LdB: More and more people are saying it...election fraud

[dutch508]

Star Member LaydeeBug (8,896 posts)

More and more people are saying it...election fraud...machine tampering fraud...yep AND down ballot

and I mean Trump Chumps.

I live among these people...in a very red section of a very blue state. As more and more people are starting to say so, yesterday's news of popular vote loser and proud Russian Puppet President Trump gutting the only agency to protect us from it, and there is little doubt.

This is not normal.

This election was STOLEN. Yes, I mean voting equipment.

DON'T LET THEM GASLIGHT YOU

DON'T LET THEM FRAME THE NARRATIVE

From a friend's wall, names have been changed because I said so:

CJ: I'll just say it: I believe that the "data that turned the world upside down" is altered data of tabulated votes from about 10-15 precincts in the rust belt. I think treating this or looking at this like it's a legitimate election is insane.
Unlike · Reply · 2 · Yesterday at 9:23am

Respondent #2: wait. are you saying that this election was legit stolen?
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CJ: Yes. I believe that the number of people who actually voted for Trump and the number of votes that Trump received are not within a reasonable level of parity. And that Trump is brilliant at one thing: getting liberals to argue his case for him before he even needs to make it. In particular, he gets liberals to constantly argue that there cannot possibly be voter fraud or election rigging and tampering, when he is the biggest perpetrator of it.

I believe this because it is a more likely scenario than every pollster getting it wrong. It's a more likely scenario than having what, 2 million people show up at protests in the dead middle of winter? For every person who showed up at a protest, how many were at home? You and I both know the ratios on that? Getting someone to go to a protest is how many times harder than getting them to vote? 10x? 50x? The numbers don't add up. To believe otherwise is to believe that statistical modeling just straight up doesn't work, a whole bunch of people showed up to a set of protests (twice this week) that didn't actually vote, and that all of the election tampering claims from the previous administration are lies.

 

Star Member LaydeeBug (8,896 posts)
4. Yep... the attitude is shifting from "No way was it stolen" to "Russia did us a favor"

and it sounds like they are two sides of the same coin, but it ISN'T:

Liberals and progressives are saying more and more that this was stolen (as referenced in the conversation above) and less and less conservatives are defending it.

Star Member Botany (42,750 posts)
2. The #s and facts don't lie

This election was stolen on many levels. Including house and senate races.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/01/24/russians-suspected-hacking-wisconsin-dems/97023222/

Star Member BlueCaliDem (15,238 posts)
5. I've believed this from the start, but to say so was shot down pretty quickly. However, since

I simply can't accept that ALL pollsters were wrong and that Republican dominated States believe in "fair and free" elections, I maintain that this election was stolen in every which way possible--including tampering with the vote count.

Trumpsters already have buyer's remorse. Republicans we know who voted for Trump (because he's a businessman and they just don't understand that being a businessman is not the same as governing as president) only heard about Russia's interference after the elections and are now grabbing their hair in despair. Of course they won't say this up front and in public, but when they believe you're a Republican, they admit this in private.

These Trumpsters believe that hubby is a Republican (wears suits and ties and has that 'Republican look'), and they believe my son is a Republican because he plays that part, and they've shown their despair and anxiety in private. In public, they defend Trump with all the zeal of a dismissive fanatic.

Star Member LaydeeBug (8,896 posts)
11. I noticed how quickly it was shot down...but where are they now?

There were *VEHEMENT* dismissals of a stolen election..I dare even say bully

I notice I don't see them much now...

Star Member LaydeeBug (8,896 posts)
37. and they were a FORCE, like coordinating with each other

But of course, du was certainly too small a venture for hackers to even bother with...nothing to see here.   


And just for the record, I think they were just trying to make sure the electors went through with it.

Rene (815 posts)
8. i believe the election was stolen...as they have been since 1999...by switching servers/programs

I support scheduling batch jobs on 1000+ distributed servers. Applications are built with primary and secondary servers defined. It's extremely easy to switch servers and have an alternative program on the secondary server that's flipping votes as programmed by certain individuals. That's what happened with 1999 voting in a certain Secretary of State's computer processing site.....was switched to another state at 10pm...and switched back at 1030 with votes for Gore/Bush reversed. Someone watching their monitors would not even know the switch of servers happened behind the scenes.
Need access to logs from the (official) primary servers to show the switch to different url's.

Star Member NRaleighLiberal (40,707 posts)
12. Yes it was stolen. So nothing else matters - not the "Hillary didn't run an appropriate campaign"

not any excuse that we see so often. The fact that this election was stolen means no arguments or reasons hold water at all.

Hillary ran a great campaign - she should be president. Period.

Star Member mopinko (47,774 posts)
16. i think it is starting. my own trumpkin is melting.

he's one of those-went so far left he came out the other side.
trying to mouth the talking points, but looking green around the gills.

Star Member malaise (151,888 posts)
20. I saw it coming when Groper Don the Con started the rigging discussion

History will absolve me

Star Member LaydeeBug (8,896 posts)
25. I am really, really shocked at how many on here agree too...remember how, just after

the coup, it was like something that would get locked right away.

Or a chorus of trojans would begin saying "prove it" or, the perennial favorite, "So what, we do it too"

I guess they're drinking Moscow Mules right now

 

[jukin]

Stooopid DUchebags are going to get a real investigation that may just make another democrat elected to anything impossible.

[FunkyZero]

Dear Lord that shtick is getting old. She's lost her comedic luster...  now all it does is irritate me.

[Ralph Wiggum]

Um, no one is talking about it.  Only the voices in your head, moonbat.

[Maverick1987]

That's some industrial strength stupid right there 

[ADsOutburst]

Speaking of things that don't add up, they expect us to believe that Trump voters are having buyer's remorse, even as he continues to do things he said he would do. 

[Fourwinds]

Deal Lord that shtick is getting old. She's lost her comedic luster...  now all it does is irritate me.

The more the Democrat Party sounds like these lunatics, the less funny I find it. I haven't laughed at these jokers in awhile. Given how crazy they have gotten I've started getting myself back into fighting shape and going to the range more often.

[98ZJUSMC]

Um, no one is talking about it.  Only the voices in your head, moonbat.

Yes.  They get louder each day.

From a friend's wall, names have been changed because I said so:

CJ: I'll just say it: I believe that the "data that turned the world upside down"

   There it is.  Indisputable proof.  We're doooooomed. 

[98ZJUSMC]

Speaking of things that don't add up, they expect us to believe that Trump voters are having buyer's remorse, even as he continues to do things he said he would do. 

They have to.  They can't not do it.

Funny, as Trump's approval is over 50% in two polls.  Reuters and Rasmussen, IIRC.  ....and BTW lurking Gerber®burpers:

57% approve of the ban EO. 

[98ZJUSMC]

Deal Lord that shtick is getting old. She's lost her comedic luster...  now all it does is irritate me.

The entire Romper Room is.  It's definitely getting old.

[FiddyBeowulf]

I hope the DUmmies figure this Russian hacking riddle out so they can get back to important things. For instance, Capt. Queeg still needs help finding out who took the strawberries.

[freedumb2003b]

Trumpsters already have buyer's remorse. Republicans we know who voted for Trump (because he's a businessman and they just don't understand that being a businessman is not the same as governing as president) only heard about Russia's interference after the elections and are now grabbing their hair in despair. Of course they won't say this up front and in public, but when they believe you're a Republican, they admit this in private.

No they aren't because, WINNING!  You know no Republicans and there is not a single Republican or Conservative out there that thinks Russia had anything to do with anything.  No hair, no despair.  And you are not privy to the private discussions that consist of "I wish I could publicly exclaim louder how great Trump is and how is MAGA but I don't wan't my car keyed and trouble at work."

Bouncies as far as the eye can see.

[freedumb2003b]

Stooopid DUchebags are going to get a real investigation that may just make another democrat elected to anything impossible.

I wish they would make up their minds. 

1) This election was STOLEN!  THEY WUZ ROBBED!! ROBBED THEY TELLZ US!!!
2) This election was the most honest ever on record.  Pure as the driven snow.  A deep investigation into voting fraud is a waste of time and taxpayer money!!

[USA4ME]

LaydeeBug

From a friend's wall, names have been changed because I said so: ...

Because I said so?? She's getting nadin-like in her authoritarian persona.

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[ShortGuy]

I would say this is funny but honestly their rhetoric is getting old. Make up your damn minds. The Democrats are toddlers lashing out.


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[SVPete]

OMG, I'm relieved! I hadn't seen a Buggee thread or post rowed over here, so I was afraid Buggee had disappeared from DU, voluntarily or involuntarily.

Star Member LaydeeBug (8,896 posts)

More and more people are saying it...election fraud...machine tampering fraud...yep AND down ballot

Star Member LaydeeBug (8,896 posts)
11. I noticed how quickly it was shot down...but where are they now?

There were *VEHEMENT* dismissals of a stolen election..I dare even say bully

I notice I don't see them much now...

Did any DU-folk notice that these two posts are contradictory? I wonder ... are those "More and more people" actually voices in her head, which would explain how "I don't see them much now" could be true?

[Carl]

Bat shit crazy at its finest.

[SVPete]

Star Member BlueCaliDem (15,238 posts)
5. ...

Trumpsters already have buyer's remorse. Republicans we know who voted for Trump (because he's a businessman and they just don't understand that being a businessman is not the same as governing as president) only heard about Russia's interference after the elections and are now grabbing their hair in despair. Of course they won't say this up front and in public, but when they believe you're a Republican, they admit this in private.

Bovine excrement! The MSM had been making wild claims about Russian hacking months before the election. So, "only heard about Russia's interference after the elections," is non-credible. As for what Trump voters - real ones, not - fantasy "Trump voters" - say, just look at my signature line.Choosing Trump, in whom I had little confidence, over Hillary was easy, because of how corrupt, inept, and arrogant Hillary is. Trump has surprised at at almost every turn, and every surprise has been a good one, from my POV of course. Other Trump voters I know are split between those similarly surprised and those who believed he would do what he has done, and voted for that.

[DLR Pyro]

DON'T LET THEM GASLIGHT YOU

What's up with this term "gaslight"?  I have heard it used repeatedly since the election.  Is this a talking point work the left is supposed to use like the word "gravitas" was used back in 2001 with Bush?

[Happy Fun Ball]

What's up with this term "gaslight"?  I have heard it used repeatedly since the election.  Is this a talking point work the left is supposed to use like the word "gravitas" was used back in 2001 with Bush?

Gaslight, or 'gaslighting' is an old term meaning intentionally trying to drive someone insane and make them doubt their own beliefs. There is an old movie (same name) where someone tries to drive his wife insane so she would leave the house and allow him to search the attic for money left there. Every so often and without warning, the lights (gas at that time) would dim for a while, because he was using lights in the attic, which drained the power to the rest of the house.

Basically, an old word for psyops.

[docstew]

Gaslight, or 'gaslighting' is an old term meaning intentionally trying to drive someone insane and make them doubt their own beliefs. There is an old movie (same name) where someone tries to drive his wife insane so she would leave the house and allow him to search the attic for money left there. Every so often and without warning, the lights (gas at that time) would dim for a while, because he was using lights in the attic, which drained the power to the rest of the house.

Basically, an old word for psyops.

In general usage, it means someone is telling you something is true that you know to be false. Kinda how the Oministration did: "Yes, unemployment dropped again to 4.7%. No, don't look at the raw numbers. Don't you trust us?"

[SVPete]

In Buggee usage and Lib/Prog usage generally, it's bogey-facts communicated by bogeymen that and whom Libs & Progs don't want to hear or be heard.

[Adam Wood]

It's TIA all over again: "It can't be that we lost because the exit polls say so!!!"

[DumbAss Tanker]

LdB: More and more people are saying it...election fraud

Yeah, no they're not.