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[Chris_]

What do you want to talk about Jinx?
Fourier Series?
Cepstral Analysis?
Kepplerian Orbital Physics?
Predictive/Adaptive filtering?
Groups, Rings and Fields?
Toeplitz matrix inversion techniques?

No category theory?

No Relational Theory?

[EastFacingNorth]

What do you want to talk about Jinx?
Fourier Series?
Cepstral Analysis?
Kepplerian Orbital Physics?
Predictive/Adaptive filtering?
Groups, Rings and Fields?
Toeplitz matrix inversion techniques?

No category theory?

No Relational Theory?

Are we talking physics and philosophy, or computer science?  I know a wee bit about the former, very little about the latter.

Or do you mean relations as per algebra?  I've never heard the term "relational theory" in that context but then again, I'm still a lowly undergrad. 

Or if you were referring directly to my query about category theory, I guess you'd mean functors and the like?

[Chris_]

What do you want to talk about Jinx?
Fourier Series?
Cepstral Analysis?
Kepplerian Orbital Physics?
Predictive/Adaptive filtering?
Groups, Rings and Fields?
Toeplitz matrix inversion techniques?

No category theory?

No Relational Theory?

Are we talking physics and philosophy, or computer science?  I know a wee bit about the former, very little about the latter.

Or do you mean relations as per algebra?  I've never heard the term "relational theory" in that context but then again, I'm still a lowly undergrad. 

Or if you were referring directly to my query about category theory, I guess you'd mean functors and the like?

The latter -- the Relational Model as defined by E.F. Codd and given substance by Chris Date. 

Codd wrote his original paper in 1968 and it was one of the most influential papers on computing ever written.  Date's monthly column in Database Programming and Design through the 80's defined how the model works.  All these years later I am still working on relvars TweedleDee and TweeedleDum.

And don't get me started on 2VL vs. 3VL.

I find it sad many/most in my profession don't understand any of the theory behind their profession (perhaps, more accurately, avocation).

[debk]

Mia....I managed to pass Statistics....only because I never missed class, not because I knew anything. My prof told me he felt sorry for me, it was a required course for my major, but I would probably never use it and by giving me a D, I didn't have to retake it.

Though now days, since you can use programmable calculators, you will do fine.....my daugther aced all her college math classes...she will admit it was because of her calculator.

When I was in school....we had to use an abacus.   

(not really....but we did have to use a slide rule...which is an invention of the devil! )

[DumbAss Tanker]

Anyone really good at algebra?

Whoops! I wandered into a smart persons thread.

My bad 

I'm just looking for who I can hit up for help next month when I start College Algebra again. 

Aced college algebra twice, sweetie. I'm rusty, but usually can pick it up quick again. I'll do what I can.

I think as long as I actually go to class and do the homework I'll be okay.  That's what was lacking the last time I took it many years ago.   

That was the essence of my problem with integral calculus.

 

[BlueStateSaint]

In calculus, I was calclueless.

[Miss Mia]

Mia....I managed to pass Statistics....only because I never missed class, not because I knew anything. My prof told me he felt sorry for me, it was a required course for my major, but I would probably never use it and by giving me a D, I didn't have to retake it.

Though now days, since you can use programmable calculators, you will do fine.....my daugther aced all her college math classes...she will admit it was because of her calculator.

When I was in school....we had to use an abacus.   

(not really....but we did have to use a slide rule...which is an invention of the devil! )

Eventually down the road I have to take two statistics courses.    Gotta pass the damned college algebra first!

[Miss Mia]

What's a "Rhinocerus"?

Click where it says "bloodninja" It's the 5th "story" down.

[debk]

Mia....I managed to pass Statistics....only because I never missed class, not because I knew anything. My prof told me he felt sorry for me, it was a required course for my major, but I would probably never use it and by giving me a D, I didn't have to retake it.

Though now days, since you can use programmable calculators, you will do fine.....my daugther aced all her college math classes...she will admit it was because of her calculator.

When I was in school....we had to use an abacus.   

(not really....but we did have to use a slide rule...which is an invention of the devil! )

Eventually down the road I have to take two statistics courses.    Gotta pass the damned college algebra first!

Mia....my daughter was so/so in math in high school. In college, she had to take algebra, 2 statistics, calculus, and she also took 2 accounting classes....she aced them all. I was so worried when she had to do the statistics....I was soooo proud of her.

Get a really good calculator. I'm sure someone here can recommend one. I know her's was around a $120 several years ago when she got it. It got her through all her math classes in college and her radiology tech program.

She had study groups with a couple of hers, and I know she went to them alot (she was living at home until she was about 24)....especially before tests or exams.

You will do great!!!!

[EastFacingNorth]

Mia....I managed to pass Statistics....only because I never missed class, not because I knew anything. My prof told me he felt sorry for me, it was a required course for my major, but I would probably never use it and by giving me a D, I didn't have to retake it.

Though now days, since you can use programmable calculators, you will do fine.....my daugther aced all her college math classes...she will admit it was because of her calculator.

When I was in school....we had to use an abacus.   

(not really....but we did have to use a slide rule...which is an invention of the devil! )

Eventually down the road I have to take two statistics courses.    Gotta pass the damned college algebra first!

Mia....my daughter was so/so in math in high school. In college, she had to take algebra, 2 statistics, calculus, and she also took 2 accounting classes....she aced them all. I was so worried when she had to do the statistics....I was soooo proud of her.

Get a really good calculator. I'm sure someone here can recommend one. I know her's was around a $120 several years ago when she got it. It got her through all her math classes in college and her radiology tech program.

She had study groups with a couple of hers, and I know she went to them alot (she was living at home until she was about 24)....especially before tests or exams.

If you can afford it and if your courses allow it, you'll want a TI-89 calculator.  If/when you take calculus, you'll be glad to have it.

For college algebra, however, all you'll need (and all you'll likely be allowed to use, if calculators are permitted at all) is a standard scientific calculator.  You'll probably spend around $20 on one of those, although like anything else, you might find a good deal somewhere.  Just make sure it's a scientific calculator - the standard type doesn't have all the functions that you'll need, nor do they follow order of operations.
You will do great!!!!

[Miss Mia]

Mia....I managed to pass Statistics....only because I never missed class, not because I knew anything. My prof told me he felt sorry for me, it was a required course for my major, but I would probably never use it and by giving me a D, I didn't have to retake it.

Though now days, since you can use programmable calculators, you will do fine.....my daugther aced all her college math classes...she will admit it was because of her calculator.

When I was in school....we had to use an abacus.   

(not really....but we did have to use a slide rule...which is an invention of the devil! )

Eventually down the road I have to take two statistics courses.    Gotta pass the damned college algebra first!

Mia....my daughter was so/so in math in high school. In college, she had to take algebra, 2 statistics, calculus, and she also took 2 accounting classes....she aced them all. I was so worried when she had to do the statistics....I was soooo proud of her.

Get a really good calculator. I'm sure someone here can recommend one. I know her's was around a $120 several years ago when she got it. It got her through all her math classes in college and her radiology tech program.

She had study groups with a couple of hers, and I know she went to them alot (she was living at home until she was about 24)....especially before tests or exams.

If you can afford it and if your courses allow it, you'll want a TI-89 calculator.  If/when you take calculus, you'll be glad to have it.

For college algebra, however, all you'll need (and all you'll likely be allowed to use, if calculators are permitted at all) is a standard scientific calculator.  You'll probably spend around $20 on one of those, although like anything else, you might find a good deal somewhere.  Just make sure it's a scientific calculator - the standard type doesn't have all the functions that you'll need, nor do they follow order of operations.
You will do great!!!!

I think I still have a fancy calculator around the house somewhere. 

At work I use a printing calculator, I don't think that one will cut it.  LOL

[Zeus]

Identify yourselves, nerds.     No, seriously,  please.

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[debk]

I was surprised at the calculator she was allowed to use. It had one of those 2x1.5" or so screens on it.

I know they are much less now....kind of like everything else. The calculator she had was the one required for the course.

Wonder if the prof got a cut from the company?

[Thor]

Hell, I remember when the TI-51 was the "cat's meow" when it came out........ oh shit, I've dated myself !!!

[Chris_]

My graphing calculator is a TI-83, and I know it's not new.

[Chris_]

Hell, I remember when the TI-51 was the "cat's meow" when it came out........ oh shit, I've dated myself !!!

If you can't program it with Hollerith cards then it is newfangled.

But you get bonus points if it can do paper tape output.

[debk]

When I started real estate in early '97, someone gave me a new calculator that was specifically geared to real estate. It supposedly figures out mortgage payments over 30 years and multitudes of other stuff.

I couldn't understand the directions. 

Wonder where I put that thing?

[DumbAss Tanker]

Whippersnappers, the Post Versalog was the calculating device of choice when I was a freshman.  How many of you know what that was?

 

[EastFacingNorth]

Whippersnappers, the Post Versalog was the calculating device of choice when I was a freshman.  How many of you know what that was?

 

A slide rule - I only know because my Uncle John gave me his.  He knows I love geek paraphanalia.   

[DumbAss Tanker]

Whippersnappers, the Post Versalog was the calculating device of choice when I was a freshman.  How many of you know what that was?

 

A slide rule - I only know because my Uncle John gave me his.  He knows I love geek paraphanalia.   

Right you are, lad!  Calculators had swept the field by the time I graduated, but very few people had the machines and they were expensive as Hell when I started college.

[Miss Mia]

My graphing calculator is a TI-83, and I know it's not new.

I think that's the one I have somewhere.  I'll probably end up having to buy a new one. 

[debk]

Whippersnappers, the Post Versalog was the calculating device of choice when I was a freshman.  How many of you know what that was?

 

That's what I had too......device of the devil....I hated that thing!!!! And it was the only choice all 4 years I was in college too....

[DumbAss Tanker]

Whippersnappers, the Post Versalog was the calculating device of choice when I was a freshman.  How many of you know what that was?

 

That's what I had too......device of the devil....I hated that thing!!!! And it was the only choice all 4 years I was in college too....

Fortunately (in a sense) my lack of dedication to classroom attendance eventually meant that I never had to learn to use it to its full capabilities, and I finished up with a BA with a double major in Crim and Soc, instead of a BS in Engineering. 

[debk]

Whippersnappers, the Post Versalog was the calculating device of choice when I was a freshman.  How many of you know what that was?

 

That's what I had too......device of the devil....I hated that thing!!!! And it was the only choice all 4 years I was in college too....

Fortunately (in a sense) my lack of dedication to classroom attendance eventually meant that I never had to learn to use it to its full capabilities, and I finished up with a BA with a double major in Crim and Soc, instead of a BS in Engineering. 

And why I ended up with a BA with a major in Sociology with a concentration in Criminal Justice, minors in Psych and Anthropology instead of a BS in Medical Technology.

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[DumbAss Tanker]

Whippersnappers, the Post Versalog was the calculating device of choice when I was a freshman.  How many of you know what that was?

 

That's what I had too......device of the devil....I hated that thing!!!! And it was the only choice all 4 years I was in college too....

Fortunately (in a sense) my lack of dedication to classroom attendance eventually meant that I never had to learn to use it to its full capabilities, and I finished up with a BA with a double major in Crim and Soc, instead of a BS in Engineering. 

And why I ended up with a BA with a major in Sociology with a concentration in Criminal Justice, minors in Psych and Anthropology instead of a BS in Medical Technology.

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I learned my lesson after the first two years, but I didn't want to do the Walk of Shame to go back and re-do, plus there would've been a massive money issue.  Got the BA at the non-Engineering State U in my home town, then went Army enlisted combat arms for four years, and went to Law School after that (made cum laude there, by the skin of my teeth but it still counts).  So overall everything worked out pretty well in the long run.  In fact, despite the occasional temporary reversal of fortune, I've found everything has always ultimately worked out pretty well as long as I kept my wits about me and looked ahead instead of behind.