If PP doesn't perform abortions, then why do leftists support it so staunchly?

[Delmar]

Sun Apr 16, 2017, 03:59 PM
Star Member DFW (23,361 posts)

Why do rational people come up with stupid suggestions?


I know a guy, not exactly traditional, libertarian, lives alone with his pets, vegetarian, successful in business, perfectly pleasnt guy to talk to. He just suggested that Planned Parenthood "spin off its abortion business" so as not to run afoul of ant-abortion-right people.

SPIN OFF its "abortion business???" PP is not in the abortion business!! Holy crap, and people actually believe this BS?


Here, for the record, was my response:

Fer Pete's sake!! PP's "abortion business?" Where in the world did THAT one come from? PP provides a whole range of women's health services, of which only a tiny peripheral sliver is abortion, and none of that is federally funded. This is like asking you to spin off (a very peripheral area of his own) business from the rest of your dealings. It's a ridiculous emphasis on something they do not emphasize. Cecile is a friend of mine. Too bad I can't introduce you. She could set you straight on what they do for real. My wife's life was just saved because a heads-up German gynecologist spotted a deadly uterine cancer before it had the chance to spread. That is mostly the kind of thing that PP does, but the ant-abortion rights crowd would rather shut PP down and let women like my wife die. I feel about them as I do about any other murderers.

I should have added that anyone who is NOT a vegetarian and is cool with the death penalty has NO business calling themselves "pro-life." He IS vegetarian, and I don't know his views on the death penalty, so I didn't bring it up

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10028938190

Primitive would have us believe that women go to back alleys for abortions and to Planned Parenthood for mammograms and condom handouts.  Why on earth would a pro-abortion leftist support Planned Parenthood if they aren't performing abortions there?

If a woman goes to Planned Parenthood and gets an abortion and is handed two dozen condoms on her way out the door, then abortions only account for 1/25th of Planned Parenthood's services--that's primitive math for you.

The fact of the matter is that 51 percent of Planned Parenthood’s yearly clinic income – their only self-sustaining revenue source – comes from abortion, 329,445 abortions.

40 percent of all reported abortions committed in the United States occur at a Planned Parenthood clinic, making it by far the largest abortion provider in America.

http://www.lifenews.com/2012/09/05/media-hides-fact-planned-parenthood-does-40-of-abortions/

A tiny peripheral sliver, my ass. 

Primitives should be honest and consistent and embrace all the abortions going on at Planned Parenthood if that's what they support.

Liars.

[Ralph Wiggum]

Peripheral sliver, sounds like the DUmmy is describing the size of his or her Johnson.

[landofconfusion80]

If they want to kill millions of black babies, it should be funded by liberal elites, just as Sanger intended

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[98ZJUSMC]

SPIN OFF its "abortion business???" PP is not in the abortion business!! Holy crap, and people actually believe this BS?

Send us the number of mammograms they do.  We'll wait......

[Adam Wood]

If abortion is just a tiny sliver of Planned Abortionhood's business, then it should make no difference to them if they shuffle it off and keep getting federal funding for all of those other supposed women's health services that they allegedly perform.

Idiot.

[Linda]

Did you know you have to have a valid ID to have an abortion?

I didn't, until I checked PP site.

https://www.plannedparenthood.org/planned-parenthood-southwest-central-florida/medical-services/abortion

Abortion is a safe and legal way to end pregnancy. Abortions are very common. In fact, 3 out of 10 women in the U.S. have an abortion by the time they are 45 years old.

In addition to providing abortion services (both in-clinic and by pill), we also offer pre- and post- abortion patient education, post-abortion follow-up exams, and sedation options. All services require an appointment, to which you must bring a valid photo ID - click here to find the health center that's most convenient for you, and to find out more details about which services are offered there.

If you are a minor, click here for further information and the Parental Notification Form.

Image that you have to prove who you are to get an abortion, but not to vote on who will lead your country.

Abortions are available at many Planned Parenthood health centers, clinics, and the offices of private health care providers. Use our health center locator to find the nearest Planned Parenthood health center that offers abortion services. If there is not a health center nearby that provides the abortion services you need, call your nearest center for a list of referrals.

Nationwide, it can cost up to $1,500 for abortion in the first trimester, but it's often less. The cost is usually more for a second-trimester abortion. Costs vary depending on how long you've been pregnant, where you go, and the method you choose.

- See more at: https://www.plannedparenthood.org/planned-parenthood-southwest-central-florida/medical-services/abortion/cost-of-abortion#sthash.JX2CJKfZ.dpuf

And here I was thinking that they reason they were so protective of PP was because they gave FREE ABORTIONS. Now I see their charges  $1500.00 or more.
So...WHY are they so protective of PP????

[docstew]

Did you know you have to have a valid ID to have an abortion?

I didn't, until I checked PP site.

https://www.plannedparenthood.org/planned-parenthood-southwest-central-florida/medical-services/abortion

Image that you have to prove who you are to get an abortion, but not to vote on who will lead your country.

- See more at: https://www.plannedparenthood.org/planned-parenthood-southwest-central-florida/medical-services/abortion/cost-of-abortion#sthash.JX2CJKfZ.dpuf

And here I was thinking that they reason they were so protective of PP was because they gave FREE ABORTIONS. Now I see their charges  $1500.00 or more.
So...WHY are they so protective of PP????

Why are our tax dollars going to such a RACIST organization? Demanding to see an ID. Seriously! Defund the PPKKK!!! </DU mode>

[FiddyBeowulf]

Did you know you have to have a valid ID to have an abortion?

I didn't, until I checked PP site.

https://www.plannedparenthood.org/planned-parenthood-southwest-central-florida/medical-services/abortion

Image that you have to prove who you are to get an abortion, but not to vote on who will lead your country.

- See more at: https://www.plannedparenthood.org/planned-parenthood-southwest-central-florida/medical-services/abortion/cost-of-abortion#sthash.JX2CJKfZ.dpuf

And here I was thinking that they reason they were so protective of PP was because they gave FREE ABORTIONS. Now I see their charges  $1500.00 or more.
So...WHY are they so protective of PP????

How much of the $1500 is kicked back to dem politicians as campaign contributions?

[Duke Nukum]

Peripheral sliver, sounds like the DUmmy is describing the size of his or her Johnson.

If I ever make a stab at moling again on DU, Peripheral Sliver will be my DUmmie name.

[SVPete]

Did you know you have to have a valid ID to have an abortion?

I didn't, until I checked PP site.

https://www.plannedparenthood.org/planned-parenthood-southwest-central-florida/medical-services/abortion

Image that you have to prove who you are to get an abortion, but not to vote on who will lead your country.

- See more at: https://www.plannedparenthood.org/planned-parenthood-southwest-central-florida/medical-services/abortion/cost-of-abortion#sthash.JX2CJKfZ.dpuf

And here I was thinking that they reason they were so protective of PP was because they gave FREE ABORTIONS. Now I see their charges  $1500.00 or more.
So...WHY are they so protective of PP????

Joking aside, this is probably part of their efforts to screen out known people from Lila Rose's and James O'Keefe's groups (Live Action and Truth Project, respectively).

[67 Rover]

Did you know you have to have a valid ID to have an abortion?

I didn't, until I checked PP site.

https://www.plannedparenthood.org/planned-parenthood-southwest-central-florida/medical-services/abortion

Image that you have to prove who you are to get an abortion, but not to vote on who will lead your country.

- See more at: https://www.plannedparenthood.org/planned-parenthood-southwest-central-florida/medical-services/abortion/cost-of-abortion#sthash.JX2CJKfZ.dpuf

And here I was thinking that they reason they were so protective of PP was because they gave FREE ABORTIONS. Now I see their charges  $1500.00 or more.
So...WHY are they so protective of PP????

I suspect the ID is necessary to determine what to do with the underage rape victims files once the procedure has been performed. 

[Duke Nukum]

I suspect the ID is necessary to determine what to do with the underage rape victims files once the procedure has been performed. 

Or maybe to run background checks in case of citizen reporters.

[Linda]

Joking aside, this is probably part of their efforts to screen out known people from Lila Rose's and James O'Keefe's groups (Live Action and Truth Project, respectively).

You probably hit the nail on the head.

But if they are charging that much money for the abortions, why are they getting money form taxpayers? They should be self supporting.

[Tess Anderson]

"friends with Cecile"  Marc can't help but to name drop

Response to DFW (Original post)Sun Apr 16, 2017, 04:06 PM
Warpy (93,194 posts)
1. Well, since he's anatomically exempt from needing women's health care

we know what his opinion on it is worth and where he can stick it.

but she doesn't consider Marc's opinion to be worthless because the old bat agrees with him.

[jukin]

Forget it Jake this is abortion town.


The problem is, get this, government. Government gives stupid and lazy people more money to have more children. However, the government will also pay for women to kill their children. It's all Catch-22 with this.

[Maverick1987]

Here, for the record, was my response:

Can someone please give DFW a treat!  And maybe pat his head, or rub his belly.

[SVPete]

You probably hit the nail on the head.

But if they are charging that much money for the abortions, why are they getting money form taxpayers? They should be self supporting.

Why be self-supporting if PP can triple-dip: charge clients for their abortions; get government $$ for those services; get money from donors by pretending to be a beneficent but threatened charity.

[Movie buff- The Sequel]

"I should have added that anyone who is NOT a vegetarian and is cool with the death penalty has NO business calling themselves "pro-life.""

Idiot.
1. Animals are not people, so it doesn't apply in the least. I know you, like most pretentious vegetarians, have been brainwashed by Ingrid Newkirk's idiotic saying that "A rat is a pig is a dog is a boy," but it simply doesn't apply in real life. Add to that the fact that meat- eating is natural and (When done in proper amounts) healthy, while neither of those facts apply to abortion.  Go choke on some awful- tasting tofu, I'll be enjoying some tasty chicken wings topped with my secret- recipe barbecue sauce as part of my dinner tonight.
2. You liberal scum may enjoy trying to pretend that those who support the death penalty yet oppose abortion are somehow hypocrites, but that comparison falls flat as well, for a simple reason: People on death row got there by doing horrible things like murder. By making the choice to do those horrible things, they have forfeited their right to life. Babies in the womb are completely innocent (The most innocent human beings on the planet, in fact), so they have done nothing to forfeit their right to life. Understand?

[98ZJUSMC]

If I ever make a stab at moling again on DU, Peripheral Sliver will be my DUmmie name.

[SVPete]

I should have added that anyone who is NOT a vegetarian and is cool with the death penalty has NO business calling themselves "pro-life."

1.) Believing, as I do, in Creation, I do not view humans as the most advanced animals to have evolved so far.

2.) DFW may not see a difference between a murderer and an innocent human being, but I do.

3.) Pro-Abortion people lack credibility when they create question-begging "definitions" of "Pro-Life".