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France: Deradicalization of Jihadists a "Total Fiasco"
« on: February 28, 2017, 07:48:58 AM »
I got to this via ZeroHedge.  H/T to them.

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France: Deradicalization of Jihadists a "Total Fiasco"

by Soeren Kern
February 26, 2017 at 5:00 am

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  • ◾The report implies that deradicalization, either in specialized centers or in prisons, does not work because most Islamic radicals do not want to be deradicalized.]
  • ◾Although France is home to an estimated 8,250 hardcore Islamic radicals, only 17 submitted applications and just nine arrived. Not a single resident has completed the full ten-month curriculum.
  • ◾By housing Islamists in separate prison wings, they actually had become more violent because they were emboldened by "the group effect," according to Justice Minister Jean-Jacques Urvoas.
  • ◾"Deradicalizing someone does not happen in six months. These people, who have not been given an ideal and who have clung to Islamic State's ideology, are not going to get rid of it just like that. There is no 'Open Sesame.'" — Senator Esther Benbassa.
  • ◾"The deradicalization program is a total fiasco. Everything must be rethought, everything must be redesigned from scratch." — Senator Philippe Bas, the head of the Senate committee that commissioned the report.

The French government's flagship program to deradicalize jihadists is a "total failure" and must be "completely reconceptualized," according to the initial conclusions of a parliamentary fact-finding commission on deradicalization.

The preliminary report reveals that the government has nothing to show for the tens of millions of taxpayer euros it has spent over the past several years to combat Islamic radicalization in France, where 238 people have been killed in jihadist attacks since January 2015. The report implies that deradicalization, either in specialized centers or in prisons, does not work because most Islamic radicals do not want to be deradicalized.

The report, "Deindoctrination, Derecruitment and Reintegration of Jihadists in France and Europe" (Désendoctrinement, désembrigadement et réinsertion des djihadistes en France et en Europe) — the title avoids using the word "deradicalization" because it is considered by some to be politically incorrect — was presented to the Senate Committee on Constitutional and Legal Affairs on February 22.

The report is the preliminary version of a comprehensive study currently being conducted by a cross-party task force charged with evaluating the effectiveness of the government's deradicalization efforts. The final report is due in July.

Much of the criticism focuses on a €40 million ($42 million) plan to build 13 deradicalization centers — known as Centers for Prevention, Integration and Citizenship (Centre de prévention, d'insertion et de citoyenneté, CPIC) — one in each of France's metropolitan regions, aimed at deradicalizing would-be jihadists.

Hey!  Radical Islamists don't want to be deradicalized!  Who knew? :confused:

The rest of this is here:  https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/9982/france-deradicalization

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Re: France: Deradicalization of Jihadists a "Total Fiasco"
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2017, 07:57:52 AM »
Have they tried using bullets?

I guaranty that a jihadi would no longer be radicalized if they used some bullets on them instead whatever they are doing now.
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Re: France: Deradicalization of Jihadists a "Total Fiasco"
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2017, 08:24:57 AM »
Have they tried using bullets?

I guaranty that a jihadi would no longer be radicalized if they used some bullets on them instead whatever they are doing now.

Only for the Bataclan attackers. :whistling:
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Re: France: Deradicalization of Jihadists a "Total Fiasco"
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2017, 06:30:28 PM »
Hopefully, bleeding-heart liberals will see this . . . before other parts of their bodies--and others' bodies--start to bleed. ::)
If they see it, one of three options will take place:
1. They'll decry the story as "False propaganda," and accuse all those associated with it of racism.
2. They'll insist that we aren't using "The right methods," insisting that even the most hardened Jihadists can be turned into model citizens by being allowed to stay in 5- star facilities in which they're treated like kings, and given copies of 'The Communist Manifesto' and 'Das Kapital' to read and listening to John Lennon's 'Imagine.'
3. They'll insist that nothing is wrong with the Jihadists, that they're noble heroes taking a stand against bigotry who we should all root for.

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Re: France: Deradicalization of Jihadists a "Total Fiasco"
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2017, 09:54:17 AM »
Hopefully, bleeding-heart liberals will see this . . . before other parts of their bodies--and others' bodies--start to bleed. ::)

It will make no impression.  They are immune to reality, unless and until they are directly, personally affected by some particular outrage that shakes the roots of their lifelong indoctrination, and some not even then.
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Re: France: Deradicalization of Jihadists a "Total Fiasco"
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2017, 01:33:10 PM »
If they see it, one of three options will take place:
1. They'll decry the story as "False propaganda," and accuse all those associated with it of racism.
2. They'll insist that we aren't using "The right methods," insisting that even the most hardened Jihadists can be turned into model citizens by being allowed to stay in 5- star facilities in which they're treated like kings, and given copies of 'The Communist Manifesto' and 'Das Kapital' to read and listening to John Lennon's 'Imagine.'
3. They'll insist that nothing is wrong with the Jihadists, that they're noble heroes taking a stand against bigotry who we should all root for.

4. They were just born that way so we must "understand" how they feel.
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