sabra (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-08-08 11:38 AM
Original message http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3429480
Georgian President requests U.S. support in war with Russia
Advertisements [?]Source: CNN via panarmenian.net
Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili stated that Russia started war with Georgia.
"It's in the interests of the United States to extend a helping hand to Georgia. Russia is fighting a war with us in our own territory," Saakashvili said in an interview with CNN.
"Georgia will withdraw its unit from Iraq to give a proper response to Russian aggression," he said, RBC reports.
Read more: http://www.panarmenian.net/news/eng/?nid=26849
bushmeister0 (725 posts) Fri Aug-08-08 11:45 AM
Response to Original message
2. Yow! Lucky for us Cheney is in charge while W. is off eating Chinese food.
He'll know what to do. God help us!
I wonder if they know we already have US forces in Georgia.
MadrasT (428 posts) Fri Aug-08-08 08:31 PM
Response to Reply #3
88. Oh. ****. Me.
That is NOT good. I have a knot in my tummy.
Of course you do. You are a ****ing *****.
The Croquist (366 posts) Fri Aug-08-08 12:05 PM
Response to Reply #5
13. How was Georgia the aggressor?
They were fighting rebels on their own territory not Russian territory.
I wonder what Russia is up to. Do they really care about Georgia?
Better start sending faxes of hands to teh Russian Embassy.
atreides1 (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-08-08 04:15 PM
Response to Reply #57
59. They are still recognized by another sovereign state
And only Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and the UAE recognized the Tali ban as the legitimate government of Afghanistan, and no one seemed to have a problem with that until 9/11!
If the people of South Ossetian don't want Georgian rule, that should be their choice shouldn't it, after all they have been autonomous for the last 16 years.
Something akin to what the US tried to do for the Kurds of Iraq.
The logic at teh DUmp never fails to amuse.
The Croquist (366 posts) Sat Aug-09-08 07:01 AM
Response to Reply #59
108. Some Afghani's had a problem with the Taliban prior to 911
Most countries cared very little about Afghanistan prior to 911 but there was a civil war going on. The opposition was called the "Northern Alliance" and did most of the dieing for the US during the invasion.
I don't buy this sudden burst of humanitarianism from the Russians. They don't seem to feel the same way when it comes Chechnya.
I also think that the Russian response was suspiciously fast. It reminds me a bit like Nazi Germany's response when Poland "attacked" it in 1939 or Japan's response when China "attacked" it in 1937. In both case the nation that was "attacked" just happened to have it's military in readiness at the crucial time and place.
Typically sudden attacks on countries or allies take much longer to respond to. Brittan and France declared war on Germany following the German invasion but didn't have a chance to do squat before Poland fell. Conveniently the Russians just happened to be ready.
tama (577 posts) Fri Aug-08-08 05:12 PM
Response to Reply #57
65. Kosovo
Nobody recognized Kosovo when CIA-supported Albanian terrorists provoked Serbia to bring peace back to Kosovo, giving Clinton pretext to start a Clinton war.
Oh, the hypocrisy...
freeper mole!!!
ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-08-08 05:05 PM
Response to Reply #23
63. Hitler used that reasoning when invading czechoslovakia in 1938
Hitler was rescuing the Germans that were cut off.....
If talking about Russians protecting Russians in another country that is.
btw
why didn't the UN recognize South Ossetia? What were the reasons against recognizing them in the 90's ?
OOooo....Hitler....the DUmp must be serious...
YankmeCrankme (491 posts) Fri Aug-08-08 07:22 PM
Response to Reply #63
76. Wow, what revisionist thinking.
Hitler's claim was false, no Germans were in danger in Czechoslovakia, whereas Georgia has actually attacked South Ossetia.
I think you need to lay off the crank.
Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-08-08 03:22 PM
Response to Reply #5
56. BS, Georgia is a victim of Russian imperialism and revanchism.
The South Ossetian and Abkhaz "rebels" are Russian patsies.
And the KGB was on teh grassy knoll...
JonQ (83 posts) Fri Aug-08-08 11:52 AM
Response to Original message
6. Nope
not our problem. Let the UN handle it.
Now, that is funny.
NM Independent (445 posts) Fri Aug-08-08 11:58 AM
Response to Original message
8. Hey Georgia...
**** right off, okay?
Don't get yourself into situations like this and you won't be begging for help. I hope the Russians set you straight.
Obama's official policy?
tuckessee (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-08-08 12:29 PM
Response to Original message
19. No way the US is taking on an opponent that can fight.
After whipping the likes of Grenada, Panama, and sanction weakened Iraq the US military would fold up like a cheap suit before a worthy opponent.
Or they will resort to worldwide all out thermonuclear war at the first hint of a battlefield setback.
Why is it the leftists always bank on us to loose any conflict?
The Croquist (366 posts) Sat Aug-09-08 07:20 AM
Response to Reply #19
112. From memory Iraq had the 4th largest army in the world in 1991
Complete with thousands of tanks and hundreds of Soviet and French planes. The US took them on. Not only that but the Iraqi army, unlike the US army, had been proven in battle for years against the Iranians. Not to mention the elite "Republican Guard".
True. thousands of cheap assed russian tanks that exploded when we shot at them from 3.5 kms.
tuckessee (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-09-08 10:53 AM
Response to Reply #112
119. Know your history.
The US bombed Iraq.
Then the US tricked the Iraqis into thinking they could pull their forces out of Kuwait under a battlefield truce then ambushed them while they were retreating.
See Seymour Hersh's article on the matter.
You didn't take on and defeat the Iraqi Army in open battle.
Revisionist history? or just plain ****ing crazy?
ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-08-08 05:14 PM
Response to Reply #39
67. What did Barak say aout it ?, I can't find anything.
must be on vacation .....
not good imo
edwardlindy (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-08-08 01:34 PM
Response to Original message
44. Please notice
that he is asking help from an administration which also tampered with an election.
you have go to be ****ing kidding me.
Vinca (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-08-08 04:19 PM
Response to Reply #54
60. Time to draft the College Republicans then. nt
Always the same talking points for every situation, isn't it?
tama (577 posts) Fri Aug-08-08 06:37 PM
Response to Reply #54
72. In realm of Real Politics
What can BushCo or NATO do? BushCo allready engaged in couple of lost wars cannot do zit against a nucular power except whine and most NATO countries being totally dependent on Russian oil and natural gass - and Kosovo crime against UN Charter on their consciousness - cannot even seriously whine. Such is the current balance of power and Shakasvili is a total idiot for misreading the situation.
Georgians are not Finns and this is not the Winter War, no resemblance what so ever.
The Generals at DU have spoken.
New Dawn (862 posts) Sat Aug-09-08 03:17 AM
Response to Original message
105. Georgia's Saakashvili commits war crimes against humanity
Snip: "We lost our city ... The Georgians are like Nazis, they are killing civilians, women and children with heavy artillery and rockets," said 28-year-old Sarmat Laliyev, a Tskhinvali resident who had fled to Dzhava, a village near the border with Russia. Source: http://english.pravda.ru/news/hotspots/08-08-2008/10604...
Video from the front: http://www.russiatoday.com/news/news/28698/video
Hmmm...the russians are spamming DU.
