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US races to erect fence on Mexican border
« on: August 05, 2008, 11:08:31 PM »
US races to erect controversial steel fence on Mexican border
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Just west of El Paso, near where Spanish conquistador Juan de Onate crossed the Rio Grande from Mexico in 1598, construction crews have completed a steel fence authorities say is a new model for border security.

The five-meter (18-foot) tall fence has a mesh woven so tightly that feet and fingers cannot grab hold, but it still allows people to see through. Steel pylons are set close enough to stop a truck from bursting through, and two meters of reinforced concrete underground deters any tunneling.

The structure is designed to push would-be illegal immigrants and drug smugglers out into the desert where they are more easily caught, said Border Patrol Agent Martin Hernandez.

The US Department of Homeland Security is racing to meet a December 31 deadline to raise 670 miles of steel fences and vehicle barriers along the 3,200 kilometer (2,000 mile) long southern border. About half has been completed, including this six kilometer (four mile) segment at New Mexico's Santa Teresa Port of Entry.

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'bout f'n time.
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Re: US races to erect fence on Mexican border
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2008, 11:14:05 PM »
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Re: US races to erect fence on Mexican border
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2008, 11:15:34 PM »
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Re: US races to erect fence on Mexican border
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2008, 11:18:15 PM »
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Re: US races to erect fence on Mexican border
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2008, 11:22:21 PM »
Looks like the AFP managed to squeeze every pro-illegal-immigrant argument and cliche they could find into the article.  Disgusting.
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Re: US races to erect fence on Mexican border
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2008, 11:24:29 PM »
I'm with Glen Beck, we need to start punishing the Modern Day Slave Owners. The illegals will head home when we cut off their "subsistence'.
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Re: US races to erect fence on Mexican border
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2008, 11:35:15 PM »
Quote from: Thor on August 05, 2008, 11:24:29 PM
I'm with Glen Beck, we need to start punishing the Modern Day Slave Owners. The illegals will head home when we cut off their "subsistence'.

Self deporting has started in places where crackdowns on illegals have started.

That is how you get 12 million illegals out -- make it more uncomfortable to be in their home than squatting here.
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USA races to erect controversial steel fence on Mexican border
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2008, 06:17:58 AM »
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The five-meter (18-foot) tall fence has a mesh woven so tightly that feet and fingers cannot grab hold, but it still allows people to see through. Steel pylons are set close enough to stop a truck from bursting through, and two meters of reinforced concrete underground deters any tunneling.

The structure is designed to push would-be illegal immigrants and drug smugglers out into the desert where they are more easily caught, said Border Patrol Agent Martin Hernandez.

"Will it completely stop them from coming across? Of course not," Hernandez said. "Rest assured, there will eventually be holes in parts of the wall made by people trying to get in. But it buys us valuable time."

The US Department of Homeland Security is racing to meet a December 31 deadline to raise 670 miles of steel fences and vehicle barriers along the 3,200 kilometer (2,000 mile) long southern border. About half has been completed, including this six kilometer (four mile) segment at New Mexico's Santa Teresa Port of Entry.

But DHS Secretary Michael Chertoff faces a flurry of lawsuits by environmentalists and border communities that could stop construction cold.

To meet his deadline, Chertoff is using sweeping authority Congress granted in 2005 to waive 36 federal laws protecting water, air quality, endangered animals, and native American sites.

"The Great Wall of China did not stop the Mongols, and the Berlin Wall didn't stop people escaping to freedom -- why do they think this will be any different?" asked El Paso County Attorney Jose Rodriguez, the point man in one of the lawsuits.

The fence "is a political initiative meant to satisfy conservatives in Congress who have played to fears about all immigrants being terrorists, criminals, and living off the dole," he fumed.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080805132655.d1bc5iw6&show_article=1

 :whatever: Just build the damned thing.
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Re: USA races to erect controversial steel fence on Mexican border
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2008, 06:45:34 AM »
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Re: US races to erect fence on Mexican border
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2008, 10:05:47 AM »
I'll believe it when I can see it.

Department of Homeland Security has already been busted in Arizona once for claiming in Congressional testimony about 75 more miles of fence completed to the double fence specification than they had actually erected.  Grassroots groups videotaped areas (with a GPS in the frame to positively ID the location) where three lines of barbed wire was all that stood between the US and Mexico sides of the border; areas that DHS had claimed it had completed.

The political class powers that be in Washington seem to have all kinds of their own reasons why they don't want the flow of illegal 21st century slaves to be impeded.  I will be very surprised if that fence is EVER completed, if the 21st century slave masters are ever brought before the judgement bar in any kind of significant numbers, and if the President - both current and next - and the idiots in Congress don't continue to conspire to undermine US border security ala Ramos and Campeon-style political imprisonments.
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Re: US races to erect fence on Mexican border
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2008, 10:48:51 AM »
Wouldn't mine fields and warning signs be cheaper and more effective?   :thatsright:
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Re: US races to erect fence on Mexican border
« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2008, 10:54:29 AM »
Quote from: thundley4 on August 06, 2008, 10:48:51 AM
Wouldn't mine fields and warning signs be cheaper and more effective?   :thatsright:

Probably so for the basic materiel outlays, but then you have to factor in all the lawsuits from la Raza, the ACLU, Aztlan, the Mexican consulates, Amnesty International, the Humane Society, Earth First... (etc. etc ad nauseum).

We certainly can't let an effective national border stand, now could we?
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Re: US races to erect fence on Mexican border
« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2008, 11:41:59 AM »
Quote from: thundley4 on August 06, 2008, 10:48:51 AM
Wouldn't mine fields and warning signs be cheaper and more effective?   :thatsright:
Post the signs in English only.   :fuelfire: :innocent:
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Re: USA races to erect controversial steel fence on Mexican border
« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2008, 05:10:06 PM »
Quote from: lug-nut on August 06, 2008, 06:45:34 AM
Chris beat ya to it.
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,11055.0.html
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yes build the damn fence already and when did our education system fall so far that they have to keep giving us the US conversions from SI units
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Re: US races to erect fence on Mexican border
« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2008, 05:12:26 PM »
Quote from: lug-nut on August 06, 2008, 11:41:59 AM
Quote from: thundley4 on August 06, 2008, 10:48:51 AM
Wouldn't mine fields and warning signs be cheaper and more effective?   :thatsright:
Post the signs in English only.   :fuelfire: :innocent:

You need to learn Spanish and quit falling back on English being so important...............well at least the Obama said so
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Re: USA races to erect controversial steel fence on Mexican border
« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2008, 05:14:50 PM »
Aww... :-)

I'm slow on the uptake today.

I'll merge 'em.
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