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Former spook John Schindler pronounced on Twitter Thursday night that the CIA is trying to take out President-elect Donald Trump before he is sworn in as president next Friday, January 20. Schindler has long accused Trump of being a Russian stooge.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/01/ex-spook-cia-monitoring-kremlin-buttboi-traitor-trump-intel-taking-traitor-trump/

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Re: Langley ‘Taking Traitor Trump Out Now’ Before He Is Sworn In
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2017, 08:42:09 AM »
Neocons Have Declared War on Donald Trump

After several rather lame false starts, the Neocons have now taken a step which can only be called a declaration of war against Donald Trump.

 Classified documents presented last week to President Obama and President- elect Trump included allegations that Russian operatives claim to have compromising personal and financial information about Mr. Trump, multiple US officials with direct knowledge of the briefings tell CNN. The allegations were presented in a two-page synopsis that was appended to a report on Russian interference in the 2016 election.

The allegations came, in part, from memos compiled by a former British intelligence operative, whose past work US intelligence officials consider credible (…) The two-page synopsis also included allegations that there was a continuing exchange of information during the campaign between Trump surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian government, according to two national security officials.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/01/no_author/neocons-declared-war/
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Re: Langley ‘Taking Traitor Trump Out Now’ Before He Is Sworn In
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2017, 09:23:20 AM »
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Re: Langley ‘Taking Traitor Trump Out Now’ Before He Is Sworn In
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2017, 11:35:34 AM »
Neocons Have Declared War on Donald Trump

After several rather lame false starts, the Neocons have now taken a step which can only be called a declaration of war against Donald Trump.

 Classified documents presented last week to President Obama and President- elect Trump included allegations that Russian operatives claim to have compromising personal and financial information about Mr. Trump, multiple US officials with direct knowledge of the briefings tell CNN. The allegations were presented in a two-page synopsis that was appended to a report on Russian interference in the 2016 election.

The allegations came, in part, from memos compiled by a former British intelligence operative, whose past work US intelligence officials consider credible (…) The two-page synopsis also included allegations that there was a continuing exchange of information during the campaign between Trump surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian government, according to two national security officials.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/01/no_author/neocons-declared-war/

Why do we call them neocons? Let's call a spade a spade here. They are liberals and their party affiliation is irrelevant.
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Re: Langley ‘Taking Traitor Trump Out Now’ Before He Is Sworn In
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2017, 12:53:21 PM »
Why do we call them neocons? Let's call a spade a spade here. They are liberals and their party affiliation is irrelevant.

Because "Neocon" is a conveniently vague bogeyman-epithet.
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Re: Langley ‘Taking Traitor Trump Out Now’ Before He Is Sworn In
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2017, 01:23:24 PM »
Because "Neocon" is a conveniently vague bogeyman-epithet.

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If you are the slightest bit offended by this, then you are a neocon.

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Re: Langley ‘Taking Traitor Trump Out Now’ Before He Is Sworn In
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2017, 10:55:55 AM »
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If you are the slightest bit offended by this, then you are a neocon.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CFT88cMlQo[/youtube]

A video created by the John Birch Society has some sort of Scripture-like authority? ::) I try to be careful and wary of my emotions. Being offended is something I reserve for more significant things.

I waded about half way into the ~16 minute video. Up to that point it never defined what a Neocon believes in practical terms, not in a way that would distinguish Ronald Reagan or Teddy Roosevelt from a Neocon.

Why did I bail out at the half-way point? The fallacies and disingenuity got more than I could tolerate.

Example of a fallacy in the video: Irving Kristol represents all Neocons? Or is THE icon of Neocons? The video failed to give evidence that Kristol truly is representative of Neocons. He may be, but the lack of evidence is sloppy. Or Kristol might be but one of numerous, divergent, voices - and this JBS video sloppiness compounded with ignorance.

"Disingenuity" is a strong word, a synonym of dishonesty. At around 6:00, the video introduces a quote from Kristol about his "having been" a Trotskyite. Kristol was ~20 when Trotsky was assassinated. The quote in the video is one sentence, if that much. No context is given. One would have to hunt down Kristol's book and root through some 500 pages of it to find the quote, all to learn whether Kristol was saying that he still agreed with Trotsky. Or whether he had largely rejected Trotsky's ideas. I don't have the book, have no inclination to buy it, nor to see if the local library stocks it. The old saying that, "A text out of context is a pretext," was never more true than in this video. The Kristol quote does indicate that Kristol had to a large degree abandoned/rejected Trotsky's ideas. His words, "having been", which I emphasized above are past tense. IOW, Kristol used to be a Trotskyite, but at the time he wrote his book no longer was.

But the video, dishonestly, treats the quote as if Kristol were, more or less to the end of his life, a Trotskyite. It's account of Trotsky's and Stalin's relationship is not very accurate, but that's not significant, except as a very minor example of the sloppiness of the video. FWIW, several of my great uncles died at the Soviet Communists - long before I was born. How, exactly, my family never learned, but I have zero sympathy for Communism. In sheer numbers slaughtered, Stalin was the second worst monster in history, IMO, second to Mao.

Then after the brief history of Trotsky's participation in USSR monstrosity, the video introduced a quote from John B. Judis, linking Neoconservatives to Trotsky. While listening to this, I noticed that, while Judis is not anywhere close to a household name, the video said nothing about him. The watcher/listener is given no idea whether Judis was an ally of Neoconservatives, a neutral observer, or an enemy of Neoconservatives. It's another, "text without context." At that point I'd smelled enough rats and ceased watching/listening. But I did one more thing. I found out who John B. Judis is. Among other things, John B. Judis has written for Mother Jones magazine, and is an editor-at-large for the reliably Lib/Prog and disingenuous Talking Points Memo. IOW, saying that John B. Judis is an enemy of Neoconservatives who may be inclined to smear them with falsehood would likely be an understatement.

FWIW, referring to one supposed attribute of Neocons mentioned by the video, I am not and never have been a member of the Democrat Party, nor have I ever been registered as a Democrat.

As for that JBS video,


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Re: Langley ‘Taking Traitor Trump Out Now’ Before He Is Sworn In
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2017, 12:32:16 PM »
A video created by the John Birch Society has some sort of Scripture-like authority? ::) I try to be careful and wary of my emotions. Being offended is something I reserve for more significant things.

I waded about half way into the ~16 minute video. Up to that point it never defined what a Neocon believes in practical terms, not in a way that would distinguish Ronald Reagan or Teddy Roosevelt from a Neocon.

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Oh good grief.  Your progressive nose is up in the air again.  Have you renewed your subscription to National Review lately?

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Definition of neoconservative

    1:  a former liberal espousing political conservatism

    2:  a conservative who advocates the assertive promotion of democracy and U.S. national interest in international affairs including through military means

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Re: Langley ‘Taking Traitor Trump Out Now’ Before He Is Sworn In
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2017, 12:45:44 PM »
Because "Neocon" is a conveniently vague bogeyman-epithet.

Probably true.  They should remove the term "Neocon" and substitute either "RINO" for those who call themselves republican and "flaming libtard turncoat" for the rest, although the latter can be substituted at will for the former.
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Re: Langley ‘Taking Traitor Trump Out Now’ Before He Is Sworn In
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2017, 02:37:21 PM »
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Oh good grief.  Your progressive nose is up in the air again.  Have you renewed your subscription to National Review lately?

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Definition of neoconservative

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Resorting to name-calling so soon?

Your definition #2 would appropriately describe Ronald Reagan and Teddy Roosevelt.
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Re: Langley ‘Taking Traitor Trump Out Now’ Before He Is Sworn In
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2017, 02:40:30 PM »
Probably true.  They should remove the term "Neocon" and substitute either "RINO" for those who call themselves republican and "flaming libtard turncoat" for the rest, although the latter can be substituted at will for the former.

Well, if that political dictionary needs a picture for that entry, I nominate Ahhhhnold. "RINO" is an epithet that gets tossed about a bit casually at times, but nowhere near the degree "Neocon" was, especially a decade or so ago.
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Re: Langley ‘Taking Traitor Trump Out Now’ Before He Is Sworn In
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2017, 03:44:35 PM »
CIA Director John Brennan lectured Donald Trump today on FOX News Sunday “to watch what he says.”

This comes after a series of intelligence leaks made headlines this past month in an attempt to denigrate the president elect.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuaZrUcAsm8[/youtube]

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/01/cia-director-john-brennan-lectures-trump-watch-says-numerous-leaks-intel-community-video/

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Re: Langley ‘Taking Traitor Trump Out Now’ Before He Is Sworn In
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2017, 04:51:58 PM »
Well, if that political dictionary needs a picture for that entry, I nominate Ahhhhnold. "RINO" is an epithet that gets tossed about a bit casually at times, but nowhere near the degree "Neocon" was, especially a decade or so ago.
Agreed.  Schwartzengruber was a TERRIBLE Governor and was more a leftist than the current idiot over there.
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Re: Langley ‘Taking Traitor Trump Out Now’ Before He Is Sworn In
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2017, 07:47:21 PM »
Agreed.  Schwartzengruber was a TERRIBLE Governor and was more a leftist than the current idiot over there.

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Arnuld was a CLASSIC Neocon.  Classic.  Died in the wool neocon.

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Re: Langley ‘Taking Traitor Trump Out Now’ Before He Is Sworn In
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2017, 08:27:12 AM »
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    2:  a conservative who advocates the assertive promotion of democracy and U.S. national interest in international affairs including through military means

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Arnuld was a CLASSIC Neocon.  Classic.  Died in the wool neocon.

Ahhhhnold commented on foreign policy? I missed that. And Ahhhhnold wasn't a former liberal. Other than saying he would balance CA's budget - which he "did", using the same old accounting tricks - he made his liberal views quite clear. FWIW, I voted to recall Gray Davis and for Tom McClintock to replace him.

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Re: Langley ‘Taking Traitor Trump Out Now’ Before He Is Sworn In
« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2017, 09:13:32 PM »
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Oh good grief.  Your progressive nose is up in the air again.  Have you renewed your subscription to National Review lately?

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Actually, it was a pejorative against certain Republicans and slang for "Jew".

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“It is somebody who I think is hawkish on foreign policy and who had a view –maybe the view has changed– for a quite a period of time that we could spread Democracy,” Powers explained when pressed. “I think they were behind the ‘Democracy-spreading’ idea that George W. Bush endorsed, that we could remake the Middle East through American power.”

“If Hillary and Obama buy into the neoconservative thing, then the word is meaningless,” Krauthammer shot back.

“I named neocons as being Bill Kristol, you, Paul Wolfowitz,” Powers replied. “Are you going to tell me that those three people have never considered themselves neocons?”

What we have in common is all of us are Jews, but not all of us were once liberals,” Krauthammer, a former columnist for The (old) New Republic and Walter Mondale speechwriter, replied.

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/04/17/so-what-does-it-means-to-be-a-neocon/

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Re: Langley ‘Taking Traitor Trump Out Now’ Before He Is Sworn In
« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2017, 12:35:59 AM »
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This is VERY disturbing.

Are you advocating for the assassination of President-elect Trump?  Perhaps the Secret Service should be notified?

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Re: Langley ‘Taking Traitor Trump Out Now’ Before He Is Sworn In
« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2017, 04:43:42 AM »
Actually, it was a pejorative against certain Republicans and slang for "Jew".
 
http://hotair.com/archives/2015/04/17/so-what-does-it-means-to-be-a-neocon/

As far as your hyper sensitive, knee jerk, Bircher bullshit response to SVPete - go **** yourself.

I remember mostly Wolfowitz being associated with the term "neoconservative."
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