I have a bloody nose!!!! Call an ambulance (chaser)!!!

[Mary Ann]

https://www.democraticunderground.com/125612751

Fantastic Anarchist (7,208 posts)

I was pistol whipped last night and broke my nose.

At a pub last night. Another person who I did not know say at a table across from me out back ( in the smoking area). I assume we know a mutual person who apparently was lying about me. All the drama aside, we had an heated exchange of words. He pulled up his shirt, exposing his pistol. I yelled at him, asking if he was going to shoot me. I don't know how, but the next moment, I felt something extremely hard and heavy, lights out. My head and nose felt like one of those spring door stops. From what little I could see, there was blood everywhere.

Blood was still pouring from my nose when I went inside, everyone gasping and pointing, to ask the bartender to call 911. I went and sat down outside on the curb, and no one came out to help me. 20 minutes later, I went inside and asked if an ambulance was coming.

They hadn't called anyone!!

I started screaming at them to ****ing call 911, that a crime had been committed, and that I was in need of medical help. My nose was still dripping blood all over the place. I finally shamed them into calling the police which took a few minutes more!

So, they waited around 25 to 30 minutes before calling 911.

Can I sue the bar?

Edit: a cook was a witness.

The police came last night and I told them they had cameras. They didn't file a report! They were treating me like a suspect. I had to ask one cop to stop questioning me, and that I wanted to talk to the other one.

I talked to a very nice police officer this morning who confirmed that a report has not been filed, but that he was filling one and a detective will be calling me soon.

So many questions . . .

Why didn't FA tell us that this was a political argument, and that the attacker was a Trump supporter? And an NRA member? Or that he was attacked because of his Hillary bumper sticker? Or his rainbow flag t-shirt? Why weren't cops lurking in the bushes?

[67 Rover]

Fantastic Anarchist (7,208 posts)

So you can't think of one single reason why anyone may want to beat the $hit out of you?   

[franksolich]

I dunno about anybody else, but if this is true--if, if, if, remember how primitives lie--it sounds like a gay bar incident, gays bashing each other, in which case why should we care?

[BlueStateSaint]

I dunno about anybody else, but if this is true--if, if, if, remember how primitives lie--it sounds like a gay bar incident, gays bashing each other, in which case why should we care?

Or, more likely, there was no one with a handgun, and said primitive simply got drunk and fell down onto the sidewalk, similar to the Pittstain?

[Mary Ann]

I dunno about anybody else, but if this is true--if, if, if, remember how primitives lie--it sounds like a gay bar incident, gays bashing each other, in which case why should we care?

The subject of the dispute wasn't mentioned, so . . .

[SVPete]

So you can't think of one single reason why anyone may want to beat the $hit out of you?   

Yeah, clearly, "All the drama aside ...," conceals much pertinent information. For example, there's this absurdity, "I yelled at him, asking if he was going to shoot me. I don't know how, but the next moment ... ." How in Hades do you not know how you've been hit when you're obviously glaring at the guy's face and person?

Blood was still pouring from my nose when I went inside, everyone gasping and pointing, to ask the bartender to call 911. ... 20 minutes later, I went inside and asked if an ambulance was coming.

They hadn't called anyone!!

I started screaming at them to ****ing call 911, that a crime had been committed, and that I was in need of medical help. ... I finally shamed them into calling the police which took a few minutes more!

So, they waited around 25 to 30 minutes before calling 911.
...
The police came last night and I told them they had cameras. They didn't file a report! They were treating me like a suspect. I had to ask one cop to stop questioning me, and that I wanted to talk to the other one.

I talked to a very nice police officer this morning who confirmed that a report has not been filed, but that he was filling one and a detective will be calling me soon.

Reading somewhat deeply between the lines:

* Sounds like the bar people expected the guy to drive himself to the ER;

* Sounds like the bar people regarded the DU-member as equally or more at fault for what happened and may have thought they did him a favor by not calling the police;

* Sounds like the police were acting as they would if they believed this DU-member was as much or more at fault for what happened.

This DU-member referred to the bar at first as a "pub". Did this happen in England? Is FA from England?

I wonder if his follow-up about the police report - if there ever is one - will be further expression of outrage.

[Adam Wood]

Fantastic Anarchist (7,208 posts)

I started a bar fight last night and got my ass kicked.

At a pub last night. Another person who I did not know say at a table across from me out back ( in the smoking area). I assume we know a mutual person who apparently was lying about me, because I think that I am famous because of the DUmp. All the drama aside, we had an heated exchange of words because I said that Trump is teh debbil and Kathy Griffin is the most brilliantest woman in the whole wide world. Except Hillary, of course. I tried to slap him. I don't know how, but the next moment, I felt something extremely hard and heavy, lights out. My head and nose felt like one of those spring door stops. From what little I could see, there was blood everywhere.

Blood was still pouring from my nose when I went inside, everyone laughing and pointing, to ask the bartender to call 911. I went and sat down outside on the curb, and no one came out to help me. 20 minutes later, I went inside and asked if an ambulance was coming.

They hadn't called anyone!! They just laughed at me and said "go hump a barbed-wire fence, moonbat."

I started screaming at them to ****ing call 911, that a crime had been committed, and that I was in need of medical help. They laughed even louder.  My nose was still dripping blood all over the place. I finally shamed them into calling the police which took a few minutes more!

So, they waited around 25 to 30 minutes before calling 911.

Can I sue the bar? I mean, they really triggered me there, and I needed a safe space and some crayons.

Edit: a cook was a witness.

The police came last night and I told them they had cameras. They didn't file a report! They were treating me like a suspect just because the sixty other people in the bar said that I had clearly started it. I had to ask one cop to stop questioning me, and that I wanted to talk to the other one. They both laughed at me.

I talked to a very nice police officer this morning who confirmed that a report has not been filed, but that he was filling one and a detective will be calling me soon to look into pressing charges against me for initiating a fight.

Fixed.

[dutch508]

Fantastic Anarchist (7,208 posts)
5. My cell phone was dead.

Just so much here...

first, Police have to ask you questions because they don't know what happened. We treat everyone as a suspect because we don't know that you are not-

From the limited description of the event, it sounds like you went outside into the alley with someone for the expressed purposes of an argument- that right there is mutual assault. You say the guy showed you a gun in his... waist band? That's not illegal, dipshit. If you are yelling and screaming at him (as I assume you are) all he has to say to the police is "I was afraid for my life" and he's fine. He didn't draw his weapon of point it at you. To me, without seeing your nose, sounds like he punched you, because if you'd been hit with a pistol on the nose/face you wouldn't be standing up anymore.

Anyway- so you are bleeding and go back inside. The bar doesn't have to call anyone. a fight happened outside the establishment- not their problem. Hell, they probably don't want you back inside bleeding on the floor.

So- we got mutual assault, no real witnesses, you say you didn't know the guys name, you didn't call to file a police report but waited for someone else to do it...

yeah, other than an incident report (done because we responded to a call) what the **** do you think was going to happen? An ambulance ride because of a broken nose? GTFOOH...

[98ZJUSMC]

Fantastic Anarchist (7,208 posts)

So you can't think of one single reason why anyone may want to beat the $hit out of you?   

I yelled at him, asking if he was going to shoot me.

I started screaming at them to ****ing call 911

I finally shamed them

Yep.  Quite the mystery.   

[tuolumnejim]

This DU-member referred to the bar at first as a "pub". Did this happen in England? Is FA from England?

The United States is the only place that 911 is used for emergency calls so it has to be here.

[franksolich]

The United States is the only place that 911 is used for emergency calls so it has to be here.

Yeah, use of "pub" tipped me off that it's a gay tale.

It sounds affectated, and the gaiety crowd's known for its affectation.

[FunkyZero]

https://www.democraticunderground.com/125612751

So many questions . . .

Why didn't FA tell us that this was a political argument, and that the attacker was a Trump supporter? And an NRA member? Or that he was attacked because of his Hillary bumper sticker? Or his rainbow flag t-shirt? Why weren't cops lurking in the bushes?

I think I can sum this up with a probability of 90% accuracy:
Knowing this is a DUmbass:
Drunk and obnoxious. Potentially a cat fight between homos. The DUnce was mouthing off (high probability it was about politics). He encountered ANOTHER DUmpass or someone who had at least 6 in him already and wasn't in the mood for "tolerance".
No one was interested in helping the snowflake because he was the instigator and was causing all kinds of trouble. plus, 30 minutes=about 3 actual minutes. the bartender was probably convincing the rest of the patrons to NOT go out and finish him off with a well-deserved curb stomping.
There was likely no gun. He ate a 5-knuckle sammich served by someone capable of shutting him up and willing to take the misdemeanor to do it.
This story is 69% DUmpass bouncy and 30% gofundme setup material. The other 1% is true. The DUmptard actually WAS at a bar.

[Mary Ann]

I think I can sum this up with a probability of 90% accuracy:
Knowing this is a DUmbass:
Drunk and obnoxious. Potentially a cat fight between homos. The DUnce was mouthing off (high probability it was about politics). He encountered ANOTHER DUmpass or someone who had at least 6 in him already and wasn't in the mood for "tolerance".
No one was interested in helping the snowflake because he was the instigator and was causing all kinds of trouble. plus, 30 minutes=about 3 actual minutes. the bartender was probably convincing the rest of the patrons to NOT go out and finish him off with a well-deserved curb stomping.
There was likely no gun. He ate a 5-knuckle sammich served by someone capable of shutting him up and willing to take the misdemeanor to do it.
This story is 69% DUmpass bouncy and 30% gofundme setup material. The other 1% is true. The DUmptard actually WAS at a bar.

My guess is that he's a regular at that bar, that all the other regulars hate him, and were glad he finally got his. What's missing from your analysis is the bartender shouting, "And don't come back!" as the idiot stumbles out the door.

Yup. I expect a begging post shortly.

[DumbAss Tanker]

I dunno about anybody else, but if this is true--if, if, if, remember how primitives lie--it sounds like a gay bar incident, gays bashing each other, in which case why should we care?

That's what I got from it, too.

[FunkyZero]

Yeah, clearly, "All the drama aside ...," conceals much pertinent information. For example, there's this absurdity, "I yelled at him, asking if he was going to shoot me. I don't know how, but the next moment ... ." How in Hades do you not know how you've been hit when you're obviously glaring at the guy's face and person?

The fact that this is a lying, gold-digging DUmpass aside... I've been knocked out more than a few times... stories for another day from my scrappin years...
If you get wacked REAL good (as in, out cold), you can't really remember the 10 seconds or so preceding the impact. don't ask me why, it's just been my personal experience.
That being said, there was no gun. DUmptard was running his mouth and someone shut it for him with a 5 knuckle delivery. He knows full well what led to getting his ass stomped, even though (if he was even REALLY knocked out) he may not remember the actual impact.
I always refer to "Rules for understanding DUmmies, authored by the master" 1.1, paragraph 1, line 1: EHEM:      "Primitives lie. They lie all the time"

[docstew]

Fantastic Anarchist (7,208 posts)

So, you got beat up, then demanded aid from TWO GOVERNMENT agencies. You are not fantastic at anarchy. Sounds like you're a Shitty Anarchist to me.

[FlaGator]

I have avoided being pistol whipped my whole life by not lipping off to the wrong people in the wrong situations. Bar fights with unknown hostiles is a good example of this. I don't know them and what they are capable of and most importantly I don't know how many friends they might have standing around to "level the playing field" should I get the upper hand.

[DumbAss Tanker]

I have avoided being pistol whipped my whole live by not lipping off to the wrong people in the wrong situations. Bar fights with unknown hostiles is a good example of this. I don't know them and what they are capable of and most importantly I don't know how many friends they might have standing around to "level the playing field" should I get the upper hand.

I can't speak for anyone else, but it's an approach that has worked pretty well for me, too.

 

[FunkyZero]

I have avoided being pistol whipped my whole live by not lipping off to the wrong people in the wrong situations. Bar fights with unknown hostiles is a good example of this. I don't know them and what they are capable of and most importantly I don't know how many friends they might have standing around to "level the playing field" should I get the upper hand.

You and I commonly refer to this as "wisdom".
I wasn't so wise when I was younger. Now? I don't even go into bars.
I'm much more content in by back yard with good friends and the complete absence of smoking bans

[DumbAss Tanker]

Yeah, use of "pub" tipped me off that it's a gay tale.

It sounds affectated, and the gaiety crowd's known for its affectation.

To me, that could have been just an 'English twit affectation,' like saying 'In hospital' or 'At university,' this was the part that set off my gaydar:

I assume we know a mutual person who apparently was lying about me. All the drama aside,

This creature should change its handle from 'Fantastic' (Not flamboyant enough to really scream out 'Gay') to 'Fabulous,' and the 'Anarchist' part is a total joke.

[FunkyZero]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56B5A8CGN98

[SVPete]

To me, without seeing your nose, sounds like he punched you, because if you'd been hit with a pistol on the nose/face you wouldn't be standing up anymore.

Fighting was never my strong suit, but when I consider these two possibilities:

* FA gets in the other guy's face and yells at him. The guy plucks his gun from his waistband and somehow whacks FA on the nose;

* FA gets in the other guy's face and yells at him. The guy punches FA in the nose.

The latter just seems much more  realistic and credible. Grabbing the gun from the waistband and figuring out how to grip it are slow. And then hitting FA in the face rather than the top of his head? I have zero experience in such things, but that sounds very awkward (not to mention a risk of accidental discharge). So I think:

1.) FA was punched (for being a threatening or shoving jerk);

2.) The claim to have been "pistol-whipped" is fictional, a play on many DU-folks' gun-hatred.

3.) There is a very good chance that there was no gun at any point in the encounter.

[I_B_Perky]

My guess is that he's a regular at that bar, that all the other regulars hate him, and were glad he finally got his. What's missing from your analysis is the bartender shouting, "And don't come back!" as the idiot stumbles out the door.

Yup. I expect a begging post shortly.

That is my suspicion as well.   

[Old n Grumpy]

From fearless bad ass 
 to candy ass in 2.5 seconds.

[USA4ME]

A smart-mouth lib got clocked. And?????? What's the crime?

Best I can tell he answered your inquiry: No, he isn't going to shoot you. But next time, primitive, you might want to ask more informed questions.

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