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poll: was it a mistake?
« on: October 18, 2016, 07:53:43 PM »
With about twenty days until what's likely to be an exciting, convulsive, tumultuous evening, and with the incessant releases of yet more before-unknown information about the Democrat nominee for president, Messalina Agrippina, some seem to be having second thoughts, buyer's remorse.

Maybe it would've been better had the nominee been the other guy, the old guy.

I myself don't think so; I still think the Democrats, liberals, and primitives selected the best possible candidate.  The choices weren't that great, two piss-poor possibilities, but still the best of the bad was chosen.

There's no guarantee that Methuselah would prove to be more honest, more ethical, more principled, than Messalina Agrippina.  In fact, I suspect he could've been shown to be ten times as craven, corrupt, loathesome, as the eventual candidate.

It just seems she's worse than him--but that's because she and her background and practices have been under intense scrutiny for circa thirty years, while nobody paid much attention to the old sourassed sourpuss until this year.  Pretty much all that one needs to know about her, is already known; hardly anything's known about the old grouch.

And there might be some heretofore unknown monstrosities in his character and background that make him far worst, far more vile, than her.  We just don't know.

So always best to go with the one that one knows best.

And then there's the supporters of the two candidates; it's important for the safety of the Republic and the Constitution that certain groups of people never attain political power, and that includes the Bernie bullies, the gimme crowd.  People who are interested only in taking and not in giving back, need kept out of any decision-making politics and government.

America under the heels of the Messalina Agrippina-loving Wills, the William769 primitive, would be abominable, but it would be intolerable under the likes of the Methuselah-loving WillyT primitive.

One might say, "well, you're voting for the (R) candidate anyway; what do you care?"

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Re: poll: was it a mistake?
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2016, 08:26:07 PM »
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Re: poll: was it a mistake?
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2016, 08:32:33 PM »
As it played out, yes, but by the time it was clear that the GOP candidate would be either Trump or Cruz - either one of which Bernie would have had a reasonable chance of beating in the general election - it was too late to win the Democrat primary process for him.  I would add that Cruz and Trump are probably the ONLY two candidates who survived the first half of the primaries that I think Bernie could have beaten.
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Re: poll: was it a mistake?
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2016, 09:36:39 PM »
Not a mistake.  She beat Bernie in all the card flips and dice rolls to win the nomination. 
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Re: poll: was it a mistake?
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2016, 09:51:08 PM »
No mistake, they did it on purpose.
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Re: poll: was it a mistake?
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2016, 10:06:10 PM »
As it played out, yes, but by the time it was clear that the GOP candidate would be either Trump or Cruz - either one of which Bernie would have had a reasonable chance of beating in the general election - it was too late to win the Democrat primary process for him.  I would add that Cruz and Trump are probably the ONLY two candidates who survived the first half of the primaries that I think Bernie could have beaten.

I think Trump or Cruz would beat Bernie like a rented mule.
The only reason HELLary is doing as good as she is because of the "vagina" vote, just like Obarry with the "black" vote.
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Re: poll: was it a mistake?
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2016, 04:01:38 AM »
I think Trump or Cruz would beat Bernie like a rented mule.
The only reason HELLary is doing as good as she is because of the "vagina" vote, just like Obarry with the "black" vote.

I've met people who are voting for her only because of that. :banghead: :thatsright:
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Re: poll: was it a mistake?
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2016, 04:40:13 AM »
I think Trump or Cruz would beat Bernie like a rented mule.
The only reason HELLary is doing as good as she is because of the "vagina" vote, just like Obarry with the "black" vote.

Cruz absolutely would have stomped them both. Trump couldn't beat Micky Mouse because he is a full blown idiot.

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Re: poll: was it a mistake?
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2016, 05:25:16 AM »
Not a mistake.  She beat Bernie in all the card flips and dice rolls to win the nomination.

And it's a very good thing she did, although one wishes she would've crushed, humiliated, them more than she did.

When this Democrat spat first got underway, I was neutral, utterly neutral; being Republican, I had my own arenas of interest, and was too busy to worry about what the other side was doing.

But then I watched, with considerable appalment, the way the Bernie bullies acted on Skins's island and almost took it over; there were some real assholes, some real sons-of-bitches. some real losers, in that crowd.

The primitives supporting Messalina Agrippina were hardly any paragons of quality of character--ha ha--but they were at least marginally a better sort of person than the Bernie bullies.

Much to my disappointment, I learned that after the primaries, when I'd hoped to focus on, torment, ridicule, mock, disparage, the supporters of Messalina Agrippina, the Bernie bullies although considerably crippled, still lived. 

And for the safety of the Republic and the Constitution, it was vitally important that the gimme crowd be crushed underfoot, driven out of existence.

So during this election, I haven't been able to vent any spleen at all on the main adversary, the primitives supporting the successful Democrat candidate.
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Re: poll: was it a mistake?
« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2016, 06:47:11 AM »
Bernie would have wildly enthused the Millenials and and center-left, and gotten a tremendous rock-star turnout, which is going to be Hitlery's one big weak point despite having nearly all the press and Hollywood donors in her corner.  They'd still be in Bernie's corner, except for the Wall Street donors.  Cruz would be doing much better with the donors, but wouldn't be making enough greater headway with the middle to make up for the enthusiasm of the Bernouts.

The concept of self-reliance and individual responsibility in this country seems to have gone the way of outhouses and three-mile-walks-in-the-snow-to-school-uphill-both-ways.  I suppose that's what comes of successive generations born and raised in peace and prosperity who grow up being accustomed to someone else taking care of their every need, and they look to the government when their needs outgrow their parents' capabilities.  There are a lot of great people in those generations, but it looks more and more like they are outnumbered by the dead weight.
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Re: poll: was it a mistake?
« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2016, 07:21:02 AM »
I don`t see where they had a choice,the whole process from the DNC was as corrupt as the person nominated.

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Re: poll: was it a mistake?
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2016, 07:45:41 AM »
Actually for the Dems, this will turn out to not work out so well.

There's a whole bunch of bern outs who have decided they won't vote for billary at all. There's a sizable chunk of them who will, but they'll hold their nose doing it. When she turns out to be the "corporate whore" they all consider her to be, they will all turn on her, which will upset the billary Dems to no end.

The bern outs are wasting their time if they think their party elites are going to allow their party to be overtaken by a bunch of kooks that are even more Marxist than they. They either need to start going Green Party or form their own. If billary wins, after 4 years of her, if the bern out types haven't figured out they're not wanted and to stop voting Dem, then they really got no one to blame but themselves. The Wikileaks emails have already revealed it to them that they don't stand a chance with the Dems, but will they learn from it?

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Re: poll: was it a mistake?
« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2016, 10:56:06 AM »
Actually for the Dems, this will turn out to not work out so well.

There's a whole bunch of bern outs who have decided they won't vote for billary at all. There's a sizable chunk of them who will, but they'll hold their nose doing it. When she turns out to be the "corporate whore" they all consider her to be, they will all turn on her, which will upset the billary Dems to no end.

The bern outs are wasting their time if they think their party elites are going to allow their party to be overtaken by a bunch of kooks that are even more Marxist than they. They either need to start going Green Party or form their own. If billary wins, after 4 years of her, if the bern out types haven't figured out they're not wanted and to stop voting Dem, then they really got no one to blame but themselves. The Wikileaks emails have already revealed it to them that they don't stand a chance with the Dems, but will they learn from it?

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Yeah, this is why I say that turnout means much more than opinion polls in the election, and that it is her Achilles heel.  Hillary has very little active support except for vagina voters and corporate whores, most of the rest of the Dems that vote for her will only do so to vote against Trump.  Admittedly I live in Red State Flyoverville, but there are a lot of highly-motivated Trump voters around here.  Most of the typically-Dem voters in my extended circle of family and friends can't stand either one of them and most plan on either staying home or voting third party.
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Re: poll: was it a mistake?
« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2016, 05:22:45 PM »
As it played out, yes, but by the time it was clear that the GOP candidate would be either Trump or Cruz - either one of which Bernie would have had a reasonable chance of beating in the general election - it was too late to win the Democrat primary process for him.  I would add that Cruz and Trump are probably the ONLY two candidates who survived the first half of the primaries that I think Bernie could have beaten.

Possibly but having one of the others (excluding Walker, Perry, and Paul) win would have just made the country worse.
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Re: poll: was it a mistake?
« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2016, 03:26:19 PM »
Possibly but having one of the others (excluding Walker, Perry, and Paul) win would have just made the country worse.

Could be, it's impossible to say since none of them got far enough to have to really start defining their policies in great detail, beyond the sweeping vision stage.
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