‘Calexit’ paves way for Republican lock —could finish off Dems as national party

[HAPPY2BME]

January 27, 2017
By Victor Skinner

On Thursday, the California Secretary of State announced that proponents of a constitutional amendment seeking the state’s secession from the United States can begin collecting signatures to put the proposal on the 2018 ballot.

Recent polling shows the move – spawned from residents disgruntled about Republican Donald Trump’s historic victory in the 2016 presidential election – is backed by roughly a third of Californians, the Sacramento Bee reports.

California’s secession would also significantly diminish what’s left of the Democratic Party’s influence in Congress. Currently, 38 Democrats and 14 Republicans represent The Golden State in the U.S. House. Without them, the House would shift to 226 Republicans and 155 Democrats, with two vacant seats, nearly giving the GOP a supermajority.

And without the state’s two Democratic senators, the upper chamber would tilt even more toward Republicans — 44-52 — with two independents.

Reuters reports:

In Lodi, California, Democratic party activist Bruce Rubly, who told Reuters/Ipsos pollsters that he “strongly supported” California secession, said he thinks it could happen if Trump and the Republicans who dominate the U.S. Congress impose conservative policies on such issues as the environment, immigration and marijuana legalization.

“There’s a whole series of things that are going to get Californians riled up,” said Rubly, 68. “And if he pushes those buttons in the wrong way, there’s going to be hell to pay.”

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/calexit-paves-way-republican-lock-finish-off-dems-national-party/

[Ralph Wiggum]

Hey, if Illinois & New York split apart too, wouldn't we all be thrilled!

[Gretchen]

Calif. democrats are too stupid to realize they would soon become Mexico if they were cut off from the rest of the US.

[SVPete]

Calif. democrats are too stupid to realize they would soon become Mexico if they were cut off from the rest of the US.

I could be wrong, but I think most CA D Party leaders understand that CA is in such horrible financial shape that they realize this is a stoooooopid idea. Not that that's the only reason they see.

From a CA news source:

PLAN FOR CALIFORNIA TO SECEDE FROM UNITED STATES PICKING UP STEAM
By Kristen Sze
Friday, January 27, 2017 08:38PM

SAN FRANCISCO (KGO) -- The movement for California to secede from the United States is picking up steam.

California's secretary of state has given the green light for a group to take the first step in the political process.

The Yes California website put up an online petition that could lead to Calexit.

If you sign on the dotted line that means you want to repeal the part of our state constitution that declares California an inseparable part of the United States. If the petition gets nearly 600,000 signatures in six months, it qualifies for the November 2018 ballot.

And if voters say yes, then in 2019 they vote on the question: "Should California become its own country"?

I chose this source because CA's ballot initiative process is not always understood outside of CA. Even this article is a bit sloppy, in leaving readers with the impression that the petition can be signed online, which it cannot. The article is also incomplete in omitting the practical fact that, while the number of signatures needed is ~600,000, those signatures will be verified, and invalid will be ignored. Typically, to have a good chance of getting that ~600,000 valid signatures, 900K-1M will have to be gathered. Yes, that many pranksters and unregistered people sign petitions, plus people who multi-sign.

So these fools face two hurdles. Many proposed ballot initiatives fail the first hurdle, qualifying for the ballot. And those that do face the second hurdle, the voters. CA voters do lots of stupid things - look at CA's Senators ... approving the high-cost boondoggle bullet-to-the-budget train. CA's voters also approved initiatives forbidding social program $$ being expended on illegals and same-sex marriage, and voted down ending the death penalty while approving a measure streamlining the death penalty appeals process. IMO, IF this bit of lunacy makes the ballot, it will be voted down, resoundingly; I think the "Yes" vote will be under 40%, possibly under 35%. If SF, Hollyweird, and Berserkeley have people that stupid, I think even liberalish Silicon Valley would vote it down, as would San Diego (2nd largest city in CA), plus much of the Central and North Coast, Central Valley, and Sierra and Siskyous areas.