse? Suggesting that Matthews and Bachmann have much in common religiously is silly, AFAIK.

Heretic! Heretic!!! To the st ... errrrrrr ... Alert him! Alert him!

More seriously, there seems to be 2 or 3 DU long-termers who, while convinced of Lib/Prog ideology, aren't koolaid-drinkers and try to toss in a bit of reality on occasion. 9th Ward and brooklyn (don't recall their full DU names) come to mind. Is Hoyt another reality-bomb tosser?

They probably realize that the more the other DUmmies keep this going the more they will look like 'tards.

[Ralph Wiggum]

Hoyt was the hero of that thread, speaking truth to idiots.

[jukin]

That thread is a complete proof of crazy people sure are fickle.

[BadCat]

Hoyt was the hero of that thread, speaking truth to idiots.

Yeah, you've hit rock bottom when Hoyt is the voice of sanity.

[SVPete]

That thread is a complete proof of crazy people sure are fickle.

Someone should write a new verse for the song, "For What It's Worth", about how deep the proverbial Egyptian River rus.

[jukin]

This thread and so many like it demonstrates why the DUchebags are such losers. They must, simply MUST have their thinking be right. If they think 1+1=POTATO (and they do) they love people that agree with this and hate those that do not. Even if a person has agreed 1+1=POTATO for decades, if they dare step into the sane world and say 1+1=2 they are literally Hitler.

The above is no way to grow or be successful. hence the DUchebags are attaining neither. Quite simply these people should be separated from others for their and our safety.

[franksolich]

Yeah, you've hit rock bottom when Hoyt is the voice of sanity.

Man oh man, ain't that the truth.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Joe941 (380 posts) https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029178418
Chris Matthews: collusion "fell apart"

I'm done with MSNBC! The dribble that comes out of that rag is worthless I'm done with them all (except for maybe Rachel).

The word you're looking for is 'Drivel,' you pathetic damn' retard.  'Drool' or 'Spittle' probably would have worked, in a labored way, but you instead chose to demonstrate your marginal literacy.  And yet your vote counts as much as an educated person's, and since you're a Democrat, it will keep counting long after your belated departure from this plane of existence.

 

[SVPete]

Joe941 (380 posts) https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029178418
Chris Matthews: collusion "fell apart"

I'm done with MSNBC! The dribble that comes out of that rag is worthless I'm done with them all (except for maybe Rachel).

The word you're looking for is 'Drivel,' you pathetic damn' retard.  'Drool' or 'Spittle' probably would have worked, in a labored way, but you instead chose to demonstrate your marginal literacy.  And yet your vote counts as much as an educated person's, and since you're a Democrat, it will keep counting long after your belated departure from this plane of existence.

 

Malaprops seem to be a core element of DU-dialect.

[Old n Grumpy]

Star Member Hoyt (29,714 posts)
21. Do you have some dates and names of contacts between Trump aides and Ruskies before election? Better yet, evidence they were colluding to elect Trump.

EVIDENCE? who needs evidence, it is all over the internet and in dozens of threads here that he is GUILTY!! Are you ****ing STUPID?