DUmp 9/11 thread of the day: Exit hole in Pentagon. What caused it?

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Bonobo  (1000+ posts)      Sun Jul-27-08 10:20 AM
Original message
Pentagon Exit Hole
 Advertisements [?]Edited on Sun Jul-27-08 10:48 AM by Bonobo
Just wondering if anyone could explain the "exit hole" in the Pentagon.

Do you think it was from the nose cone of the airplane?

Below is a picture of a hole created by an explosive charge (breaching device)

Of course not!!!

wildbilln864  (1000+ posts)      Sun Jul-27-08 11:59 AM
Response to Original message
1. hell no it's not! nt

hack89 (1000+ posts)      Sun Jul-27-08 02:45 PM
Response to Original message
2. Lets cut to the chase
 do you think that hole was caused by a shaped charge? How did it get there - on a missile?

They attached a shaped charge to a balistic missile? Why would anyone do that, you ask...

Bonobo  (1000+ posts)      Sun Jul-27-08 02:52 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. That is not cutting to the chase.
 The proper order of a scientific enquiry into the issue would be to ask "could that hole have been caused by the nose cone?" If the answer is yes, then that's the end.
On the other hand, if the answer is "no", then you must being to look for alternate theories.

At this point, I definitely CANNOT say that it was an explosive charge. I have no evidence other than some similarities in how they look.

HOWEVER, it seems equally obvious to me that it was not the nose cone of an airplane. That is where I am at.

Let's ask a question that no one can prove about pictures on the internet. You CAN'T PROVE your point of view, therefore, I win.

hack89 (1000+ posts)      Sun Jul-27-08 05:51 PM
Response to Reply #8
23. Except the hole is way too big for a DU missile
 a cruise missile is only 20 inches wide - the penetrator would be even smaller.

Here's a question for you - what is the primary strength member of the fuselage of a 757? Think about that for a second and you will understand why your fixation on the nose cone is misguided. You should even figure out just why the hole reminds you of a heavy metal kinetic energy penetrator.

Never use logic on a troofer.

Bonobo  (1000+ posts)      Sun Jul-27-08 06:23 PM
Response to Reply #23
27. But that perfect hole?
 The plane was coming in at an angle. Why would a perfect circular hole be punched unless we were talking about straight angles?

see...I told you.

[LC EFA]

hack89 (1000+ posts)      Sun Jul-27-08 05:51 PM
Response to Reply #8
23. Except the hole is way too big for a DU missile
 a cruise missile is only 20 inches wide - the penetrator would be even smaller.

Here's a question for you - what is the primary strength member of the fuselage of a 757? Think about that for a second and you will understand why your fixation on the nose cone is misguided. You should even figure out just why the hole reminds you of a heavy metal kinetic energy penetrator.

A Depleted Uranium Missile ? Those exist ?

[Chris_]

hack89 (1000+ posts)      Sun Jul-27-08 05:51 PM
Response to Reply #8
23. Except the hole is way too big for a DU missile
 a cruise missile is only 20 inches wide - the penetrator would be even smaller.

Here's a question for you - what is the primary strength member of the fuselage of a 757? Think about that for a second and you will understand why your fixation on the nose cone is misguided. You should even figure out just why the hole reminds you of a heavy metal kinetic energy penetrator.

A Depleted Uranium Missile ? Those exist ?

Yes, but Teh Rove keeps them all in his basement.

[Airwolf]

"They attached a shaped charge to a balistic missile? Why would anyone do that, you ask..."

Without being to specific about it. The only reason to place a shape charge on a missile is to destroy it or the warhead. When I was in Italy they had us do drills every month to practice placing 15 lb shape charges on the noses of the missiles we were guarding there. If all ofthe charges had to ever go off there would have been a new lake in Northern Italy.