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Zogby Poll on August 5: McCain up 42-41 (!)
« on: August 05, 2008, 11:07:30 AM »

Zogby!?!  zogby is the biggest democrat toady in all of polling.  if zogby has The BarackStar! trailing, it is
extremely grave news  . . . .


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New poll shows Obama losing support among young, women

Barack Obama has lost ground among some of his strongest bases of support, including young people, women, Democrats and independents, according to a new ATV/Zogby poll.

The Illinois Democrat has also lost some support among African-Americans and Hispanics, where his lead over Republican John McCain has shrunk, and among Catholics, where he's lost his lead.

The net result, pollster John Zogby found, is a race that's neck and neck, with McCain supported by 42 percent; Obama by 41 percent; Libertarian Bob Barr by 2 percent; and independent Ralph Nader by 2 percent. Another 13 percent supported other candidates or were undedcided.

Zogby called the results a "notable turnaround" from a July survey he did that showed Obama leading by 46-36.

"McCain made signifciant gains at Obama's expense among some of what had been Obama's strongest demographic groups," Zogby said.

His findings:

-Among voters aged 18-29, Obama lost 16 percent and McCain gained 20. Obama still leads, 49-38;\
-Among women, McCain gained 10 percentage points. Obama now leads 43-38;\
-Among independents, Obama lost an 11 point lead. They're now tied;
-Among Democrats, Obama's support dropped from 83 percent to 74 percent;
-Among Catholics, Obama lost the 11 point lead he had in July and now trails McCain by 15.

Zogby said Obama also lost ground among minorities.


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Re: Zogby Poll on August 5: McCain up 42-41 (!)
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2008, 12:00:38 PM »
Wonder if Hillary is planning a coup for Denver, or working on her 2012 plan?
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Re: Zogby Poll on August 5: McCain up 42-41 (!)
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2008, 12:08:43 PM »
Even the LibTards are discovering what an empty suit he is. A Lib dominated board I post on has been lacking in support for Barry the last few weeks and enthusiasm for defending him has been on the wane.  :-)
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Re: Zogby Poll on August 5: McCain up 42-41 (!)
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2008, 12:09:53 PM »
ouch !

kinda runs along with the last one (Rassmussin ?) on the areas BHO is losing ground with.

My fellow Americans, there is nothing audacious about hope. Hope is what makes people buy lottery tickets instead of paying the bills. Hope is for the old gals feeding the slots in Atlantic City. It destroys the inner-city kid who quits school because he hopes he'll be a world-famous recording artist.

What's the difference between Sarah Palin and Barack Obama?

One is a well turned-out, good-looking, and let's be honest, pretty sexy piece of eye-candy.

The other kills her own food.

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Re: Zogby Poll on August 5: McCain up 42-41 (!)
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2008, 12:11:00 PM »
Wonder if Hillary is planning a coup for Denver, or working on her 2012 plan?



funny you say that.  seems Bubba was being interviewed and was asked if BHO was ready to be president and he didn't say "yes".
My fellow Americans, there is nothing audacious about hope. Hope is what makes people buy lottery tickets instead of paying the bills. Hope is for the old gals feeding the slots in Atlantic City. It destroys the inner-city kid who quits school because he hopes he'll be a world-famous recording artist.

What's the difference between Sarah Palin and Barack Obama?

One is a well turned-out, good-looking, and let's be honest, pretty sexy piece of eye-candy.

The other kills her own food.

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Re: Zogby Poll on August 5: McCain up 42-41 (!)
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2008, 12:21:04 PM »
Wonder if Hillary is planning a coup for Denver, or working on her 2012 plan?

You can bet your sweet ass that Hillary Frau ReichsChancellor für das leben is planning her own variation of the 'Munich Putsch'  at the end of the month.

After all, she's ain't done 'til the fat chick belts out Wagner ditties.
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Re: Zogby Poll on August 5: McCain up 42-41 (!)
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2008, 12:34:13 PM »

her constant mantra during the latter stages of the primaries that obama is unelectable sounds pretty damn prophetic right about now.


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Re: Zogby Poll on August 5: McCain up 42-41 (!)
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2008, 12:36:55 PM »
ouch !

kinda runs along with the last one (Rassmussin ?) on the areas BHO is losing ground with.



Rasmussen is almost always accurate (as polls go anyway).  zogby is so tilted toward the dems that he may as well be a paid arm of the DNC.  when both of those polls agree, and agree than the democrat is losing . . . well.  that's just not good news for the democrat in question.

that whole germany thing must have tripped something in the american subconscious;  he's been falling ever since he got back.


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Re: Zogby Poll on August 5: McCain up 42-41 (!)
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2008, 01:24:49 PM »
ouch !

kinda runs along with the last one (Rassmussin ?) on the areas BHO is losing ground with.



Rasmussen is almost always accurate (as polls go anyway).  zogby is so tilted toward the dems that he may as well be a paid arm of the DNC.  when both of those polls agree, and agree than the democrat is losing . . . well.  that's just not good news for the democrat in question.

that whole germany thing must have tripped something in the american subconscious;  he's been falling ever since he got back.





the kid has been particularly gaffe prone the last few weeks.

you see the demographics he's faltering in, they are all ones that take promises seriously and he's been backing off those like crazy.  then the mush middlers are getting disenchanted over his waffling.  McC has done a good job pointing those out (it doesn't hurt that the fringe populated MSM HATE that kind of thing even when they know WHY he's doing it).

check it out...

the last three go rounds the lefty candidate has gone left for the primaries, then right for the general.  but they've gone further left before turning back right.  now CLinton did it too but he was the least farther to the left of the lot.  Bubba barely won back the middle and won, Gore went further than Bubba and lost, Kerry further still, lost worse.  And how far left did BHO go ?

Do the math
My fellow Americans, there is nothing audacious about hope. Hope is what makes people buy lottery tickets instead of paying the bills. Hope is for the old gals feeding the slots in Atlantic City. It destroys the inner-city kid who quits school because he hopes he'll be a world-famous recording artist.

What's the difference between Sarah Palin and Barack Obama?

One is a well turned-out, good-looking, and let's be honest, pretty sexy piece of eye-candy.

The other kills her own food.

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Re: Zogby Poll on August 5: McCain up 42-41 (!)
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2008, 01:41:57 PM »
Wonder if Hillary is planning a coup for Denver, or working on her 2012 plan?

You can bet your sweet ass that Hillary Frau ReichsChancellor für das leben is planning her own variation of the 'Munich Putsch'  at the end of the month.

After all, she's ain't done 'til the fat chick belts out Wagner ditties.

you know, the far left is getting pissed at him for his flip-flips, er, ah, his "shifts to the center" . . . and he just isn't opening any space between himself and mccain . . . I always thought it was a little daft to think that hillary would derail the nomination at the convention, but I can see how some of the dems would be getting nervous about this neophyte that seems to be making the same sort of mistake over and over.  not to mention that he seems to be completely buying into his own press clippings.


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Re: Zogby Poll on August 5: McCain up 42-41 (!)
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2008, 02:26:06 PM »
Wonder if Hillary is planning a coup for Denver, or working on her 2012 plan?

You can bet your sweet ass that Hillary Frau ReichsChancellor für das leben is planning her own variation of the 'Munich Putsch'  at the end of the month.

After all, she's ain't done 'til the fat chick belts out Wagner ditties.

you know, the far left is getting pissed at him for his flip-flips, er, ah, his "shifts to the center" . . . and he just isn't opening any space between himself and mccain . . . I always thought it was a little daft to think that hillary would derail the nomination at the convention, but I can see how some of the dems would be getting nervous about this neophyte that seems to be making the same sort of mistake over and over.  not to mention that he seems to be completely buying into his own press clippings.





If the supers are not sweating depleated uranium bullets by now, I'll eat my hat.  And BHO has made it very celar that he'll be calling the shots with the campaign so they can't even make him fix it.

Keep in mind that every dem up for re-election is a super and they've been nervous about coattails for a year or more.
My fellow Americans, there is nothing audacious about hope. Hope is what makes people buy lottery tickets instead of paying the bills. Hope is for the old gals feeding the slots in Atlantic City. It destroys the inner-city kid who quits school because he hopes he'll be a world-famous recording artist.

What's the difference between Sarah Palin and Barack Obama?

One is a well turned-out, good-looking, and let's be honest, pretty sexy piece of eye-candy.

The other kills her own food.

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Re: Zogby Poll on August 5: McCain up 42-41 (!)
« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2008, 01:09:22 PM »

Among voters aged 18-29, Obama lost 16 percent and McCain gained 20.

if this is true, of course, The BarackStar! is

are you kidding me?!?!  the imminently expected but never arriving, terrifically fickle "youth
vote" is abandoning The BarackStar?! 

this points out the fundamental problem with basically being a fad in the first place;  there's
always a newer, better fad just around the corner.




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Re: Zogby Poll on August 5: McCain up 42-41 (!)
« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2008, 01:35:16 PM »
I somewhere that AP/Ipsos managed to get BHO back up 6.
My fellow Americans, there is nothing audacious about hope. Hope is what makes people buy lottery tickets instead of paying the bills. Hope is for the old gals feeding the slots in Atlantic City. It destroys the inner-city kid who quits school because he hopes he'll be a world-famous recording artist.

What's the difference between Sarah Palin and Barack Obama?

One is a well turned-out, good-looking, and let's be honest, pretty sexy piece of eye-candy.

The other kills her own food.

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Re: Zogby Poll on August 5: McCain up 42-41 (!)
« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2008, 01:38:39 PM »
I somewhere that AP/Ipsos managed to get BHO back up 6.

Yeah, only news we heard on the radio yesterday was the AP/Ipsos poll.  No mention of the Zogby, Rasmussen, or Pew numbers.  It was all that 6 point lead. :whatever:
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Re: Zogby Poll on August 5: McCain up 42-41 (!)
« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2008, 01:51:52 PM »
I somewhere that AP/Ipsos managed to get BHO back up 6.

look at some of the internals on the AP poll . . .

. . . Obama leads by 55 points among blacks . . .


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Re: Zogby Poll on August 5: McCain up 42-41 (!)
« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2008, 03:07:32 PM »
I somewhere that AP/Ipsos managed to get BHO back up 6.

look at some of the internals on the AP poll . . .

. . . Obama leads by 55 points among blacks . . .






Only 55% ?

Do they also have NASCAR Dads going BHO by that margin ?
My fellow Americans, there is nothing audacious about hope. Hope is what makes people buy lottery tickets instead of paying the bills. Hope is for the old gals feeding the slots in Atlantic City. It destroys the inner-city kid who quits school because he hopes he'll be a world-famous recording artist.

What's the difference between Sarah Palin and Barack Obama?

One is a well turned-out, good-looking, and let's be honest, pretty sexy piece of eye-candy.

The other kills her own food.

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Re: Zogby Poll on August 5: McCain up 42-41 (!)
« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2008, 03:19:17 PM »
I somewhere that AP/Ipsos managed to get BHO back up 6.

look at some of the internals on the AP poll . . .

. . . Obama leads by 55 points among blacks . . .



Only 55% ?

Do they also have NASCAR Dads going BHO by that margin ?

I inadvertently chopped that sentence off in such a way that it totally skewed it's actual meaning . . . . the
entire sentence is "Obama leads . . . by 55 points among blacks, Hispanics and other minorities . . . ", which
just isn't the same thing.