DUmmie hypocrisy: "N" word used at work

[FunkyZero]

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Tue Feb 7, 2017, 05:28 PM
Star Member masmdu (2,016 posts)

"N" word used at work ...unsure of how to respond
So, I am a teacher in a title one elementary school (North Carolina) that serves some 300 mostly black students. Today at a staff meeting the principal referred to our students as "crazy n*****s". Perhaps sensing that this was not received well by some in the room she then clarified that she doesn't mean it "racially".
I was shocked and unsure how to react. I didn't respond but I am uncomfortable leaving it as is.
Any advice on how I might handle this would be greatly appreciated.

So right out of the gate, it's what you would anticipate:

But THEN... they find out...

Response to masmdu (Reply #10)
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 05:39 PM
Star Member masmdu (2,016 posts)
14. BTW, I'm a White male and the principal is a Black female.

Response to masmdu (Reply #14)
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 06:26 PM

dionysus (26,465 posts)
63. If the person who dropped the N is black, that's a very important detail to mention.
It changes the scenario from obvious racism, to one of an unprofessional, innapropriate remark.

Response to boston bean (Reply #76)
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 12:11 AM

SaschaHM (1,838 posts)
139. Yup.
This is trademark "well-meaning white liberal" who doesn't understand black culture trying to change it to something that doesn't offend their sensibilities.
I don't use the word. I have family members that do. However, I'll be damned if I stop using it because it "offends" white people.

Response to bravenak (Reply #11)

Tue Feb 7, 2017, 05:47 PM

Star Member boston bean (29,096 posts)
23. I think you being played.

hhehe

[dutch508]

Star Member masmdu (2,016 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028610568

"N" word used at work ...unsure of how to respond

So, I am a teacher in a title one elementary school (North Carolina) that serves some 300 mostly black students. Today at a staff meeting the principal referred to our students as "crazy n*****s". Perhaps sensing that this was not received well by some in the room she then clarified that she doesn't mean it "racially".

I was shocked and unsure how to react. I didn't respond but I am uncomfortable leaving it as is.

Any advice on how I might handle this would be greatly appreciated.

 

Star Member guillaumeb (10,419 posts)
1. If you are a unionized teacher, contact the union.

A big question, speaking as a retired union representative, is the question of witnesses and corroborative testimony.

Are others willing to testify to the truth of what you allege has happened?

 

Star Member oasis (29,971 posts)
2. What is the racial makeup of the faculty?

Star Member masmdu (2,016 posts)
14. BTW, I'm a White male and the principal is a Black female.

 

dionysus (26,465 posts)
63. If the person who dropped the N is black, that's a very important detail to mention.

It changes the scenario from obvious racism, to one of an unprofessional, innapropriate remark.

 

True Dough (2,111 posts)
4. Doesn't sound like the right person to be at the head of a school

I would consider reporting it to her supervisor at the district level or whatever the reporting hierarchy may be. But be prepared for having a confrontation with the principal when she finds out you have gone over her head. If you're willing to withstand a possible showdown, let it be known to the higher-ups.

bravenak This message was self-deleted by its author.

Doodley (821 posts)
8. Use a smartphone to record future meetings.

Once you have recorded any repetition, you have an insurance policy against being fired.

just a clarification: The person saying this was black. The OP is white.
 

Star Member boston bean (29,096 posts)
22. Because as she said it wasn't racial. It was clutural. If the teacher had been white

then you would have reason to lodge a complaint.

It may not have been a good decision to use the word but I believe she didn't mean it like a white person would.

S

tar Member OldHippieChick (977 posts)
96. It is obvious to many of us and I think you may be looking for a reason to report her since you mentioned you didn't like her for other reasons. Simply put, her use of the "n" word is different than if you, a white man, used it. Believe that as I can assure you some of the people telling you this are black.

the OP is using his white male privilege on that black ass!

Star Member whathehell (18,281 posts)
66. Double standards much?

I fully recognize that the N-word carries far more negatively coming from a white person, but to say that a white teacher has no right to even mention it's coming from a black principle is too extreme, especially when you'd condone immediate firing for a white person using it.

Star Member boston bean (29,096 posts)
37. It may be. And it could have been said in jest and in a loving way. As many black persons use it as
term of endearmemt. Not as a racial slur.

Star Member boston bean (29,096 posts)
58. True about the history of white people using that word.

It is different when black people use it. It does not have the same meaning.

How you feel about it usage in the black community is anecdotal and way different than some white male taking offense to a black woman using the word in a non derogatory non racial manner.

It does not hold the same offense. And honestly I find this persons taking offense like a black person would when called that by a white person and like it is the same, to be racially offensive.

Star Member bravenak (33,222 posts)
30. You should have just said she was black

I bet I know exactly what she actually said.

Star Member bravenak (33,222 posts)
50. You think it would sound the same coming from a black woman as a white man?

Um, no. I say shit like that all the time. But let some white dude come say it about my kids and it would have me feeling like a slave. It's different.

KosherPinay (4 posts)
47. Let it go



She is black AND female.

You are white and male.

I would let it go unless you want to be "involved" for the long haul. It may not end well for her but it definitely won't end well for you.

If race and gender were reversed it would be a completely different story.

 

Star Member BigDemVoter (2,086 posts)
98. Report her ass.

She CANNOT talk like that. I would pick up the phone and report her to her boss. Who does she report to? I would do it and do it FAST. Were there other witnesses to this awful, awful statement?

Oh, and yes, she voted for Trump. I can assure you of that without ever having met the maggot.

SaschaHM (1,839 posts)
125. You don't get to police the language and actions of black people just because you as a white person

can't emulate them or don't understand them. Sorry. Context matters. In the many minority majority communities, the term is not used in a derogatory manner. period. Those are the brakes. Now we don't have a lot of context nor the racial make up of the room, but age has never played a role in whether a black person can or can not use a word.

kwassa (21,768 posts)
132. You as a white person don't get to decide what it is appropriate for black people to talk about.

I know, all the time your people spent in slavery ....

 

[FaC]

BS. If that had really happened in a school staff meeting, in NC today with everything else race related that is going on and from a principal it would have made statewide and probably national news.


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[Carl]

Star Member boston bean (29,096 posts)
22. Because as she said it wasn't racial. It was clutural. If the teacher had been white

then you would have reason to lodge a complaint.

It may not have been a good decision to use the word but I believe she didn't mean it like a white person would.

You are one stupid piece of shit.
And I mean that like any normal person would.

[Movie buff- The Sequel]

BS. If that had really happened in a school staff meeting, in NC today with everything else race related that is going on and from a principal it would have made statewide and probably national news.


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I doubt it would, on the grounds that the DUmmy says the principal was a black woman. When a black person says the "N" word, liberal morons cheer them on. It explains the popularity of gangsta (c)rap music, as most of its artists say the "N" word at least once every 7 seconds.

[Big Dog]

Star Member bravenak (33,222 posts)
50. You think it would sound the same coming from a black woman as a white man?

Um, no. I say shit like that all the time. But let some white dude come say it about my kids and it would have me feeling like a slave. It's different.

**** your feelings, black chick. I mean that in a totally non-sexual way.

[docstew]

So, once again, we see the DUmmies trying to codify into law that some animals are more equal than others.

[SVPete]

Response to masmdu (Reply #14)
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 06:26 PM

dionysus (26,465 posts)
63. If the person who dropped the N is black, that's a very important detail to mention.
It changes the scenario from obvious racism, to one of an unprofessional, innapropriate remark.

Tue Feb 7, 2017, 05:47 PM

Star Member boston bean (29,096 posts)
23. I think you being played.

It's traumatic, but I have to admit agreeing with bb. It's part of the cost of being honest, . I was going to say "Skillfully trolled", as in, "If it weren't for double-standards ...".

[freedumb2003b]

BS. If that had really happened in a school staff meeting, in NC today with everything else race related that is going on and from a principal it would have made statewide and probably national news.


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No, not if it was a black womyn.  They are incapable of racism nor sexism.

In reality the most sexist and racist people in the USA are black females -- and the DUmmies even acknowledge it in this thread.

But a black using the N word = no story here.

[USA4ME]

I noticed the teacher didn't dispute the students at the school were, in fact, "crazy n*****s", just that the principal called them that.

This teacher is living the dream. He's a self-loathing white male working under the iron fist of a black female and having to teach a bunch of "crazy n*****s". The rest of the primitives are just jealous.

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[Karin]

Some DUmp advice:

Response to masmdu (Original post)
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 01:03 AM
 vlyons (2,093 posts)
164. How someone's words are "meant" is not always how they are received

I would meet with her privately and tell her that you were offended and deeply disappointed. That you thought she was a better person than that. Tell her that how we "mean" our words is not always how they are received. That's why we need to be mindful about what we say and the possible effects that they have on others. Since she is the principal, she has a duty to set the tone and high standards that teachers and students should abide by. Tell her under no conditions is it ever acceptable to use the N-word, especially by an educator in a school. Tell her that a simple apology to the staff would go a long way towards repairing her esteem in the eyes of her staff.

I'm just picturing the response. 

Response to masmdu (Original post)
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 01:22 AM
TransitJohn (6,842 posts)
169. Hostile work environment

Call state labor department.

Allow yourself at least 8 hours between 9:00 am and 3:00 pm.

Response to masmdu (Original post)
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 07:07 AM
fescuerescue (93 posts)
182. I would get the Press involved.

Nothing like a little publicity and protests out front to get this racist fired.

[FunkyZero]

Response to masmdu (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 05:38 PM
Star Member boston bean (29,096 posts)
12. Is the principal black or white?

Response to masmdu (Reply #16)
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 05:41 PM
Star Member boston bean (29,096 posts)
18. Then stand down.

Response to boston bean (Reply #18)
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 05:43 PM
Star Member masmdu (2,016 posts)
21. Why?

Response to masmdu (Reply #21)
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 05:46 PM
Star Member boston bean (29,096 posts)
22. Because as she said it wasn't racial. It was clutural. If the teacher had been white
then you would have reason to lodge a complaint.

Response to boston bean (Reply #22)
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 05:48 PM
Star Member masmdu (2,016 posts)
24. Maybe. But if I used it even with the idea that I didn't mean it
racially I'd be probably be fired in a minute.

Response to masmdu (Reply #24)
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 05:48 PM
Star Member boston bean (29,096 posts)
26. As you should be.

Response to boston bean (Reply #26)
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 05:51 PM
Star Member masmdu (2,016 posts)
32. Care to explain that?

Response to masmdu (Reply #32)
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 05:52 PM
Star Member boston bean (29,096 posts)
34. Nope. Cause it is obvious.

It must be a lot of work keeping on top of all the rules of racism... geez

[SVPete]

Yeah, I think "masmdu" is either a very skillful troll, or a liberal who got mugged by DU's race-baiters and white-guilt-trippers. Either way,  !

[Maverick1987]

^^^ SVPete is correct, but why am I not surprised to see folks at DU defending the use of "crazy n****rs" when referring to school children?  You never disappoint, DU

[Maverick1987]

I noticed the teacher didn't dispute the students at the school were, in fact, "crazy n*****s", just that the principal called them that.

This teacher is living the dream. He's a self-loathing white male working under the iron fist of a black female and having to teach a bunch of "crazy n*****s". The rest of the primitives are just jealous.

.

Exactly. This is story porn over on the island.

[SVPete]

^^^ SVPete is correct, but why am I not surprised to see folks at DU defending the use of "crazy n****rs" when referring to school children?  You never disappoint, DU

IKR? "Crazy N-Word" is denigrating, not buddy-buddy 'hood style. But a black said it, so DU-Progs must defend it or be labelled a "racist" by DU's resident race-baiters.

[VelvetElvis]

SaschaHM (1,839 posts)
125. You don't get to police the language and actions of black people just because you as a white person

can't emulate them or don't understand them. Sorry. Context matters. In the many minority majority communities, the term is not used in a derogatory manner. period. Those are the brakes. Now we don't have a lot of context nor the racial make up of the room, but age has never played a role in whether a black person can or can not use a word.

But of course ANY POC can jump right into Whitey's shit if they say some innocent but 'racist' sounding word like "niggardly" because of course they know and "understand" just how black and vile every honky's heart is.

What a vile snakepit of racism is the fetid swamp known as the DUmp!!

[Maverick1987]

IKR? "Crazy N-Word" is denigrating, not buddy-buddy 'hood style. But a black said it, so DU-Progs must defend it or be labelled a "racist" by DU's resident race-baiters.

As mentioned in the other thread here I believe this is more about the masturbatory fantasy of black females lording over white males than their fear of being called raaaaaaaaaaacist

[GOP Congress]

It must be a lot of work keeping on top of all the rules of racism... geez

It's real simple. If you are white, you are a racist. What's so hard about that?

[USA4ME]

SaschaHM

Those are the brakes.

And here I thought brakes were used for slowing down or stopping. Learn something new everyday. I guess that's the breaks.

.

[BattleHymn]

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[franksolich]

Oh my.

Oh dear.

What can one say?

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