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They already have the laptop in custody. I am pretty sure  She won't roll over on this one. If the reports are correct and it's 650,000 e-mails... Uma had the entire server backed up on her personal device.

Think about that one for a moment.

All the e-mails. In their original form.

I would not be surprised to learn of Uma's suicide in the coming weeks.

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Best Move: Abedin Should Give FBI Permission to Search Her Email Immediately.

Apparently, the FBI has no warrant to search through Abedin's emails that they found on Weiner's computer. They're waiting for one (which they might not even get).

Two things should be done immediately:

1. Abedin should give the FBI permission to search through her emails, with a legal agreement that they won't disclose any of the content that is not found to be criminal. (ie-For the last 30 years, the Republican method of attacking the Clintons is to get permission to dig through their stuff in search of something criminal, but if you find nothing criminal you just keep digging until you find something EMBARRASSING.) This would show that Camp Clinton has nothing to hide, and nothing to fear.

2. Lynch should order Comey to release more details, and hold a press conference about what he does and DOES NOT know. And what he did and didn't know when he sent out the letter. Under questioning, he will be forced to admit that he has not 're-opened' the Clinton investigation, and does not have any reason to suspect that there is anything criminal in nature on Abedin's computer.

Oh- yes. Please make it worse and have the head of O'Barry's Justice Department deny a warrant. That would bring down the entire government.

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1. The only question to ask is this: How do emails APPEAR to be anything, when you don't have legal authority to look at them?

Once again. The warrant was to search Wiener's computer for evidence in his pedo case. The FBI finds evidence of another crime. THEY HAVE TO seek a new warrant to use that in an investigation. Oh, don't worry, my little DUmpmonkiez, a very clever FBI guy already knows whats on them. Now they just need a warrant to use it.

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5. Exactly right. They have no probable cause to look into her email.

And, under normal circumstances, no judge would give them a warrant to look. But if they don't get one, the GOP can continue to spin about what MIGHT be in there. That political hit method is almost as 'good' as the method of hoping that somebody pleads the 5th, and then you can call them up before your committee every other day and accuse them of things, and listen to them plead the 5th in response. It's the best political theatre you can get.

If in investigation of a crime you find evidence of a new unrelated crime you can use that evidence to get a warrant to use that in a new investigation.

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25. The certainly have a warrant to look at everything on the device

But it's a warrant to look for evidence in another investigation, the one that involves her husband sexting a 15 year old across state lines.

This is pretty common for an investigation with a warrant for one thing to uncover evidence of a totally different crime. What has to happen is a new warrant for evidence related to that investigation must be issued so they can dig deeper into what they found.

This almost certainly will be given by a judge because they found this new evidence in the course of executing a lawful search warrant.

Let me give you an example . Let's say I had reasonable suspicion enough that a person with a restraining order against them had firearms and had arranged with a friend to help obtain them. I went to the judge to get a search warrant. The search warrant will only be for items related to the crime- so I would put firearms, ammunition, firearms accessories and any form of paper or electronic document to communication related to possessing or obtaining firearms.

Now I serve this warrant and since the judge signed off on electronic correspondence related to obtaining a firearm I examine the persons electronic devices. In the course of examining his computer I find images that appear to be child pornagraphy. I immediately halt the search of that device, secure it so that he can't tamper with it, and go to the judge asking for a new warrant to search for child porn.

That's pretty much where we are with this.

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4. I don't think this is going to produce anything and it does not convince me to vote for A sexual assaulter who is a fraud. BTW, already voted but I am a never Trumper, those are the one who believe everything FOX says.

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Star Member uponit7771 (36,008 posts)
12. Oh ****ing wow !!! So they've had this shit and decided to say something about it 11

... days before an election?!!

No wonder some winger pols are screaming at Comey !!!

They don't want a dem head of the FBI to do something similar!!

Comey has ****ed up, he's politicized the FBI...

**** COMEY !!!

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16. No they have not had this for months.

She swore under oath but since they started investigating Weiner they found a new device (shared by her and Weiner). So her oath was not true. This is a new device that the FBI was unaware of and she had said did not exist.

She lied to the FBI in a criminal investigation.

1) False Statement to FBI
2) Obstruction
3) Violations of information act concerning sensitive information
4) (once they find evidence of e-mails destroyed or changed) Destruction of evidence.

Who knows what other crimes are in there...

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22. WTF?! OK, so now he has a non falsifiable ****in lie!?!? WOW dude !! Something comes out that indicates Comey KNEW of the device and his ass is grass and Obama should be the lawn mower!!!

Also

Thank you for the clarification, sounds like there's already some sophistry int the telling of this account

You idiots just don't listen, do you.

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15. The FBI has turned into a partisan organization

They are not to be trusted. I wouldn't give them anything unless via court order.

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27. Even if she agrees…

…the FBI will surely say that there are so many, they can't possibly examine them all until, oh, 11/9. In the meantime, scandal! Scandal! Scandal!!!

650,000 e-mails by a report. Yeah- this will take a while.

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28. I can see how that might be a strategy.

I'm not sure I'd trust an agreement that nothing be made public.

If it were me personally, I wouldn't give the FBI permission for anything. Just on principle. Fourth Amendment and all.

I'd be more likely to make them get a subpoena. And appeal anything and everything possible.

Yes, fight it until the last possible moment... which happens to be in 9 days...

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In the meantime, James O'Keefe has stated that he has a tape of HilLIARy using the 'n-word' on a female African-American staffer of her campaign . . . If that proves true (and he's not been wrong yet), the Trump train will flatten the Clintons.  Dems down the ticket will be forced to disavow her.
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In the meantime, James O'Keefe has stated that he has a tape of HilLIARy using the 'n-word' on a female African-American staffer of her campaign . . . If that proves true (and he's not been wrong yet), the Trump train will flatten the Clintons.  Dems down the ticket will be forced to disavow her.

If true, think of all the blacks around the country who have already voted early for Clinton--their only recourse would be rage.
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If true, think of all the blacks around the country who have already voted early for Clinton--their only recourse would be rage.

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Think about that one for a moment.

All the e-mails. In their original form.

I have, quite a few times. And I get a sh@# eating grin on my face every time.
Question is: how will "they" (I dunno, I just say it like everyone else) suppress the truly damaging stuff.

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She lied to the FBI in a criminal investigation.

I'm not so sure on that one.
Of all the underhanded BS, lying and obstruction, I think this one was a mistake.
And I mean, a mistake as in: she actually DID forget about this one.
Otherwise, it would be at the bottom of the Potomac right now in 1000 pieces.
I can imagine when this came up, the blood ran out of her head... you know that feeling.

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I'm not so sure on that one.
Of all the underhanded BS, lying and obstruction, I think this one was a mistake.
And I mean, a mistake as in: she actually DID forget about this one.
Otherwise, it would be at the bottom of the Potomac right now in 1000 pieces.
I can imagine when this came up, the blood ran out of her head... you know that feeling.

She swore under oath she had no e-mails on any other device and was not keeping any e-mails or documents from the State Department.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/10/29/huma-abedin-swore-under-oath-she-gave-up-all-the-devices-containing-state-department-emails.html

So.... lied. I am thinking she had a back up just to make sure if shit started going wrong she had the upper hand on the Clintons.

We'll see what the FBI finds.
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In the meantime, James O'Keefe has stated that he has a tape of HilLIARy using the 'n-word' on a female African-American staffer of her campaign . . . If that proves true (and he's not been wrong yet), the Trump train will flatten the Clintons.  Dems down the ticket will be forced to disavow her.

LOL - I was just making mention of that on FB..

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She swore under oath she had no e-mails on any other device and was not keeping any e-mails or documents from the State Department.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/10/29/huma-abedin-swore-under-oath-she-gave-up-all-the-devices-containing-state-department-emails.html

So.... lied. I am thinking she had a back up just to make sure if shit started going wrong she had the upper hand on the Clintons.

We'll see what the FBI finds.

If this is how it turns out, that would be rich.
I just can't imagine her not having destroyed that data if she hadn't forgotten about it. Who would be that stupid?
Of course, we are talking about criminals here. They aren't known for being the sharpest knives in the set.

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It would be a hoot if it turns out she was backing up the entire server onto the laptop to make printing crap out for Her Thighness a bit easier.. Then forgot about it between the 1st part of the Email scandal, Hillary's campaign, and trouble with Carlos Danger. It could explain the forlorn Plane picture with HRC glowering at her. - At that moment,she remembered what she forgot about - and realized she done screwn the campaign.

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Wasn't there a laptop missing even before the ahem weiner stuff came out?   :rotf:


Could the missing laptop have been located in possession of humaweiner?




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She swore under oath she had no e-mails on any other device and was not keeping any e-mails or documents from the State Department.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/10/29/huma-abedin-swore-under-oath-she-gave-up-all-the-devices-containing-state-department-emails.html

So.... lied. I am thinking she had a back up just to make sure if shit started going wrong she had the upper hand on the Clintons.

We'll see what the FBI finds.

I think you're dead on, Dutch.  A 'life insurance policy,' of sorts.
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It would be a hoot if it turns out she was backing up the entire server onto the laptop to make printing crap out for Her Thighness a bit easier.. Then forgot about it between the 1st part of the Email scandal, Hillary's campaign, and trouble with Carlos Danger. It could explain the forlorn Plane picture with HRC glowering at her. - At that moment,she remembered what she forgot about - and realized she done screwn the campaign.

And wondering if she should have pre-planned her funeral arrangements.
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Best Move: Abedin Should Give FBI Permission to Search Her Email Immediately.

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I'm sure that will happen, right along with the Clinton Foundation turning over all the money it received to help Haiti to the UN.
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And just think, last month when Comey said the FBI wasn't going to forward charges he was the DUmmies new prince.  Now with this issue he is the devil himself.  How quick they turn on each other.
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My hope is that this turns out to be some or all of the e-mails that were "Bleach Bitted" after being subpoena.

I really want to know what they considered so damaging that they had to go to that extreme.  :censored:
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My hope is that this turns out to be some or all of the e-mails that were "Bleach Bitted" after being subpoena.

I really want to know what they considered so damaging that they had to go to that extreme.  :censored:

My God I hope that ends up being the case. I don't know how they would manage to spin out of that one. Damning proof that she lied to the FBI AND destroyed it on purpose. I mean, we all know it already... 
I can hear it now" I lied and scrubbed the info after I hit my head, I had a concussion and wasn't thinking clearly.. I don't recall. WHERE are Trumps tax returns?"

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My God I hope that ends up being the case. I don't know how they would manage to spin out of that one. Damning proof that she lied to the FBI AND destroyed it on purpose. I mean, we all know it already... 
I can hear it now" I lied and scrubbed the info after I hit my head, I had a concussion and wasn't thinking clearly.. I don't recall. WHERE are Trumps tax returns?"

Hey don't forget the Russians.  Some dim pols are already trying to blame them for this one.  Man, it's hilarious.
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Hey don't forget the Russians.  Some dim pols are already trying to blame them for this one.  Man, it's hilarious.
maybe not  so far from the truth if you consider that Carlos Danger could be a secret russian agent planted years ago to muddle up our 2016 election process...
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My God I hope that ends up being the case. I don't know how they would manage to spin out of that one. Damning proof that she lied to the FBI AND destroyed it on purpose. I mean, we all know it already... 
I can hear it now" I lied and scrubbed the info after I hit my head, I had a concussion and wasn't thinking clearly.. I don't recall. WHERE are Trumps tax returns?"

Damn near impossible to claim no intent. One thing that would put a smile on my face would be to rescind the immunity, arrest and convict those smug jerks that maintained the server.  It would wipe that arrogant smile right off their mugs.
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Damn near impossible to claim no intent. One thing that would put a smile on my face would be to rescind the immunity, arrest and convict those smug jerks that maintained the server.  It would wipe that arrogant smile right off their mugs.

ESPECIALLY if said contractors advertised some sort of security clearance claim.
On the point where they were ordered to secure erase the data after the controversy surfaced, then executed the orders, they should have been immediately arrested.  This is not some minor offense an claiming ignorance has never been a valid defense in the legal system I live under.
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