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Re: Yesterday I met a soldier. Bouncy
« Reply #25 on: April 28, 2017, 08:38:24 AM »
He told me the tattoo on his forearm was in Sanskrit. There's no lie there.

Didn't say there was.  It could've really been Sanskrit, or he might think Arabic script is Sanskrit.  Soldiers don't always know what they're talking about, just like anybody else.   Sanskrit looks like this, Arabic is so common there isn't any need for an example.

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Re: Yesterday I met a soldier. Bouncy
« Reply #26 on: April 28, 2017, 08:55:26 AM »
Yeah, I think this :bouncy: -tale is less than dubious. Here's two other doubtful points:

A Caver with military experience can set me straight, but if this guy was "right next to" his buddy when the mine went off, I think he wouldn't be in Atlanta telling this tale.

Second, Sanskrit is an Indian language, nearly dead as a primary language, and mostly used in the Hindu religion. I don't think it would be in use in Afghanistan, especially not as a religio-philosophical symbol.

Neither are hard proof this :bouncy: -tale is fauxny, but they are significant incongruities. Just as the lack of cancellations at Hartsfield-Jackson is an incongruity.

The whole "right next to his buddy" thing is Hollywood level cliche. Even if his "buddy" had a deathwish and belly flopped onto the damn thing he wouldn't have come out of that without a scratch. As for the "short leave" that's just a load of bullshit. If he was on deployment it would have been his midtour leave which is typically two weeks long if he is going to take the trouble of flying back to the states. So the two most likely scenarios are:

1. The OP is lying

2. The OP met one of those Stolen Valor jackasses

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« Reply #27 on: April 28, 2017, 09:17:51 AM »
I know it's a thing here to insist that every DUer is lying their ass off all the time.  As far as the regulars go, there are some for which that's true.  Aside from them, and some GoFundMe leeches and attention whores, though, most of them are saying things as they understand them, based on the facts (Or, more often, fake facts and BS propaganda) as they picked them up.  I don't personally believe most of them are anywhere near as bad as their megaposters.

ETA - of course, at least 10% of the high posters are moles, and probably a quarter of the membership has been banned over time for either having a few too many lucid moments, stepping on boobytrap like pissing off the fembots and the gay mafia, or checking the wrong block in a poll.
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« Reply #28 on: April 28, 2017, 01:04:02 PM »
It was American Airlines. They told him it was his fault he missed his connecting flight. I asked him wasn't there another flight he could get on. He was on 36 hour leave and there wasn't enough time, plus weirdly the USO told him they didn't help with travel.
I am rather curious as to where in Virginia he was trying to go.

I'm also curious about sleeping in foxholes in Iraq or Afghanistan.

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« Reply #29 on: April 28, 2017, 04:05:38 PM »
I am rather curious as to where in Virginia he was trying to go.

I'm also curious about sleeping in foxholes in Iraq or Afghanistan.

I wonder if she ran into this guy.  :whatever:
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« Reply #30 on: April 28, 2017, 06:41:15 PM »
I am the person who wrote this on DU. I registered on conservative cave to tell you, respectfully, that this soldier also had no words of praise for Obama's support for Vets either. But he was tough as nails, and a complete gentleman. I'm a 50 year old woman and he could have been my son. I looked at him with those eyes Since his Dad was in the hospital, near the end, they gave him a 36 hour leave. There is a bench smoking area on the north side outside Hartsfield Jackson where we smoked. He missed his connecting flight which wasn't cancelled. It wasn't a political conversation that he and I had. In fact, I wrote it because I think most people without family in the military don't realize the sacrifices men like him make and how little they are paid or taken care of by our government. Yes, I'm one of those people that you probably dislike, and while I have no wish to receive a "crotch punch,"  I would like to engage in real, civil conversation with fellow citizens of this country to see where we might agree. for example, agree with Trumps stance on parts of Title IX. It's a shame that we have come to point in this country where we automatically hate and distrust each other. I don't know any of you, or what you've had to deal with in your lives, but I'm not going to stop talking to strangers in order to better understand.

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Having said all that... sorry. I just do not believe all of your story.  You may have met a soldier at Hartfield and you may have had a conversation. The rest?  Probably not.

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Re: Yesterday I met a soldier. Bouncy
« Reply #31 on: April 28, 2017, 07:28:07 PM »
Welcome to CC.  You might find we are not the illiterate, deplorable ogres that your kind paints us as.  Most of us here are pretty nice folks. Some are a little rougher around the edges than others but all would stop and change your tire in the pouring rain if you had a flat. ...

Having said all that... sorry. I just do not believe all of your story.  You may have met a soldier at Hartfield and you may have had a conversation. The rest?  Probably not.

Have a nice day.  :cheersmate:

Alternatively, C'tita may have related more or less accurately what was said and done, but the one spoken with was a pretender. The "Stolen Valor" phenomenon is sadly real, and some folks here have both seen it and have the first-hand experience to shred a pretender. Others know enough of military matters and weaponry to spot possible "errors" in a story.
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Re: Yesterday I met a soldier. Bouncy
« Reply #32 on: April 28, 2017, 08:33:06 PM »
Alternatively, C'tita may have related more or less accurately what was said and done, but the one spoken with was a pretender. The "Stolen Valor" phenomenon is sadly real, and some folks here have both seen it and have the first-hand experience to shred a pretender. Others know enough of military matters and weaponry to spot possible "errors" in a story.

Could be... never thought about that.  :cheersmate:

I do not pretend to know things on military matters. I leave that up to the ones here that are career military. I would imagine though that if one's parent is dying that one would get more than 36 hours leave. Unless the russians have invaded the east coast I would think that the US Army could spare one soldier for more than 36 hours.  That is just me. Could be wrong, wouldn't be the first time. 

According to ex I was always wrong so I am used to that.   :-)
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Re: Yesterday I met a soldier. Bouncy
« Reply #33 on: April 29, 2017, 06:24:12 AM »
Welcome to CC.  You might find we are not the illiterate, deplorable ogres that your kind paints us as.  Most of us here are pretty nice folks. Some are a little rougher around the edges than others but all would stop and change your tire in the pouring rain if you had a flat. Your kind would not.  Your kind consider us "the enemy". Their words, not mine.

Having said all that... sorry. I just do not believe all of your story.  You may have met a soldier at Hartfield and you may have had a conversation. The rest?  Probably not.

Have a nice day.  :cheersmate:

Thanks for the welcome. :cheersmate:

I know you aren't illiterate, deplorable ogres (although it was fun to type that). I have plenty of people in my own family who are beloved, brilliant conservatives. I've been helped by strangers plenty of times of all stripes and tried to do the same for others. Yes, there are people on DU who use the word "enemy" and its a shame. I guess we could experiment an go on this site and that one and count/compare the insults on any given day towards the "other side" and it wouldn't be pretty. Honestly, when I look at this site and that one, I see a lot of similar behavior, which is why I don't post there much.

I talked to him because I think our country would be in better shape if we talked with each other, even if it is hard. No one enjoys being called a liar or a dupe, which is what many here think of me -- nor do many enjoy having something they wrote copied and taken to another place where people they don't know make fun of it. But at the same time, I appreciate your honesty, which is hard to come by these days.

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Re: Yesterday I met a soldier. Bouncy
« Reply #34 on: April 29, 2017, 06:26:44 AM »
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Re: Yesterday I met a soldier. Bouncy
« Reply #35 on: April 29, 2017, 06:53:48 AM »
Thanks for the welcome. :cheersmate:

I know you aren't illiterate, deplorable ogres (although it was fun to type that). I have plenty of people in my own family who are beloved, brilliant conservatives. I've been helped by strangers plenty of times of all stripes and tried to do the same for others. Yes, there are people on DU who use the word "enemy" and its a shame. I guess we could experiment an go on this site and that one and count/compare the insults on any given day towards the "other side" and it wouldn't be pretty. Honestly, when I look at this site and that one, I see a lot of similar behavior, which is why I don't post there much.

I talked to him because I think our country would be in better shape if we talked with each other, even if it is hard. No one enjoys being called a liar or a dupe, which is what many here think of me -- nor do many enjoy having something they wrote copied and taken to another place where people they don't know make fun of it. But at the same time, I appreciate your honesty, which is hard to come by these days.

One thing you WON'T run into here, unlike DU, is being thrown out for saying the wrong thing, supporting the wrong people, or picking the wrong option on a poll.  People don't get banned for what they think or say, short of going really over the top vile. You seem pretty civil and literate, so - to borrow a phrase from DU that means something entirely different here and in this context - enjoy your stay!

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Re: Yesterday I met a soldier. Bouncy
« Reply #36 on: April 29, 2017, 07:09:37 AM »
This DUchebag needs a crotch punch.

I award this bouncy no bongs. We are all DUmber for having read it. At no point did this bouncy ever come close to a point or reality. May satan have no mercy on this DUchebag's soul.

Hi Jukin, cute dog. I'm the one you wished satan would have no mercy on. I'm a mother of twin boys and have lots of other people at work who depend on me, plus my husband and two dogs (Oscar and Lola). I've volunteered for 10 years at the local school too, and never laid a hand on anyone. Do you still think I need a "crotch punch"? I hope not. It would interfere with my chocolate-chip cookie baking.
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Re: Yesterday I met a soldier. Bouncy
« Reply #37 on: April 29, 2017, 10:35:22 AM »
Welcome Chiquitita. As DumbAss Tanker said, you won't get the banhammer for saying the wrong thing. I read posts over there, and there are some nasty, vile individuals over at DU. Some even went as far as wishing harm on the president and his family. I did not like Obama as president, but I NEVER wished him harm nor his family. Enjoy your stay here.  :cheers2:

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« Reply #38 on: April 29, 2017, 12:43:26 PM »
Hi Jukin, cute dog. I'm the one you wished satan would have no mercy on. I'm a mother of twin boys and have lots of other people at work who depend on me, plus my husband and two dogs (Oscar and Lola). I've volunteered for 10 years at the local school too, and never laid a hand on anyone. Do you still think I need a "crotch punch"? I hope not. It would interfere with my chocolate-chip cookie baking.

Wellll....most DUmmys do need one of those. I found/find it hard to believe much of your story. Generally, I do think most DUmmys need a crotch punch. I am glad that you came over and introduced yourself. You maybe an exception to that rule.

As to the last bit, that is a slightly modified quote from a Sandler movie, which I find funny. Not having known you and thrown you into the general populace of that particular asylum I couldn't really say "and may God have mercy on your soul." That is the end quote. I have just seen too much true hate and poison from the DUches. I think may people on this site maybe better than me. I grew up in the barrio and fought for everything I have achieved. I very much do not take kindly to the wastes of life at that site. I am a believer in the golden rule with a twist. I treat people as they treat me only a bit more in either direction. I do NOT turn the other cheek, I bloody the the guy that has harmed me or mine.

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Re: Yesterday I met a soldier. Bouncy
« Reply #39 on: April 29, 2017, 03:23:46 PM »
There's a lot more to you than that, but, just curious, what were you doing at the airport? You live just north of there, coming back from Wisconsin? You sound like you were traveling alone and I don't about you, but when I reach my final destination, I can't wait to get the hell out of the airport.

Anyways, welcome, or should I say, Hola.

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« Reply #40 on: April 29, 2017, 04:03:33 PM »
Wellll....most DUmmys do need one of those. I found/find it hard to believe much of your story. Generally, I do think most DUmmys need a crotch punch. I am glad that you came over and introduced yourself. You maybe an exception to that rule.

As to the last bit, that is a slightly modified quote from a Sandler movie, which I find funny. Not having known you and thrown you into the general populace of that particular asylum I couldn't really say "and may God have mercy on your soul." That is the end quote. I have just seen too much true hate and poison from the DUches. I think may people on this site maybe better than me. I grew up in the barrio and fought for everything I have achieved. I very much do not take kindly to the wastes of life at that site. I am a believer in the golden rule with a twist. I treat people as they treat me only a bit more in either direction. I do NOT turn the other cheek, I bloody the the guy that has harmed me or mine.

For some reason talking with you feels authentic. I didn't take offense, really, although it stuck in my mind that you wrote that. It's just so out of my experience to have someone say that to me nowadays, but in reflecting back, I did punch another girl in the stomach when I was younger for bullying a friend and it worked. I taught my own kids to punch back at bullies in school, even if they got in trouble, rather than telling the teacher.  I really like Adam Sandler in Water Boy, but I don't think I saw the movie your quote comes from. I'm sure a lot of people had it easier growing up than you, including me. I started working in eighth grade cleaning a lady's house, then moved on to waitressing, and finally teaching. But I never had to deal with anything really bad. You gotta fight to protect your own. I try to widen that circle when I can, but sometimes it's too costly.
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Re: Yesterday I met a soldier. Bouncy
« Reply #41 on: April 29, 2017, 04:07:49 PM »
There's a lot more to you than that, but, just curious, what were you doing at the airport? You live just north of there, coming back from Wisconsin? You sound like you were traveling alone and I don't about you, but when I reach my final destination, I can't wait to get the hell out of the airport.

Anyways, welcome, or should I say, Hola.

At the risk of giving too much information I was heading home after visiting a loved one in Chicago. It was a stressful time, I had a long drive home ahead and I just wanted to enjoy a cigarette before the next leg of my journey. Why the third degree and how did you connect me to Wisconsin?
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« Reply #42 on: April 29, 2017, 04:42:55 PM »
For some reason talking with you feels authentic. I didn't take offense, really, although it stuck in my mind that you wrote that. It's just so out of my experience to have someone say that to me nowadays, but in reflecting back, I did punch another girl in the stomach when I was younger for bullying a friend and it worked. I taught my own kids to punch back at bullies in school, even if they got in trouble, rather than telling the teacher.  I really like Adam Sandler in Water Boy, but I don't think I saw the movie your quote comes from. I'm sure a lot of people had it easier growing up than you, including me. I started working in eighth grade cleaning a lady's house, then moved on to waitressing, and finally teaching. But I never had to deal with anything really bad. You gotta fight to protect your own. I try to widen that circle when I can, but sometimes it's too costly.

Well I have to say you are civil so I will be civil with you.

I was mowing lawns and pulling weeds at ten. I had a single mother so that money went to her and I to survive. This was the 70s so white people didn't get gubmint benees... not sure they do now. I don't resent my childhood because it made me who I am but it was hard being the one white kid and I was in a fight(s) almost everyday.

My gripe with the DUches is they don't try to get out of their situation. They blame others and want to steal from them. I went the other way of working hard, studying hard, and not just saying I'm smart but actually acting smart. I'm now in moonbat central and have friends/acquaintances that had great childhoods and lives because of their parents. I get they have guilt. I do NOT so I put up with zero shit with them. I've been told I'm fun (still get invited to parties) but we don't talk politics because I don't shut up and win the debate or shut it down when they walk away.
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« Reply #43 on: April 29, 2017, 05:18:08 PM »
Oh my.

Oh oh my.

A pulchtritudinous primitive; she's got Big Mo all beat to hell.

Grace and class and good breeding and elegance oozing out of every pore.

Really.  franksolich is almost in love.

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« Reply #44 on: April 29, 2017, 06:10:26 PM »
Oh my.

Oh oh my.

A pulchtritudinous primitive; she's got Big Mo all beat to hell.

Grace and class and good breeding and elegance oozing out of every pore.

Really.  franksolich is almost in love.

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Somebody better get the hose and spray frank down before he catches on fire over here  :tongue:

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« Reply #45 on: April 29, 2017, 06:59:24 PM »
Somebody better get the hose and spray frank down before he catches on fire over here  :tongue:

Hey, you guys can take the blondes and red-heads; they're a dime a dozen, very commonplace.

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« Reply #46 on: April 29, 2017, 08:16:31 PM »
Thanks for the welcome. :cheersmate:

I know you aren't illiterate, deplorable ogres (although it was fun to type that). I have plenty of people in my own family who are beloved, brilliant conservatives. I've been helped by strangers plenty of times of all stripes and tried to do the same for others. Yes, there are people on DU who use the word "enemy" and its a shame. I guess we could experiment an go on this site and that one and count/compare the insults on any given day towards the "other side" and it wouldn't be pretty. Honestly, when I look at this site and that one, I see a lot of similar behavior, which is why I don't post there much.

I talked to him because I think our country would be in better shape if we talked with each other, even if it is hard. No one enjoys being called a liar or a dupe, which is what many here think of me -- nor do many enjoy having something they wrote copied and taken to another place where people they don't know make fun of it. But at the same time, I appreciate your honesty, which is hard to come by these days.

You will find that the folks here are pretty tolerant. Just so you know we have had some denizens of the dump come over here from time to time to educate us illiterate, knuckle dragging, racist neanderthals. And most scurry back to the dump when they find they they are the ones that need an education. It typically goes like this:

1. Dummie comes over and is fairly nice at the start. Hospitality is given by us
2. Dummie then tries to insinuate that they are superior, lords it over us that we are intolerant, etc
3. Dummie gets ass handed to him/her/it
4. Dummie runs away.

Don't get me wrong, I am not saying you are one of those types. Just saying that history shows that most dummies are the intolerant, egotistical, selfish jerks and the ones that come over here soon find out that we will challenge them with facts.

You seem to be fairly rational and I think you would make a fine addition to our little corner of the internet. I just wanted you to be aware that you will be challenged on any preconceived notions you may have of us and you will be challenged hard.  This is not an echo chamber.   :cheersmate:
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« Reply #47 on: April 29, 2017, 08:17:55 PM »
Hey, you guys can take the blondes and red-heads; they're a dime a dozen, very commonplace.

<<<will take a classy brunette any time.

Brunettes are better than all the rest.  Not a fan of blondes myself, either. 

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« Reply #48 on: April 29, 2017, 08:41:41 PM »
Could be... never thought about that.  :cheersmate:

I do not pretend to know things on military matters. I leave that up to the ones here that are career military. I would imagine though that if one's parent is dying that one would get more than 36 hours leave. Unless the russians have invaded the east coast I would think that the US Army could spare one soldier for more than 36 hours.  That is just me. Could be wrong, wouldn't be the first time. 

According to ex I was always wrong so I am used to that.   :-)

That all depends.  Orders (travel orders and such) are orders.  Can they be modified?  Yes.  There is a procedure for that.  It must be followed or, you are missing movement which becomes UA then can also become desertion. 

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It was American Airlines. They told him it was his fault he missed his connecting flight. I asked him wasn't there another flight he could get on. He was on 36 hour leave and there wasn't enough time, plus weirdly the USO told him they didn't help with travel.

The USO has NO authority to modify travel orders or leave time.  The only civilian agency that can possibly modify orders (I think) is the Red Cross and there are numerous hoops to jump through for that.
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« Reply #49 on: April 29, 2017, 08:44:32 PM »
Hey, you guys can take the blondes and red-heads; they're a dime a dozen, very commonplace.

<<<will take a classy brunette any time.
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Liberal thinking is a two-legged stool and magical thinking is one of the legs, the other is a combination of self-loating and misanthropy.  To understand it, you would have to be able to sit on that stool while juggling two elephants, an anvil and a fragmentation grenade, sans pin.

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