Primitive has a dilemma about being a family shit stain.

[Carl]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028453565

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 01:52 PM

lapislzi (5,500 posts)

Need help with a moral dilemma
Daughter and I are planning to attend next week's march in DC. Because we'll be driving down from NY, this will involve at least an overnight stay. I have cousins in Fairfax, VA whom I've known since childhood. We're very friendly and see each other several times a year. They're lovely, warm, intelligent people, both PhDs.

They're also very rich and very Republican. They were both employed (gov't appointees) in the Bush administration. So, over the years, we've had an unspoken rule that politics are off the table. Nothing good could come of it.

I asked cousin for hotel suggestions for the weekend of the march. I didn't want to impose; didn't want to make anyone uncomfortable. Still, they extended an invitation. Daughter and I were considering it. I was a little uneasy, but I rationalized it by saying "hey, they're smart people, maybe they didn't vote for him. It's possible. They're not extreme; they have a daughter the same age as mine."

Today the e-mail came. "We'll be attending the inauguration, but we'd still love you to stay with us."

How do you burn a 50-year-old bridge? How do you explain that your conscience will not allow you to break bread with people who would support, even celebrate, a racist, a predator, a conscienceless opportunist?

How could I have not known? How could I have been so dumb for so long?

I'm tempted to lie and say we've changed our minds about the march, but that feels cowardly and dishonest. My gut tells me to torch that bridge with a flame thrower...but at what cost?

Mostly I'm stunned, and a little sick.

Help, DU.

So to get this straight.
They knew you were coming to join in a retarded protest march but still happily extended an offer of hospitality.
Once you find out they didn`t vote the way you think they should you want to tell your own family to eff off.

You infantile pieces of dog shit deserve to die,slowly,painfully and utterly alone as you cross into Satans barbecue pit.

Response to lapislzi (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 01:55 PM

Star Member Sherman A1 (18,654 posts)
1. I would not torch the bridge, but I

would make plans other than staying with them.

This is why normal people are revolted by you puddle slugs but we still show kindness.

Response to lapislzi (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 02:07 PM

Star Member jmg257 (7,488 posts)
7. If I had a place to stay, and especially one that was free, i would stick with it.

DC is going to be PACKED next week/weekend. {Good luck finding a place and being able to travel to/from}.

Be a bit selfish, stay there with your relatives, at least as a place to sleep & shower...they will have plenty to worry about with the Inauguration BS (3 days worth maybe).

Your stance & march are important too!

To hell with gratitude,just be a leech.
How perfectly DUmbass.

Response to lapislzi (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 02:08 PM

Star Member HAB911 (838 posts)
9. Unfortunatly you should not burn family bridges

even I did not include family in my go to hell letter

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028441529

Response to HAB911 (Reply #9)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 02:10 PM

nini (13,469 posts)
12. I disagree on the family thing

why should they get a free pass on this crap?

I bet they would be happy not to hear from you.

Response to lapislzi (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 02:08 PM

nini (13,469 posts)
10. Just tell them you have decided on another solution

you don't owe them an explanation.


Then kick them to the curb

Response to lapislzi (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 02:29 PM

Orrex (52,383 posts)
19. Tell them you're not comfortable staying with enablers of racism

You might also mention that their pro-misogyny and pro-sexual-assault voting history doesn't sit well with you.


Ok, don't actually say any of that, but think it really loudly.


However, I would certainly not stay with them, and unless they were important in my daily life for other reasons, I would jettison them entirely.



Good luck in your decision.

Response to lapislzi (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 02:33 PM

Star Member TreasonousBastard (28,097 posts)
22. If they know you are coming for the march and not upset...

why do you have a problem with them? They are probably attending for party loyalty, rather than love of Trump anyway.

I understand that Trump is a far greater danger than Shrub was, but if you accepted each other in those days (and presumably also during Obama's term) why should this inauguration break up your family?

You might consider telling them that you found some super deal in some place you've always wanted to hang out in, but starting the next four years with a lie of your own does not bode well. As someone else said, Trump will be around for a few years, but family you get along with is forever. It is also too rare to throw away over a POS like Trump-- it is giving him power over your life.

Be bigger than that.

Which of course was ignored.

Response to lapislzi (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 02:35 PM

Bonx (1,208 posts)
23. Time to ditch the racist enablers. We're in for a fight here for what's really important.

FREEEEEEEEEE SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!

Response to lapislzi (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 02:55 PM

Warpy (90,869 posts)
27. Yet they're willing to house you when you come to march against him

I don't think this is a bridge that requires burning. Good people get to be wrong, obstinately wrong, and these sound like good people.

When even this hate filled scrunt thinks you are an asshole it should tell you something.

[SVPete]

What kind of DU-member is lapislzi to be asking such questions?! SCROOM! They should be dead to lapislzi!

[FunkyZero]

How do you burn a 50-year-old bridge? How do you explain that your conscience will not allow you to break bread with people who would support, even celebrate, a racist, a predator, a conscienceless opportunist?

You can't explain it because it's not only illogical, it's neurotic behavior.
Only someone as weak as you assholes would consider doing that to FAMILY over something as petty as politics.
I suggest you find God, because contrary to your beliefs, he doesn't hold public office, never has, and won't be on a ballot.
Get your fkin priorities in order, damned degenerates. You absolutely disgust me to the point I feel ill.

[FunkyZero]

I swear, they make me ill

Response to jmg257 (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 03:15 PM

Star Member OrwellwasRight (4,808 posts)
33. I agree with this.

I've had people stay with me to attend protests I didn't attend. Maybe the inaugural attendance is a job requirement. The friendship is about the free place to stay, not necessarily about he identical political views. So what?

Unless what the OP is saying is that s/he feels duty bound to be enemies with these folks because they are going to the inauguration. In which, still stay, eat them out of house and home, spill a little red wine on their cream-colored couch, and leave wet towels somewhere were they won't be found until they have icky mildew smell that is hard to wash out. That's the proper way to make an enemy.

The primitive mind. It's all about memememememememe and you can diediediediedie.

[DUmpDiver]

What bitter, hateful, close-minded idiots.

How about being AN ADULT and accepting that people might have a different opinion on things than you do?

Your relatives sound like adults who are even willing to give you a place to stay and provide hospitality when you come to protest the person they probably voted for.

They should be your role models, not your enemy.

[Karin]

^^ That quote no. 33 that FZ put up..I wondered if the section in red was from the DUmmie, or FZ injecting something funny.  They are the original DUmmie.  Friendship is about a free place to stay?  Then, repay it by trashing the place.  That's what true friendship is all about!

God, they're awful. 

[FunkyZero]

^^ That quote no. 33 that FZ put up..I wondered if the section in red was from the DUmmie, or FZ injecting something funny.  They are the original DUmmie.  Friendship is about a free place to stay?  Then, repay it by trashing the place.  That's what true friendship is all about!

God, they're awful.

awful isn't the word, they are fkin despicable.

[Carl]

Response to lapislzi (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 03:07 PM

lapislzi (5,504 posts)
31. Thank you, friends

With your help, I was able to compose a civil response, respectfully declining based on my own continued anguish over the election. I said I hoped we could enjoy one another's company under better circumstances, another time. And that we would continue to take the high road with one another.

It hurts to go high sometimes, and sometimes it's hard to tell the difference between going high and just plain sanctimony. I'd rather avoid the latter if I can.

You have no idea what a high road is.
You are a juvenile,insane cretin.

Response to lapislzi (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 03:25 PM

Throd 2.0 (27 posts)
35. So you consider them "lovely, warm, intelligent people, both PhDs." and suddenly they're monsters?

Try not to view the world through politics 24/7. Life is much more pleasant that way.

Response to Throd 2.0 (Reply #35)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 04:18 PM

lapislzi (5,504 posts)
42. They're not monsters. Heavens, no.

I'm the problem. I'm angry, I'm still throwing things at the TV, I'm a hot mess. Being around them would be bad for them and for me.

Yet you fuking dare to lecture us about what is best for us. 

Response to lapislzi (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 04:19 PM

Star Member hunter (25,418 posts)
43. You're obviously not related to me.

I grew up in a family where political and religious warfare was relished.

What's the fun of Christmas if you can't argue about how, when, or even if it should be celebrated? The party's not over until crockery is thrown and people are leaving angry or crying, and those couldn't take the heat were drunk and sleeping it off in a corner somewhere.

Let's all do this again next year. Awesome!

Republicans vs. Democrats? That was nothing... Even mild expressions of patriotism could be considered deeply sinful by some factions. (I didn't say the flag salute in school because that kind of thing could get a kid thrown into the fiery pits of hell. This only added to my already heavy aura of weird kid.)

My ancestors didn't come here chasing the American Dream (whatever that is...), they were escaping bad shit in Europe. Living in the Wild West they never had any cause to assimilate. The Civil War was a non-event to them. The only religious beliefs they shared was "not Mormon."

Politically they were all over the place. One of my grandpas was an Army Air Force Officer in World War II, the other a pacifist who'd refused to take up arms, so he was given a choice of prison or working as a welder building and repairing ships for the Merchant Marine. He built ships. The only thing my grandfathers had in common was their love of exotic machines. They could talk enthusiastically and peacefully about ships and airplanes and radar and rockets, but not cars. Never cars. So of course they fought about cars.

So what's the moral question? Tell your cousins that you're going to the protests. If they still invite you to stay, then it's a magnificent opportunity for fireworks.

Response to lapislzi (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 04:24 PM

Star Member LaydeeBug (8,363 posts)
44. Tell them that, respectfully, you'll be a conscientious objector. lol and then stop talking to them

The only voices you hear are in your demented mind.

Response to lapislzi (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 04:37 PM

Star Member panader0 (15,225 posts)
46. I have a few friends that voted for Trump.

They are ignorant of the issues, older ex-construction guys. The feeling I got
around here before the election was the intensity of the dislike (hate) for
Hillary. They weren't so pro Trump as they were anti Hillary. Was misogyny
involved? I'll bet they don't know the word. But they continue to be my friends
as I berate them to their faces for being dumb. My step-son voted for Trump.
I love this guy and his wife and their wonderful children (my grandkids). I would
stay with them anytime.
There were a few posts like this around lately--to hate or scorn those who voted
for the idiot. I'm trying to eliminate hate--that's the GOP's turf. It's difficult at
times, but... well, I try.

Scum,every last one of them.

[jukin]

ZERO Bong!

[fatboy]

Lets see. Republicans are going to set up death camps complete with work benches and ovens and this primitive is going to protest President Donald Trump and stay at a Nazi Camp Guards home for free because it's convenient and the DUmmy has no money and no pride.

Sure.

But then again, DUmmies lie all the time so I think this is all a fabricated yarn designed to provoke some DUer who is the neighbor of TMN living in suburban Maryland offer to pick then up at the bus station in Catonsville and house and feed them for the weekend. That will "save" them from having to bunk with a fictional repig out in a dumpy gated community in Falls Church VA.

All this just so that they can attend some dumb march to protest Trump and smoke some weed.

[sharkhawk]

What's so funny is how many DUmmies think their punishing their relatives by not showing up and mooching.  And how the family will be so upset.

[FunkyZero]

Response to lapislzi (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 03:07 PM

lapislzi (5,504 posts)
31. Thank you, friends

With your help, I was able to compose a civil response, respectfully declining based on my own continued anguish over the election. I said I hoped we could enjoy one another's company under better circumstances, another time. And that we would continue to take the high road with one another.

It hurts to go high sometimes, and sometimes it's hard to tell the difference between going high and just plain sanctimony. I'd rather avoid the latter if I can.

"high road"?
Are you serious?
Let me get this straight, dissing your blood relatives over a political loss... you consider that "going high"?
These people are absolutely mental.
Your dear relatives are laughing their asses off over a glass of wine right now, glad that you aren't coming so they don't have to throw away 2 sets of sheets after you leave.

[Tess Anderson]

Wow, Ginny, better hope somebody doesn't forward this thread to the cousins, doubt they'd appreciate what you said about them here. They should be relieved they don't have to feed your fat ass now.

[Patriot Guard Rider]

ANYBODY, conservative or liberal, that would throw away family ties/relatives over an election is a f*ckin idiot. But, we're talking about primitives, so I repeat myself.

My multi-millionaire very liberal older brother did exactly that. His loss. We have a lot of fun at those and politics is never discussed.

[franksolich]

Oh no.  Gasp.  Try to imagine the Liberty Bell standing on two knitting-needles.

comment 3406:
https://conservativecave.com/home/index.php?topic=81827.3400

[Carl]

Oh no.  Gasp.  Try to imagine the Liberty Bell standing on two knitting-needles.

comment 3406:
https://conservativecave.com/home/index.php?topic=81827.3400

"Peg, she had no knees."

[FunkyZero]

Oh no.  Gasp.  Try to imagine the Liberty Bell standing on two knitting-needles.

comment 3406:
https://conservativecave.com/home/index.php?topic=81827.3400

DAMN DAMN DAMN!  9 more posts!

[Maverick1987]

DAMN DAMN DAMN!  9 more posts!

Well, don't forget about us little guys once you cross over, FZ.   

[franksolich]

DAMN DAMN DAMN!  9 more posts!

But I drew such a good picture I figured nobody would have to go and look.

You know, there's no such thing as a "perfect body;" everybody's got something grotesque or weird or deformed about their anatomy.

Such as franksolich, being born absent ears.  Most people aren't that monstrous, but one gets the idea; there's no such thing as a "perfect body."

But most people, if considerate, try to minimize those deformities, so as to not offend.

Such as the way I wear my hair 1" longer than where the bottoms of the ears would be, if I had ears.  No one then notices I'm absent ears, and has no call to be shocked or startled or feel pity for me.

Surely this woman realizes that with that body precariously perched atop those two needle-thin legs, she looks ridiculous, and so would dress so as to minimize that appearance. 

But no; being a primitive, she purposely choses attire to emphasize, to exaggerate, the deformity.

Geezuz.

[FunkyZero]

DAMN DAMN DAMN!  9 more posts!

That was my Christopher Lloyd voice in case you didn't catch it...

[FunkyZero]

But I drew such a good picture I figured nobody would have to go and look.

You know, there's no such thing as a "perfect body;" everybody's got something grotesque or weird or deformed about their anatomy.

Such as franksolich, being born absent ears.  Most people aren't that monstrous, but one gets the idea; there's no such thing as a "perfect body."

But most people, if considerate, try to minimize those deformities, so as to not offend.

Such as the way I wear my hair 1" longer than where the bottoms of the ears would be, if I had ears.  No one then notices I'm absent ears, and has no call to be shocked or startled or feel pity for me.

Surely this woman realizes that with that body precariously perched atop those two needle-thin legs, she looks ridiculous, and so would dress so as to minimize that appearance. 

But no; being a primitive, she purposely choses attire to emphasize, to exaggerate, the deformity.

Geezuz.

Is that like, a level 9 muffin top?

[SVPete]

DAMN DAMN DAMN!  9 more posts!

Kitty pictures. Think, kitty pictures. Or pictures of server MBs, "Geek Porn".

[SVPete]

I'm partial to PSU guts.

[FunkyZero]

Kitty pictures. Think, kitty pictures. Or pictures of server MBs, "Geek Porn".

How bout my shiny new high tech fandangle rod storage method I put in the barn? It's on the ceiling

[franksolich]

Well, don't forget about us little guys once you cross over, FZ.   

Well now, it wasn't that long ago that our good friend Funks advised me he wanted to get to a thousand posts.  Look where he's at now.

And at the time he advised me, he had fewer posts than you do now.

So there's hope, and it should take a shorter time than one supposes.