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Progs say the democrap party can get back on track by doing THIS.
« on: November 27, 2016, 05:37:37 AM »
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What the party needs to do, plain and SIMPLE:
It is so SIMPLE. We lose because we do not have the powerful clear strong populist message that people are begging for. It is always, always, always, always about THE ECONOMY STUPID!

Want to win? Do this:

* Get every corporate Democrat the hell out of the party and be the party of the working and middle classes in grassroots America.
* SHOW UP in all 50 states and all AREAS of them.
* Send the money to state and local party entities not to consultants and pollsters.
* Clean the ENTIRE house at the DNC and put in populist progressives.
* LISTEN to rural and small town folks and UNDERSTAND THEM! They are HURTING and want to be listened to and they want an economic future. We CAN create jobs there. SAY IT AND DO IT!
* Respect the rural culture as well as the urban culture.
* Have a VERY LOUD STRONG and crystal clear compelling and exciting populist economic message that is all about KILLING failed trickle down economics, KILLING rotten trade deals, and KILLING the oligarchy's control of the economy and the government. (In politics you need an overarching narrative, values message, and VILLAIN TO ATTACK. This is the message that gives us what we need.
* Tell older folks it will be a cold day in hell before we privatize social security and medicare.
* Say loud and clear that America is Of, By, and For ALL THE PEOPLE and not just the rich, and our mission in life is to give the country back to ALL the people again. "MAKE AMERICA EVERYONE'S AGAIN!!"
* Unite urban and rural folks around the populist economics message bridging social justice with economic justice. People of all races and genders can not advance without economic justice. BRIDGE THE TWO!

Do these things, and we will come back. Do the same old same old SHIT that FAILS, and we will not. Simple as that.

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1. Change the electoral college.

Find ways to fight an unfair media.
Be wary of hackers.
Come together against unfair equivalencies!

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Star Member LonePirate (5,212 posts)
2. What jobs are we going to create in rural areas? How do you propose to do this?

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NoGoodNamesLeft (1,213 posts)
16. It could have been clean energy, but Trump is going to gut that

and try to re-start coal, push for more pipelines and frack wherever he can. Good thing those Greens didn't vote for Clinton since she was supposedly just as bad as or worse than Trump.

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Star Member RKP5637 (42,467 posts)
3. Sure makes sense to me. As has been said forever, people vote with their wallets/pocketbooks

for whomever they think will best bring them jobs and money. It's been the same forever and forever and forever. All the rest is secondary.

In this area all we heard from Hillary were the endless ads about his outrageous comments, really nothing else, the same ad over and over with the kids.

I was telling people here, this is not going to work, and it didn't. Meanwhile, Trump was hammering on jobs, jobs, jobs and people were listening, and they all voted for him, because of jobs, jobs, jobs. Her ad about his outrageous comments was played so much it got to be nauseating. It was a WTF to me and many people in this area.

Be careful DUmmie, speaking the truth will get you banned.

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Star Member Hoyt (27,954 posts)
9. Good points on jobs, but Trump hammered more on hatred, and it worked.

Clinton was honest on jobs, like telling coal miners their coal jobs were toast and she was going to help them. That was the right thing to do.

Yes Hoyt, because telling coal miners they're out of a job and will have to retrain from a $40 per hour job to a non-existent job that pays $9.50 per hour is such a winner. Keep it up please. Shout that from the rooftops, PLEASE!

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Star Member emulatorloo (30,150 posts)
12. Clinton talked jobs, economy, income inequality, media not interested in showing that.

You never saw a full Clinton speech because they rarely showed one.

Meanwhile they broadcast every word of Trump's, including the lies he told about bringing back manufacturing.

Without bothering to fact check him (clothes made in China, buildings built with Chinese steel)

No one showed a full Clinton speech because they rarely lasted more than 15 minutes, in a half-filled high school gym. Pickles Von Cankles talked GENERALLY, not SPECIFICALLY, about everything..plausible deniability dontchaknow.

But you people continue with your name calling, tripling down on the reasons you lost, then complain about your upcoming massive losses in '18 and '20 due to the racist, misogynist, islamophobic, xenophobic, redneck, bible thumping gun humpers who couldn't see the errors of their ways and who voted for the evil repugs, again.

Yes, that's a winning strategy.

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Because only the left goes searching for that which is not there in a desperate attempt to be offended about something.

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Re: Progs say the democrap party can get back on track by doing THIS.
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2016, 05:44:07 AM »
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1. Change the electoral college.

Heh....   :bawl:  :bawl:  :bawl:  :bawl:  :bawl:  :bird: 

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Without bothering to fact check him (clothes made in China, buildings built with Chinese steel)

All chased away by you. How's that for a fact check, shitferbrains?
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Re: Progs say the democrap party can get back on track by doing THIS.
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2016, 06:06:56 AM »
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LISTEN to rural and small town folks and UNDERSTAND THEM! They are HURTING and want to be listened to and they want an economic future. We CAN create jobs there. SAY IT AND DO IT!

Good luck with that after 50 years of treating them as the urbans ATM while laughing at them/us as stupid and unwashed.
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Re: Progs say the democrap party can get back on track by doing THIS.
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2016, 08:03:14 AM »

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* Get every corporate Democrat the hell out of the party and be the party of the working and middle classes in grassroots America.

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Re: Progs say the democrap party can get back on track by doing THIS.
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2016, 08:22:55 AM »
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Want to win? Do this:

* Get every corporate Democrat the hell out of the party and be the party of the working and middle classes in grassroots America.

Ditch half your party's leadership and a large % of members? Good thinking! Go for it!

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* SHOW UP in all 50 states and all AREAS of them.

Ummmm, I'm pretty sure the D Party is in every state, with headquarters in most counties or regions of each state.

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* Send the money to state and local party entities not to consultants and pollsters.

Get rid of key strategic and tactical people? Good thinking! Go for it!

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* Clean the ENTIRE house at the DNC and put in populist progressives.

Ditch half your party's leadership? Good thinking! Go for it!

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* LISTEN to rural and small town folks and UNDERSTAND THEM! They are HURTING and want to be listened to and they want an economic future. We CAN create jobs there. SAY IT AND DO IT!

Would that be the same "rural and small town folks" whose lands you've been stealing and who your Enviro-folk have been raping?

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* Respect the rural culture as well as the urban culture.

Well, ceasing to call them racists, rednecks, and uneducated would be a tiny start, but I don't think you all could withstand the blow to your worldview and the culture shock.

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* ... (In politics you need an overarching narrative, values message, and VILLAIN TO ATTACK. (sic) ...

It may be a bit difficult to shift the attention of your current long-term "narrative"-"VILLAINs" to new villains and narratives. They might recognize the tactic and fail to see that it's in their "economic best interest".

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* Tell older folks it will be a cold day in hell before we privatize social security and medicare.

That Ponzi-Scheme lock-box full of government IOUs it gets to keep you. And that crappy "healthcare" program that doctors are fleeing, you get to keep that, too.

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* Say loud and clear that America is Of, By, and For ALL THE PEOPLE and not just the rich, and our mission in life is to give the country back to ALL the people again. "MAKE AMERICA EVERYONE'S AGAIN!!"

And Progs are going to do this by demonizing the most productive segment of US citizenry and force on them a choice between being raped economically or fleeing the US? Brilliant!

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* Unite urban and rural folks around the populist economics message bridging social justice with economic justice. People of all races and genders can not advance without economic justice. BRIDGE THE TWO!

I think most rural and small town folk understand that "social justice" and "economic justice" means government-stealing from productive people and giving the stolen wealth to people who refuse to be productive or otherwise contribute to society. They will unite - those rural and small town folk - to get you and your ideas out of power and out of their lives!
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Re: Progs say the democrap party can get back on track by doing THIS.
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2016, 12:19:06 AM »
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* LISTEN to rural and small town folks and UNDERSTAND THEM! They are HURTING and want to be listened to and they want an economic future. We CAN create jobs there. SAY IT AND DO IT!
* Respect the rural culture as well as the urban culture.
And the way to do this is to tell them that their wives and young daughters have to put up with perverts in their bathrooms and locker rooms, because EQUALITY!!!!111eleventeen!!1!

That should do it, DUmmies.  That'll bring those rural votes right back.
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