Microsoft can't fool Minnesota Moses

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028566281

Oh my.

MineralMan (90,163 posts)     Mon Jan 30, 2017, 03:05 PM

Just bought a new Windows 10 PC
 
Three hours later, it's still installing the initial update of the operating system. It's in the restart mode now, and crawling to the finish line. I'm less than impressed so far. But, once everything is done, I should have a faster PC that doesn't run an operating system that Microsoft is about to stop supporting.

It seems like the more Microsoft improves their OS, the longer it takes to start working on a new machine. The more they upgrade versions, the more bloated everything gets. But, I'm married to Microsoft Office for my work, and Microsoft has been blasting me with warnings that Vista will no longer be supported soon, so I bit the bullet and bought a new system.

Soon, maybe, I'll be able to do all the file transferring I'm going to have to do, download Chrome and Classic Shell and get back to work.

It'll be fun, they said...
It'll be better, they said...
You'll love it, they said...

And so it goes, I said.

I've been using PCs since MS-DOS 2.1. Everything has steadily gotten more sophisticated, but nothing has really gotten any faster, really. My original copy of Microsoft Word for DOS 1.1 and Office 365 still run at about the same speed, and I'm not typing any faster, either.

More capability always seems to create the need for more and more software bloat. Feh!

Yeah.  I remember when I installed Microsoft 10 here, for weeks and weeks and weeks and months every single day there were little pop-ups--legitimate ones, from Microsoft--advising that I install the newest updates.

It got to be a real pain.  There needs to be a law against someone releasing new computer software until after all the bugs have been worked out of it, and there's no more need to update.

It should also be a law that an update should warn the user how long it's going to take; a few minutes, a few hours, whatever.  I can't count the number of times I sat in front of this computer for hours and hours, twiddling my thumbs waiting for updates to complete themselves.

It's like we got nothing better to do.....

True Dough (1,993 posts)      Mon Jan 30, 2017, 03:09 PM

1. If you are concerned about safety at all
 
Windows 10 is more intrusive than past editions of Windows, gathering and storing all kinds of data about your computing and Internet habits, especially through Cortana, the built-in "personal assistant."

There are some good tips here if you're interested:

http://www.computerworld.com/article/3025709/microsoft-windows/windows-10-quick-tips-how-to-protect-your-privacy.html

MineralMan (90,163 posts)     Mon Jan 30, 2017, 03:13 PM

2. I turned all of that nosy stuff off when I first started
 
the machine. I won't use the cloud storage or Cortana, nor will I allow anything to happen that sends anything to Microsoft or anything else. The "Express Install" automatically turns it all on, but you can customize and turn it all off. I recommend that.

I've been doing this since 1983. Microsoft can't fool me.

Yeah, yeah, sure, sure.

Nothing, but nothing, can fool the smartest people in the universe.

[thundley4]

I turned all of that nosy stuff off when I first started
 
the machine. I won't use the cloud storage or Cortana, nor will I allow anything to happen that sends anything to Microsoft or anything else. The "Express Install" automatically turns it all on, but you can customize and turn it all off. I recommend that.

Liar. There is some of the stuff that phones home to Microsoft that can NOT be turned off.

I have two separate Win 7 disks with 3 licenses for each one. I'll install Win 7 as long as I can. Then I be forced to learn Linux.

[BadCat]

Windows....the best software Indian and Pakistani H1-B programmers can write.

[Carl]

It seems like the more Microsoft improves their OS, the longer it takes to start working on a new machine. The more they upgrade versions, the more bloated everything gets. But, I'm married to Microsoft Office for my work, and Microsoft has been blasting me with warnings that Vista will no longer be supported soon, so I bit the bullet and bought a new system.

George claims to have some sort of web design business and is on a machine running Vista?

[DUmpstruck]

I've been using PCs since MS-DOS 2.1. Everything has steadily gotten more sophisticated, but nothing has really gotten any faster, really. My original copy of Microsoft Word for DOS 1.1 and Office 365 still run at about the same speed, and I'm not typing any faster, either.

And any nano-slice of credibility you ever thought you had just went sailing out the window....

[BattleHymn]

And any nano-slice of credibility you ever thought you had just went sailing out the window....

That's what I was thinking.

This DUmbass thinks he's some kind of demented cross between Andy Rooney and Paul Harvey.  What an idiot.

[SVPete]

George claims to have some sort of web design business and is on a machine running Vista?

IKR? WinVista is 10 years old, and 4 versions down-rev. Win 7 was better. Do the best web design tools still support WinVista?

MS put out the earliest version of Word in late 1983. While what was released might have been downward compatible with MSDOS 1.1, its release coincided with the release of 2.1. Modern versions of Word are vastly more capable than what was released in 1983. It's not even an apples and carrots comparison.

[FunkyZero]

IKR? WinVista is 10 years old, and 4 versions down-rev. Win 7 was better. Do the best web design tools still support WinVista?

MS put out the earliest version of Word in late 1983. While what was released might have been downward compatible with MSDOS 1.1, its release coincided with the release of 2.1. Modern versions of Word are vastly more capable than what was released in 1983. It's not even an apples and carrots comparison.

Yea but you have been fooled my Microsoft, unlike MM. He's too smart for them

[jukin]

Win2000 was the only stable OS MS ever put out. NT was a second.